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a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Private Cumshoe posted:

I am glad all the nurses are quitting because of covid right as boomers need them most, good job on the reagan revolution you loving morons

I'm a nurse and I humiliated a patient in front of a couple of coworkers yesterday, she has covid and asked for ivermectin, because her boss took it and he didn't die from covid and he swears by it.

Every time she tried to justify it i shot her down hard. It felt good and now I will never stop embarrassing these poo poo heads. I've got no more deferential smiles for their stupid loving ideas.

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Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

RV/campers are typically their own ticket for a spot, before you buy actual event tickets. I think Bonnaroo was around $500 when I went last over a decade ago for an RV/camper slot. Couldn't even bring a pop-up trailer in the regular campsite. Then event wristbands are $250-400+ for each person.

well i guess it's the tent for you then, poverty man

just kidding but go to smaller events generally the tickets are under 100 dollars and you can bring a nice tent. you should probably bring some of your own drugs at least, too

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I sleep in my car at festivals. When I had a Subaru Baja, I'd just kick down the bed passthrough and let my legs hang out while the rest of me was comfortably laying inside.

At this point, I wouldn't festival without my Outback. But I don't need to go to a superspreader event.

Oh, and lots of my own weed. Festival drugs are too hit/miss.

sofokles
Feb 7, 2004

Fuck this
Generalization of entire generations is meh

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I think I was 24 when I realized I was too old for music festivals.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

kntfkr posted:

I think I was 24 when I realized I was too old for music festivals.

You realized it young. I was 32ish when I gave up the idea of going to them again. I mean, I still want to go to once on occasion, but I'm getting too old and crotchety and my temper spins up from idle faster than a street bike.

Memphis in May '14 or '15 was my last "festival" and that was not a camping allowed situation. Because camping on the riverfront in Memphis is an obviously bad idea.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Who What Now posted:

Wasn't the original Woodstock just wall to wall sexual assaults?

94 had multiple instances of rape and vandalism, so the tradition was still alive

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
my old 33 year old body just can't take the all day drugs and lack of sleep quite the same way anymore

either way haven't been to a festival in what feels like at least five years if not more. I'd like to, but with work first and covid second it's p hosed right now

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
Mine was Governors Ball in '09 or '010 I think. A lot of my favorite bands and musicians played and they all sucked cuz they didn't wanna be there. Fiona Apple & Built to Spill were there and honestly the best set was by Duck Sauce. :( That epiphany and I just hate being gouged and festivals are all about gouging.

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

any attention that article gets - negative or positive - is a net gain for that author. it's all reaction-based.

with one exception - a dead gay comedy forum, where no reaction of any kind matters.

to that I say - TAKE THAT, boomer

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Mokelumne Trekka posted:

any attention that article gets - negative or positive - is a net gain for that author. it's all reaction-based.

with one exception - a dead gay comedy forum, where no reaction of any kind matters.

to that I say - TAKE THAT, boomer

basically a black hole of takes

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

kntfkr posted:

Mine was Governors Ball in '09 or '010 I think. A lot of my favorite bands and musicians played and they all sucked cuz they didn't wanna be there. Fiona Apple & Built to Spill were there and honestly the best set was by Duck Sauce. :( That epiphany and I just hate being gouged and festivals are all about gouging.

I should've had my epiphany at Bonnaroo '07, but I ended up having a lot of fun. Worst thing that year was the Police, with Sting, not actual cops. Also the John Paul Jones set was basically 45 minutes of Dazed and Confused, so that was worthy of skipping too. I was probably the youngest person at the Junior Brown show. Flaming Lips owned though, and I checked a lot of bands off my list both years I went to Bonnaroo. I went with a goon group both years (late arrival in '09), and had a great time.

Now I just want to go see Gregory Alan Isakov at Red Rocks with the Colorado Symphony. I'm getting old and sinking into folk.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Play posted:

Seems like a good thing that millennials aren't big on hierarchy like their boot-licking parents.

Also the author did that classic thing where he intimates that everyone in the generation were involved in antiwar, free love, civil rights, radical action protesting when the reality is the majority of them were the same authority-loving, antihippie maggots that they are today.

Arguing with antivax protestors in London has taught me that the hippies were never progressive, just contrarian. The 60y old kids aren't all right, gently caress em :guillotine:

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

a mysterious cloak posted:

I'm a nurse and I humiliated a patient in front of a couple of coworkers yesterday, she has covid and asked for ivermectin, because her boss took it and he didn't die from covid and he swears by it.

Every time she tried to justify it i shot her down hard. It felt good and now I will never stop embarrassing these poo poo heads. I've got no more deferential smiles for their stupid loving ideas.

You won't be laughing when that daft old bag shits herself and gives you worms.
jk good on you


Play posted:

my old 33 year old body just can't take the all day drugs and lack of sleep quite the same way anymore

either way haven't been to a festival in what feels like at least five years if not more. I'd like to, but with work first and covid second it's p hosed right now

Both this and I can't be bothered to talk to a field of people. That's why I've taken up survivalist prepping!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
We should normalise elder abuse. Just go to retirement homes and beat the poo poo out of your parents and grandparents and anyone who defends em. Give em all covid too. gently caress em.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Ghost Leviathan posted:

We should normalise elder abuse. Just go to retirement homes and beat the poo poo out of your parents and grandparents and anyone who defends em. Give em all covid too. gently caress em.

Retirement homes can be a place of peace and love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q0cp4b9pvg

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Strategic Tea posted:

Arguing with antivax protestors in London has taught me that the hippies were never progressive, just contrarian. The 60y old kids aren't all right, gently caress em :guillotine:

Second wave feminism basically came out of how rapey and creepy hippie men were.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Woolie Wool posted:

Second wave feminism basically came out of how rapey and creepy hippie men were.

Naw it started in being a backlash to the 50's housewife stuff, though contending with that later period obviously eventually became a big thing.

That period being the extremely ugly places where the Sexual Revolution outpaced or didn't link up the second wave at all, so Mad Men meets hippies equals glugggrgrgrggg

Blastedhellscape
Jan 1, 2008

Barudak posted:

Hippies were like, sub 3% of the generation and from the moment they existed to this day boomers loving hated them.

The top song of 1965 was ballad of the green berets, although to be fair to boomers that was firmly back in the "billboards numbers are all made up" pre scan era.

Yep. My parents are old hippies and whenever they complain about how everyone their age seem to be shitheads now ("Where have all the hippies gone? Why didn't we change the world like we were tying to?") I point out that they've told me a million stories from the 60's and 70's that involved dealing with regressive shitheads that were around their own age. The vast majority of boomer-aged people were hippy bashers, not hippies.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Blastedhellscape posted:

Yep. My parents are old hippies and whenever they complain about how everyone their age seem to be shitheads now ("Where have all the hippies gone? Why didn't we change the world like we were tying to?") I point out that they've told me a million stories from the 60's and 70's that involved dealing with regressive shitheads that were around their own age. The vast majority of boomer-aged people were hippy bashers, not hippies.

And a portion of the hippies were just in it for the hedonism and rebel-without-a-cause poo poo, not for anything else. Which actually tracks pretty well with the dumb tendency to have angry reactions to stuff like vaccines.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Blastedhellscape posted:

Yep. My parents are old hippies and whenever they complain about how everyone their age seem to be shitheads now ("Where have all the hippies gone? Why didn't we change the world like we were tying to?") I point out that they've told me a million stories from the 60's and 70's that involved dealing with regressive shitheads that were around their own age. The vast majority of boomer-aged people were hippy bashers, not hippies.

Most young people and college students of the 50s and 60s were patriotic, respected their parents, went to church and mocked hippies- if only because they felt socially obligated to in order to secure and safe and secure future/career for themselves. When you're a slave, the only point of pride lies in arguing over who has the better master. But a lot just didn't realize it at the time. Later they would look back and regret wasting their youth being such a square instead of living the carefree lifestyle that hollywood and the media would feature (and exaggerate) for the next several decades. It can be embarrassing to go through old photos and seeing how radically different your fashion was when you were 20, but it's even worse if you dressed as a 60 year-old at the age of 20.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

je1 healthcare posted:

Most young people and college students of the 50s and 60s were patriotic, respected their parents, went to church and mocked hippies- if only because they felt socially obligated to in order to secure and safe and secure future/career for themselves. When you're a slave, the only point of pride lies in arguing over who has the better master. But a lot just didn't realize it at the time. Later they would look back and regret wasting their youth being such a square instead of living the carefree lifestyle that hollywood and the media would feature (and exaggerate) for the next several decades. It can be embarrassing to go through old photos and seeing how radically different your fashion was when you were 20, but it's even worse if you dressed as a 60 year-old at the age of 20.

Please, 33 year old internet poster, give us more weird authoritative generational psychoanalysis

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
Nah, that's all I have.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Grape posted:

And a portion of the hippies were just in it for the hedonism and rebel-without-a-cause poo poo, not for anything else. Which actually tracks pretty well with the dumb tendency to have angry reactions to stuff like vaccines.

Pretty much every 60s hippie band has stories of having their gear stolen or having to limp through a performance because a band member got beat to poo poo in a fight with someone/a group of someones.

Hippie culture was absolutely chock full of assholes.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


All humans are poo poo except for me and those that I approve.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
This turdburgers little ratbrain has half latched onto something that is true, probably by accident. Namely that identity politics is used to shut down useful debate about actually important things.

mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

Strategic Tea posted:

Arguing with antivax protestors in London has taught me that the hippies were never progressive, just contrarian. The 60y old kids aren't all right, gently caress em :guillotine:

I was obsessed with counter culture in high school and read a lot of Hunter S Thompson books but as I enter my 30th year on this planet I have learned that like, 85% of the subversive ideologies that I embraced growing up didn't really benefit me or encourage positive, personal growth. I think you hit the nail on the head. Counter culture is less about progression and more about contrarianism. The idea that 'conservatism is the new counter culture!!1' I think is mostly correct, because conservatism isn't doing much good for the world lol

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I like to tell aging punks that conservatism is the new punk rock.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
We have Woodstocks all the time now. We just call them homeless encampments.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

mkvltra posted:

I was obsessed with counter culture in high school and read a lot of Hunter S Thompson books but as I enter my 30th year on this planet I have learned that like, 85% of the subversive ideologies that I embraced growing up didn't really benefit me or encourage positive, personal growth. I think you hit the nail on the head. Counter culture is less about progression and more about contrarianism. The idea that 'conservatism is the new counter culture!!1' I think is mostly correct, because conservatism isn't doing much good for the world lol

conservatism is counter culture in that it seeks to destroy culture and society

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

mkvltra posted:

I was obsessed with counter culture in high school and read a lot of Hunter S Thompson books but as I enter my 30th year on this planet I have learned that like, 85% of the subversive ideologies that I embraced growing up didn't really benefit me or encourage positive, personal growth. I think you hit the nail on the head. Counter culture is less about progression and more about contrarianism. The idea that 'conservatism is the new counter culture!!1' I think is mostly correct, because conservatism isn't doing much good for the world lol

I mean, youth counterculture is about "progression" insofar as it's a direct reaction to what you perceive as limiting your attempt to progress\stake a place in the world. Boomer youth culture was a blanket reaction to their parents' world, for better and worse. They made a, for the time, positive shift in the way we address race and gender, among other things, but they also reflexively bucked against the idea of the collective power that stuff like unions or a strong welfare state can provide- ironic given the talk about coming together- choosing libertarian hyper individualism as a gently caress you to moms and dads who trusted the government\science\status quo implicitly.

Hippies turning to gently caress you got mine yuppies in the 80s, then transitioning into confused and angry gently caress you got mine cruise ship hedonists in their final years, makes perfect sense in that light; we have trouble seeing the logic of their course because since we were kids we've been accepting their pr campaign and, more generally, have a cultural tendency to look for heroic groups that represent "us" and are destined to return reality to a more natural state (ie, as we would prefer it to be).

Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av
I think that boomers just couldn't shake the propaganda they were raised with in the Cold War about any and every form of collectivism, be it socialism or unions or just not being a selfish dick.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Powerful Katrinka posted:

I think that boomers just couldn't shake the propaganda they were raised with in the Cold War about any and every form of collectivism, be it socialism or unions or just not being a selfish dick.

They also came from post ww2 parents that trusted the state, trusted science, a concept of authority, etc, and something like 40% of the workforce belonged to unions. It wasn’t a left leaning nation by any stretch of the imagination, but it valued a sense of us over a sense of me. They also saw their parents who generally lived these values as extremely unhappy, repressed people that they didn’t want to be, so they rebelled against the entire way they lived, good and bad, which sorta shook out to being this kind of “why don’t we all, like, do our own thing and discover ourselves” mantra, which then as time went by became “why don’t you fend for yourself and keep your loving hands off of all this stuff I earned with my effort and unique contributions to society as an individual,” then, now in their dotage, “gently caress you, I’m god dreaming the universe into existence and I’m dying.”

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I love how when people talk about boomers they seem to be talking about mostly well off white people

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Weka posted:

I love how when people talk about boomers they seem to be talking about mostly well off white people

IE, the people who get to be in charge of everything.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Weka posted:

I love how when people talk about boomers they seem to be talking about mostly well off white people

Aw geez, Rick, I’m not really sure if we should be calling out elderly minorities as a comically vain, destructive hegemonic bloc.

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021

google minorities and tell me its not hosed up what happened to those guys…

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

I did the google thing and according to a website im not gonna name here IM ACTUALLY THE REAL MINORITY.

gently caress, this changes things

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
P sure I've seen plenty of nonwhite people complain their boomer relatives are often almost exactly the same kinda poo poo too.

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