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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Can't wait for the end of next year when you're all crying I'm not owned while I ride a jetski made out of plastic Australian dollars into the sunset.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Typos fixed.

Meanwhile.



Auspol currently thinks ALP Megaswing.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Morrison unaware he’s that guy who was technically German Chancellor after Hitler died.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

JBP posted:

Can't wait for the end of next year when you're all crying I'm not owned while I ride a jetski made out of plastic Australian dollars into the sunset.


JBP posted:

This doesn't mean anything unless you are forced to sell. Just loving ride it out.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

snoremac posted:

Morrison unaware he’s that guy who was technically German Chancellor after Hitler died.

Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHgS1P7Oadw

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!
Im still sitting on 50% equity. But be hosed if I actually live in a million dollar home - its sane value is basically what I paid for it - even arguably less.

And busts/slowdowns/doldrums are a thing. Yeah it may even go back to what or paid for it or less. GOOD. But sadly it will one day go nuts again because gently caress learning from history

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/abcmelbourne/status/1069825719050485760

EDIT: A bunch of seats are being called this afternoon too.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Lid posted:

Fertiliser requires the abuse of cows, there is no ethical consumption under ethical consumption.

compost can be created with involving cows or any other mammal, manure is a useful nitrogen source but by no means the only one.

however, plants feel pain and communicate making them sentient by the common definition. to exist is to cause pain for others. embrace the void.

Ruptured Yakety Sax
Jun 8, 2012

ARE YOU AN ANGEL, BIRD??

Doctor Spaceman posted:

EDIT: A bunch of seats are being called this afternoon too.

Any word on the legislative council?


Also, hypothetically, if you finish being on Newstart within a fortnightly reporting period, would you still need to report your earnings for the full fortnight or only for the days you remained on Newstart?

Debt collection is after me for 80 bucks (they say I was working full time for the final three days of my last reporting period and so was not entitled to those 3 days of newstart). But it seems to me going by their BS that they owe me money; I reported the hours that I worked for those three days and they were subtracted from my final payment. If those three days don't count then those hours worked don't count, and they owe me a hundred bucks.

The 2 and a half hours spent on the phone today was not time well spent

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069836958191349761?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837161053077505?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837303319654401?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837422454747136?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837519724789760?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837644123664384?s=21

https://twitter.com/ghostwhovotes/status/1069837758024245248?s=21

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

thatbastardken posted:

however, plants feel pain and communicate making them sentient by the common definition.

plant sentience is only just beginning to be explored in proper depth and still has a hard question mark

naeka
Sep 1, 2008

Ruptured Yakety Sax posted:


Also, hypothetically, if you finish being on Newstart within a fortnightly reporting period, would you still need to report your earnings for the full fortnight or only for the days you remained on Newstart?

Debt collection is after me for 80 bucks (they say I was working full time for the final three days of my last reporting period and so was not entitled to those 3 days of newstart). But it seems to me going by their BS that they owe me money; I reported the hours that I worked for those three days and they were subtracted from my final payment. If those three days don't count then those hours worked don't count, and they owe me a hundred bucks.

The 2 and a half hours spent on the phone today was not time well spent

Your earnings should be measured against the number of entitlement period days on newstart, normally 14 (ending business day before you get paid) but if you lose qualification mid way through an entitlement period then the number of days is shortened (and the pay rate too obv) so your payment should only reflect until you got cancelled and your earnings don't matter beyond that so in your case you would be assessed as 11 days instead of 14 for that entitlement period. Something that can happen in these situations is the payment goes through before the cancellation so you get paid the 3 days before they cancelled you off so maybe that could have done it.

You can't really get much help for this from outside since it has to be fixed internally by DHS and the amount of info needed to confirm it all externally would be pretty intrusive so your best bet is to request a review and provide all your payslips and stuff then if that doesn't work and you feel it is still wrong then go to the AAT (they want internal reviews done first these days i believe but you can try and contact them first).

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.
It’s a shame we’ll probably never get any follow up to those “I bought 30 houses by the time I was 25 (and am carrying a debt load of $10 million)” articles

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

If auspolers want to mastodon we have an @auspol.cafe now. Pimp pimp.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

fiery_valkyrie posted:

It’s a shame we’ll probably never get any follow up to those “I bought 30 houses by the time I was 25 (and am carrying a debt load of $10 million)” articles

Yes we will, in the obituaries section.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Jonah Galtberg posted:

plant sentience is only just beginning to be explored in proper depth and still has a hard question mark

sure, but it makes me feel better about not being vegan so I'm rolling with it.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ruptured Yakety Sax posted:

Any word on the legislative council?
Ongoing, as are some other notable lower house seats.

Hawthorn's finally been called for Labor.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

ewe2 posted:

If auspolers want to mastodon we have an @auspol.cafe now. Pimp pimp.

What is mastodon? Tell me more!

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Mama Gaia give me plant nbn

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Good twitter thread on the geographical issues with high speed rail out of Sydney (there are hills in the way)

https://twitter.com/MatthewBevan/status/1069721065138450432

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

ewe2 posted:

If auspolers want to mastodon we have an @auspol.cafe now. Pimp pimp.

yeah, do this https://auspol.cafe

Anidav posted:

What is mastodon? Tell me more!

mastodon is a platform similar to twitter, but instead of being owned and operated by a single entity, it is a federation of independent servers (or instances) run by everyday people. it's basically socialised social media.

you can follow and talk to people across the federation of instances just as if it was one platform. having lots of smaller, interest/community based servers help spread the load of administration and moderation tasks. it also helps prevent things like ads (because it has no need to turn a profit) and nazis (each instance has its own code of conduct, and if there is a nazi server, it can be blocked wholly from appearing on your instance by the admins).

a lot of people are flocking to it because of the tumblr changes announced today, but its also a good place to post about auspol and stuff. i hope more people embrace it

you can also see more about what mastodon is generally here: https://joinmastodon.org/

bell jar fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Dec 4, 2018

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Ongoing, as are some other notable lower house seats.

Hawthorn's finally been called for Labor.

:rip: that Liberal MP who had that seat who might have been a challenger for the Liberal leadership position

Ruptured Yakety Sax
Jun 8, 2012

ARE YOU AN ANGEL, BIRD??

Great, thanks. That squares with what I had thought to be true, but the newstart (maybe DHS?) people I spoke to today clearly had no idea what I was talking about. At one point, having consulting a colleague, the person on the phone ventured that maybe I shouldn't have received any money at all for that final week.

They've passed it up the chain and said they'll get back to me in a couple of days (who knows what will finally happen). I'm coming out of this one ahead, or a least having broken even, and I don't care if it takes a hundred years to get there.


Doctor Spaceman posted:

Hawthorn's finally been called for Labor.

Haha grouse

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/ryansm_/status/1069853499603660806

Rippon's margin was 31 votes.

naeka
Sep 1, 2008

Ruptured Yakety Sax posted:

Great, thanks. That squares with what I had thought to be true, but the newstart (maybe DHS?) people I spoke to today clearly had no idea what I was talking about. At one point, having consulting a colleague, the person on the phone ventured that maybe I shouldn't have received any money at all for that final week.

They've passed it up the chain and said they'll get back to me in a couple of days (who knows what will finally happen). I'm coming out of this one ahead, or a least having broken even, and I don't care if it takes a hundred years to get there.


Haha grouse

Sounds like it has gone to a senior prac or something so yea when they get back to you if they can't sort it then ask for an internal review and then AAT. If you really wanna know how it all works in depth search for Entitlement Periods on guide to social security law and prepare to hate life and you'll understand why everyone gets so confused with this stuff.

naeka fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Dec 4, 2018

hidys
May 6, 2015

"Give the boys a bit of a rev up."

That'll be a recount.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Ownage

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Wait were people posting mean things about David Attenborough?

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

gay picnic defence posted:

Wait were people posting mean things about David Attenborough?

just the usual au*ism thing where people can't handle the idea of someone being flawed instead of the nice simple to understand categories of Good or Bad

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

:munch:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Doctor Spaceman posted:

Good twitter thread on the geographical issues with high speed rail out of Sydney (there are hills in the way)

https://twitter.com/MatthewBevan/status/1069721065138450432

Obviously the solution to this is to build high speed rail between Adelaide and Melbourne, where the geographic problems barely exist, then gut Sydney of useful things and redistribute them between us

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Did Labor water down this spy legislation enough or nah

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

hidys posted:

That'll be a recount.

And the rest, heaps of seats are being rechecked.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again


A very user friendly social network. So user friendly you can create an account but then it fails to log you into it.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Anidav posted:



A very user friendly social network. So user friendly you can create an account but then it fails to log you into it.

It's giving you the real news corp welcome

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

JBP posted:

Did Labor water down this spy legislation enough or nah

the fun thing about these types of encryption laws is that no matter how much you water them down or restrict when the powers may be used you’re still putting a backdoor in that can be used by criminals at any time

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Love my genocidal ideology to be seen as a simple character flaw because I speak softly over footage of cute animals.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Jonah Galtberg posted:

the fun thing about these types of encryption laws is that no matter how much you water them down or restrict when the powers may be used you’re still putting a backdoor in that can be used by criminals at any time

That's what I mean did they get rid of that or is it in there? I don't know how encryption works.

E: asking mainly because it seems onerous to build in a back door for every system and make companies do it?

JBP fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Dec 4, 2018

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Love my genocidal ideology to be seen as a simple character flaw because I speak softly over footage of cute animals.

:shuckyes:

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hidys
May 6, 2015

"Give the boys a bit of a rev up."

ewe2 posted:

And the rest, heaps of seats are being rechecked.

On that margin it is likely the only seat that will receive a full blooded recount.

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