thotsky posted:

lol, tears for the media class up in here

Randal posted:

When I checked out the dollop I gave up on it after it opened with five minutes of ads

terrorist ambulance posted:

Dave has started citing sources and went back and dropped in old cites for all his old dollop. That should tell you what he thinks about the legitimacy of the criticism

Trabisnikof posted:

Between Dave and some random non-fiction author, Dave’s the member of the media class.

Fsmhunk posted:

I honestly can't even imagine pretending to care about this.

Bust Rodd posted:

https://twitter.com/josh_levin/status/1165614546813427713?s=21

TLDR: It’s not just the one instance, there’s like an entire community of people on reddit who feel like The Dollop stole their content.

Uranium posted:

the real problem with the dollop is that the hosts laugh at their jokes more than i do

Gripweed posted:

Yeah Dave is an actual LA TV writer. When he plagiarizes an article written by some lady for The Topeka Times, he's not the scrappy underdog flouting the rules of the high-falutin' media class, he's stealing someone elses work for his own gain.


I kinda think "Dave is a work stealing rear end in a top hat" and "I don't care" are both acceptable takes to have on the topic. But "Dave is a work stealing rear end in a top hat and it's great, I love it, it's the best thing he could do" is the weird take.

Especially because the real problem with The Dollop is Garthe doing painfully unfunny five minute long riffs that stop the podcast dead.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Minor what a time to be alive energy

Slanderer posted:

https://twitter.com/daveanthony/status/1259992353651085313

thotsky posted:

That was never my take though; you and Bust Rodd were the ones going in hard on denouncing the podcast and moralizing about the evils of plagiarizing, all I said was that it is a good podcast. I'm not the dude upset on the behalf of some reddit dudes and a slate editor. It is funny to me that you care enough to backtrack to "not caring is fine" after nobody joined in on the pile-on tho.

Slanderer posted:

You have the same loathsome energy as sam pritchard

thotsky posted:

That was never my take though; you and Bust Rodd were the ones going in hard on denouncing the podcast and moralizing about the evils of plagiarizing, all I said was that it is a good podcast. I'm not the dude upset on the behalf of some reddit dudes and a slate editor. It is funny to me that you care enough to backtrack to "not caring is fine" after nobody joined in on the pile-on tho.

thotsky posted:

Even if not intended, having ones thoughts on the show reach the actual crew rather then go in Virgils spambox is pretty cool yeah. Hopefully someone linked them to all the follow up posts as they were less vitriolic. It's not like I had much in the way of actionable criticism, but it will be interesting to go back to the show in a while and see if they get out of the rut. I can't really stomach that right now though.

It's kind of amazing how The Dollop manages to keep it all going even with the same formula for so many episodes. You'd think it would have more of a noticeable drop in quality as Dave has to dig deeper for good stories, and as Gareth and the audience grows more jaded, but Dave puts the work in and Gareth has really stepped up on the funny bits rather than feigning shock and surprise as I'm sure many lesser hosts would have done. It's still really good.

thotsky posted:

Lol, they literally credit their sources in every episode and has done so forever. It's the original patreon jealousy case, perpetuated almost entirely by that one dude who was not satisfied with only being sourced in the episode description.

thotsky posted:

They removed one because some dude was threatening to sue, but not over plagiarization. It was libel.

They had the dollop sources page since like the very start, but it was not updated as often as the show. Dave talked about in some episode. Around the 100 episode mark they switched to having it in the podcast descriptions as well. For the last year or so they do shout-outs to researchers and sources as part of the audio as well. It's pretty above and beyond, and it's hilarious that the same people usually up in arms over fair use are so salty about The Dollop. It's clearly mostly jealousy.

thotsky posted:

Who gives a poo poo? So does Nintendo whenever anyone streams their games, or even reviews them without their permission. Defending copyright claims is hardly very woke or lefty.

edit: Go to bat for me on the clearly unlicensed use of my excellent posts by nefarious actors on the twitter platform and we can talk

thotsky posted:

lol, tears for the media class up in here

thotsky posted:

That was never my take though; you and Bust Rodd were the ones going in hard on denouncing the podcast and moralizing about the evils of plagiarizing, all I said was that it is a good podcast. I'm not the dude upset on the behalf of some reddit dudes and a slate editor. It is funny to me that you care enough to backtrack to "not caring is fine" after nobody joined in on the pile-on tho.

papa horny michael posted:

I like dave anthonys twitter but think their show is really bad. thanks

Phone posted:

this is demonstrably false

PostNouveau posted:

Nah, but I dig it. Good stuff

thotsky posted:

I don't see how you can get Gripweeds reading out of that though? All I'm saying is that The Dollop is good, and then responding to the outrage by stating that the plagiarization "scandal" is kinda bullshit and not really that noteworthy, because Dave makes a pretty decent effort. You've literally quoted me as saying "Who gives a poo poo?" and you're trying to make the point that not only do I give a poo poo, I'm invested in having Dave plagiarize. If that were the case, surely I would have been the one to bring the controversy up, maybe even made some statement saying Dave is wrong in trying to satisfy those who want more citations.

You're giving me way too much credit if you're thinking I baited that derail. It's on Butt Rodd. Anyway, it's good that we've found other things to all disagree on than the merits of Amber, Red Scare, or one-time (?) Chapo guests Angela Nagle and Contrapoints. Really opens up the thread.

OctoberCountry posted:

Phone posted:

First off, his name is Bust Rodd.

Secondly, no one cares dude.

slicing up eyeballs posted:

wheres virgil

Joementum posted:

Are there people arguing in the Chapo Trap House thread that you can't read a news article on your podcast and make jokes about it?

scary ghost dog posted:

the appeal of the dollop is not the rigorously researched historical facts

Zhulik posted:

when people irl ask me for a podcast recommendations i tell them to listen to the dollop just so i dont have to say cum town. ive never listened to even a single episode of it

Previa_fun posted:

To take another TrueAnon detour I've started listening from the beginning and holy poo poo Braces "Russian" accent in ep 7 had me laughing so hard. Brace owns.

Joementum posted:

Are there people arguing in the Chapo Trap House thread that you can't read a news article on your podcast and make jokes about it?

PostNouveau posted:

Chapo meticulously sources all of their Caleb Jacoby news.

Lambert posted:

Chapo is a crap tier podcast, a bunch of loudmouth Bernie stans spouting uninformed crap.

I don't think we should measure others by that standard.

Lambert posted:

Hillary won.