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Hey it's family book, not a solo book! (yet)
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One of the things that excites me about Champions is that Viv Vision is in it... Like, that is going to be the most hosed up child in superheroics who doesn't have an X-gene, honestly. I REALLY want things to work out with her, but she seems like out of all of those characters she's gonna be the first to go.
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Aug 15, 2016 03:46
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So Sam's gonna crush on her hard too?
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Aug 15, 2016 13:02
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twistedmentat posted:So Sam's gonna crush on her hard too? 
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Aug 15, 2016 13:17
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twistedmentat posted:So Sam's gonna crush on her hard too? As oddly fitting as that might be, I just want Viv to hook up with Scott so that the Summers and Pym family trees can finally become one.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:20
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SilverSupernova posted:As oddly fitting as that might be, I just want Viv to hook up with Scott so that the Summers and Pym family trees can finally become one. The world is not ready for this kind of family tree.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:07
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They're already kind of linked if you go Vision -> Scarlet Witch -> Magneto -> Lorna Dane -> Havok (I say kind of since that last link tends to come and go and Scarlet Witch isn't Magneto's kid anymore or something?)
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Aug 15, 2016 20:16
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Well, they wanted to use her in the movies, so no mutants allowed.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:17
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Endless Mike posted:They're already kind of linked if you go Vision -> Scarlet Witch -> Magneto -> Lorna Dane -> Havok And Lorna's only been Magneto's daughter for like a decade.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:22
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Waffleman_ posted:Well, they wanted to use her in the movies, so no mutants allowed. This is not how this works.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:28
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Endless Mike posted:They're already kind of linked if you go Vision -> Scarlet Witch -> Magneto -> Lorna Dane -> Havok You need to go Scarlet Witch ➡ Magda ➡ Magneto if you want to forestall any paternity nitpicking. Find a way to connect this to the Mystique/Nightcrawler and Apocalypse families if you want to shoot the moon, btw.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:00
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Squizzle posted:You need to go Scarlet Witch ➡ Magda ➡ Magneto if you want to forestall any paternity nitpicking. Apocalypse -> Styfe -> Cable Nightcrawler -> Nocturne -> Scarlet Witch
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Aug 15, 2016 21:10
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They should make a 6 degrees of Scott Summers mini-series as young Scott keeps running into people he's somewhat related to and he slowly goes insane as he realized just how hosed up the Summers family tree is. That said, in order to keep the story grounded, the series is told from Rockslide's point of view, who's tagging along because he thinks it's hilarious.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:19
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Has Young Scott met Cable? That seems like it would be fun. "Hi I'm your son from your future self's first dead wife who is a clone of your future self's second dead wife. Oh and she was sleeping with my alternate universe analog after he willed her back to life upon coming to this universe. Also he's Time Jesus or something?"
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Aug 15, 2016 21:24
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I caught up on All-New, All-Different Avengers. I like it overall, though I'm still mostly interested in it for the kids, so I guess Champions for me in a few months. I'll give the regular Avengers a shot too though.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:25
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Squizzle posted:You need to go Scarlet Witch ➡ Magda ➡ Magneto if you want to forestall any paternity nitpicking. Whenever this comes up, I'm surprised no one brings up Richards -- Kang -- En Sabbah Nur and Franklin -- Rachel Grey
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Aug 15, 2016 21:51
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Oh yeah, the Richards are all up in the Summers tree, too.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:53
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Endless Mike posted:Oh yeah, the Richards are all up in the Summers tree, too. Also, robots, Skrulls, and 4/5 Captains Marvel (if we take Wiccan and Hulkling as basically already married). Did Genis end up in any serious relationship with Epiphany? If so, you could shim Eternity onto the expanded Summers family tree.
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Aug 15, 2016 22:16
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Magneto's also in there from hooking up with whichever Cuckoo, who are clones of Emma Frost. Edit: Actually I guess that was Xorn.
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Aug 15, 2016 22:49
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Havok married Wasp in uncanny avengers, so...
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Aug 15, 2016 22:56
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Ferrule posted:Havok married Wasp in uncanny avengers, so... That's much cleaner.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:18
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SHIELD Doctor : I'm sorry Mr Alexander, but you have electric gonorrhea Sam: the noisy killer?? SilverSupernova posted:As oddly fitting as that might be, I just want Viv to hook up with Scott so that the Summers and Pym family trees can finally become one. OOh yea, this Scott hasn't made any terrible life choices yet as far as I know. I would not consider his briefly looking up with Laura as a mistake. What Scott needs to do is hook up with the Cukoos, all 3 of them, but at separate times.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:31
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Endless Mike posted:That's much cleaner. In a future timeline only they remember.
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Aug 16, 2016 00:20
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Still counts. That's like half the Summers family.
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Aug 16, 2016 00:44
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A bunch of Clan Akkaba got turned into vampires as part of the long-running sass match between Apocalypse and Dracula. Since vampirism is genetic or behaves like it is, the Apocalypse branch of the Summers tree connects to Dracula and everyone related to him—biologically, adoptively, vampirically, or maritally. Or any other way we've had relationships count here, so a robot created from the brain patterns of Dracula's grandson's clone from an alternate future, or w/e. Which means the family also includes an angel.
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Aug 16, 2016 01:02
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Also Wolfman.
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Aug 16, 2016 01:05
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A genealogist in the Marvel Universe: gently caress it, I quit.
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Aug 16, 2016 01:18
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Aphrodite posted:Also Wolfman. And Baron Blood, and through him, the Union Jack/Spitfire family. You could argue the original Human Torch enters the family through Spitfire, but  if you didn't already include him because a chronal duplicate of his body was used by Ultron to create the Vision. 
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Aug 16, 2016 01:22
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Squizzle posted:You could argue the original Human Torch enters the family through Spitfire, but Didn't they retcon that out already?
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Aug 16, 2016 01:43
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Rhyno posted:Didn't they retcon that out already? I have no idea. Through Summers brother Vulcan, the Shi'ar royal family joins the tree. Through Quicksilver, we get his daughter Luna, ex-wife Crystal, and the entire Inhuman royal line. Thus, AvX, War of Kings, and the upcoming Inhumans vs. X-men are all overblown spats within one extended family.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:09
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The chronal duplicate was the retcon. Unless the retconned that too
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Aug 16, 2016 02:48
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SynthOrange posted:The chronal duplicate was the retcon. Unless the retconned that too That's what I'm saying, I think they double retconned it.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:47
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Aaaagh you're crossing the timestreams
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Aug 16, 2016 02:49
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SynthOrange posted:Aaaagh you're crossing the timestreams Busiek did it first!
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Aug 16, 2016 02:52
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Jesus christ, this even a rabbit hole, it's a endless vortex swirling in space. I think i'll just keep track on who hosed who, and I'm pretty sure by connection, Logan and Tony have basically hosed a whole bunch of times.
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Aug 16, 2016 04:05
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When you have sex with someone, you're having sex with everyone else they've had sex yet, and there's a good chance of that including Wolverine or Iron Man, so maybe take a chance.
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Aug 16, 2016 04:22
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I remember there was a chart in Wizard back in the day that indicated that between Jen Walters, Hercules, Tony Stark, and Matt Murdock, most of Marvel's long-running superheroes are no more than a degree or two of romantic separation from one another, even if you don't take alternate universes into account.
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Aug 16, 2016 04:27
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It's way easier to make protagonists hook up with each other than to write an interesting love interest from scratch.
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Aug 16, 2016 04:36
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Waffleman_ posted:When you have sex with someone, you're having sex with everyone else they've had sex yet, and there's a good chance of that including Wolverine or Iron Man, so maybe take a chance. Wolverine is probably safer as he probably can't carry as many STDs as Tony.
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I'm the best at what I do: safe sex.
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