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Animal-Mother posted:Chris Rock never "punched down" and he's the one who put Seinfeld onto this idea that college students think jokes are serious political statements. I think Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Adam Sandler, Colin Quinn, Kevin James, David Spade, and maybe a few lesser knowns like Nick DiPaolo all just sort of gravitated toward each other while playing golf at swank SoCal country clubs and formed a "Bitter And Old Conservative Comedians Society" where they have officially decreed that young people suck and don't appreciate comedy anymore because liberals have ruined everything.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Normally I'm sympathetic to people with mental illnesses (I have a major one myself, incidentally) but in Beck's case I just flat out can't have any sympathy for him. I've been listening to him for a very long time and there was a point where he knew he was losing it and just kind of rolled with it. He sounds like he'd be an OK guy to have as a friend or a drinking buddy but politically speaking he's an absolute poo poo. It gets even worse when you realize that he ultimately used his money to absolutely and completely insulate himself from reality deliberately. Well I think you'd have trouble having a drink with him at this point, having converted to Mormonism and all When I say not a bad person compared to his peers, I'm talking about things like when he tried to organize relief for the refugee children along the southern border when everyone in the conservative sphere was ready to drive them into the ocean. Moments like that lead me to believe he's trying to do the right thing, but his mind is clearly deteriorating. Half his show these days is about how SOMETHING is about to happen but he's not sure what. Dude is losing it
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Of course she doesn't. She's a professional troll. Yeah, it seems like she goes quiet for a while, then suddenly makes news by saying something at least 2 steps more awful than any of the main right-wingers.
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Jun 11, 2015 06:20
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Coulter is a reactionary reactionary.
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Jun 11, 2015 06:51
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I've always found Michael savage endlessly entertaining. He's a decent story teller as well. He's a liberal hipster that got mad at all his other liberal hipster friends and took his ball and went home.
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Jun 11, 2015 07:40
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Knight posted:Uhh, Chris Rock had to retire an entire bit about black people he hates. It's well-done but he was clearly "punching down" at what he considered a lower class of black people. Complaining about "PC culture" is a sure fire way of getting attention, so it is no wonder that a bunch of people who are losing space will resort to "it is totally the PC authoritarians, believe me!" It has nothing to do with punching down. Seinfeld doesn't get college gigs because his comedy is stale and old, not because anyone objected to him punching down. And all anyone has to do to see that that is indeed the case is the fact that Daniel Tosh is just about the most popular comedian on college campuses all around the country.
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joepinetree posted:
No liberals are the real hitler, also social justice skeletons.
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RACHET posted:I've always found Michael savage endlessly entertaining. He's a decent story teller as well. He's a liberal hipster that got mad at all his other liberal hipster friends and took his ball and went home. It's especially awesome when he talks up his own unused PhD in some quackery and then belittles actual physicians.
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Klaus88 posted:
AdjectiveNoun posted:Of course she doesn't. She's a professional troll. Yeah that Boondocks version of Coulter is probably closer to reality than the version she portrays in her books. She's just really good at pissing off liberals and getting headlines.
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Jun 11, 2015 13:19
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The Boondocks version makes her an even shittier person. If she knows what she's saying is hateful and wrong and gets people to believe awful things, but does it anyway to make money that's worse than if she was actually sincere.
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Jun 11, 2015 13:28
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Radish posted:The Boondocks version makes her an even shittier person. If she knows what she's saying is hateful and wrong and gets people to believe awful things, but does it anyway to make money that's worse than if she was actually sincere. Of course she's just saying it to piss people off and make money, noone that insane could pull it together enough for interviews and write books without sounding like Alex Jones. And we can all thank Bill Maher for keeping her relevant back in the day.
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Jun 11, 2015 13:31
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Sir Tonk posted:Of course she's just saying it to piss people off and make money, noone that insane could pull it together enough for interviews and write books without sounding like Alex Jones. Yeah I know she's really a total troll that tries to be intentionally offensive but the vibe I got from Boondocks was that their version of her wasn't as bad since she was in on the scam. It's been a while since I saw that episode so I may be remembering it incorrectly.
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Jun 11, 2015 13:32
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Radish posted:Yeah I know she's a total troll but the vibe I got from Boondocks was that she wasn't as bad since she was in on the scam. It's been a while since I saw that episode so I may be remembering it incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seThIG34R8 I'm not saying McGruder was correct in his version, but it was a funny rewriting of the persona she has in the media.
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In other news, Drudge is running this headline again. I swear he's been doing this every few months since 2008. Record Number of Americans Renounced Their U.S. Citizenship in 2015 quote:Between January and March of 2015, a record 1,336 Americans renounced their U.S. citizenship, according to a quarterly report by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) that was published in The Federal Register. They only needed one more... 
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Jun 11, 2015 13:37
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Sir Tonk posted:In other news, Drudge is running this headline again. I swear he's been doing this every few months since 2008. "Love it or leave it!.....oh, you are leaving..."
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Jun 11, 2015 13:42
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Sir Tonk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seThIG34R8 Yeah I'm way overthinking the joke, but Boondocks is pretty political and it's hard to turn myself off and just enjoy it sometimes.
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Jun 11, 2015 14:04
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Sir Tonk posted:In other news, Drudge is running this headline again. I swear he's been doing this every few months since 2008. Normally, I get frustrated reading the comments in stories like these, but this is just astounding and funny to me. No one can really decide WHY people are leaving in the comments. They just say it's Obama's fault and then work backwards from there. It's amazing.
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joepinetree posted:Complaining about "PC culture" is a sure fire way of getting attention, so it is no wonder that a bunch of people who are losing space will resort to "it is totally the PC authoritarians, believe me!" It has nothing to do with punching down. Seinfeld doesn't get college gigs because his comedy is stale and old, not because anyone objected to him punching down. Yeah, like on the interview Seinfeld gives his example joke of young people swiping through their phones like "a gay French king", and says people don't laugh because it's offensive. When in reality people don't laugh because it isn't funny. It's not even a joke. It's supposed to be funny because he said "gay", I guess?
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It's not that Seinfeld has lost touch with modern audiences, it's that his stand up was never funny ever.
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Jun 11, 2015 14:38
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Tender Bender posted:Yeah, like on the interview Seinfeld gives his example joke of young people swiping through their phones like "a gay French king", and says people don't laugh because it's offensive. When in reality people don't laugh because it isn't funny. It's not even a joke. It's supposed to be funny because he said "gay", I guess? I mean, you and him are both kind of right. It's offensively unfunny. Like, that's a joke so unfunny that I kind of want to backhand him for making it.
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Radish posted:It's not that Seinfeld has lost touch with modern audiences, it's that his stand up was never funny ever. It's observational!!
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How do you swipe through your phone like a gay French king? Never heard of a French king who had a phone or liked to make swiping motions? That doesn't even work as an analogy. I guess he's saying kids are decadent like Louis XIV? And gay because gently caress gays? 
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Xibanya posted:How do you swipe through your phone like a gay French king? Never heard of a French king who had a phone or liked to make swiping motions? That doesn't even work as an analogy. I guess he's saying kids are decadent like Louis XIV? And gay because gently caress gays? Limp-wristed.
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Xibanya posted:How do you swipe through your phone like a gay French king? Never heard of a French king who had a phone or liked to make swiping motions? That doesn't even work as an analogy. I guess he's saying kids are decadent like Louis XIV? And gay because gently caress gays? Gay people are stereotyped as exaggeratedly effeminate with limp wrists, which I guess could result in hand-waving like you might do if you're scrolling really fast on a touchscreen. It IS offensive but people don't laugh because it's just not a funny observation.
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quote:A record total of 3,415 Americans renounced their citizenship last year, according to the “Quarterly Publication of Individuals Who Have Chosen To Expatriate.” Interestingly, there's some debate over what qualifies someone for that list. But even so, as of June 9th, 2015, the population of the USA was reported as 321,043,000. So barely more than 1/1000th of a percent are voluntarily expatriating according to that report.
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Jun 11, 2015 15:56
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That gay french king joke would have had Archie Bunker in stitches
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Xibanya posted:How do you swipe through your phone like a gay French king? Never heard of a French king who had a phone or liked to make swiping motions? That doesn't even work as an analogy. I guess he's saying kids are decadent like Louis XIV? And gay because gently caress gays? Maybe he means like Rush Limbaugh in reference to his hideously garish rococo Frenchaboo condo?
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I don't think anyone popular in talk radio is legitimately crazy. I think they do it because it sells. But it's a market that became saturated in the late 2000s. So you have up-and-commers like Alex Jones amping up the lunatic act and so middle-acts like Beck have to up their batshit game to keep pace.
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Sir Tonk posted:Guys, did you know that the cops going nuts on that pool party in Texas was all a ploy to distract from the most important issue the US faces? Maybe I'm out of the right-wing media loop but I feel like it's pretty rare to see pure old-fashioned xenophobia out in the open like this. Usually they try to make it about illegal immigration to cover up their racist intentions, but this is vintage prewar "we must expel the foreign hordes" rhetoric stripped of all dog whistles or attempts at nuance. I know it's Ann Coulter and she just sells whatever the hard right is willing to buy but it's pretty disturbing that there's apparently a market for this poo poo.
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Why not just say a French King? Like, a french king is already stereotypically flamboyant enough to get the point across.
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beatlegs posted:I think Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Adam Sandler, Colin Quinn, Kevin James, David Spade, and maybe a few lesser knowns like Nick DiPaolo all just sort of gravitated toward each other while playing golf at swank SoCal country clubs and formed a "Bitter And Old Conservative Comedians Society" where they have officially decreed that young people suck and don't appreciate comedy anymore because liberals have ruined everything. Yeah, Chris Rock, the guy who wrote an amazing bit about the constant poo poo black people have to deal with everyday just last year, has suddenly become a bitter and old conservative. You've done it! You cracked the code! My god..
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Chuck Johnson tried to get back on twitter and was banned 8 Suspensions He also took a picture of him in front of the Twitter HQ  The best part about all of this is that the only thing that kept him alive was twitter and now he can never get it back and anytime he tries to do it, he gets suspended even quicker. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44716_Ouch!_Chuck_Johnsons_Latest_Attempt_to_Sneak_Back_Onto_Twitter_Is_Denied
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44716_Ouch!_Chuck_Johnsons_Latest_Attempt_to_Sneak_Back_Onto_Twitter_Is_Denied
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Chuck Johnson tried to get back on twitter and was banned Also his gig line is all hosed up.
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Madmarker posted:Also his face is all hosed up.
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Radish posted:It's not that Seinfeld has lost touch with modern audiences, it's that his stand up was never funny ever. Fan of airline food spotted. edit Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44716_Ouch!_Chuck_Johnsons_Latest_Attempt_to_Sneak_Back_Onto_Twitter_Is_Denied Mods please change my handle to Jade Helm Captain, tia. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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RoanHorse posted:That was basically just 'don't punch down.' What's wrong with that? Nothing from what I can tell. The weird thing to me is that Jerry Seinfeld was never edgy or offensive by an measure and went out of his way not work blue. I've seen him a couple of times and I'm not sure what's in his act that he thinks he can't use or might be too much for college audiences. I love edgy and offensive comedy, so long as it's funny. I love Sam Kinison, Eddie Murphy and even think Dice is OK because, to me, he's lampooning a character/stereotype. A lot of this material hasn't aged too well, particularly the human being and AIDS jokes, and admittedly it's almost shocking to listen to. I love Jim Jeffries, Bill Burr, Lewis Black, Richard Pryor, Howard Stern, Chris Rock, Lisa Lampinelli, Bill Hicks, Sarah Silverman etc. even though they often cross a line. But what the gently caress is Seinfeld of all people on about regarding a PC crowd? I can't remember a single offensive or edgy bit he ever did. Someone said his show was "edgy for the time". No it wasn't. They did an episode on jacking off but that's about it. The Simpsons, Married With Children and even South Park were considered far more provacative and racy and the first two predate Seinfeld. All in the Family and NYPD Blue caught more poo poo than Seinfeld ever did. I can't think of a cleaner and less blue comedian than Jerry loving Seinfeld.
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BiggerBoat posted:Nothing from what I can tell. Brian Regan. Although to be fair, you did say "comedian."
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