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On the other hand if you don't plan right, or your buddy shows up and you get super hosed up and have to lift hungover on four hours of poor sleep. That is the worst, the pure existential dread when your body cannot move the weight that you know it can is palpable and disgusting. I did that once and after failing my bench four times and generally being weaker than the average DYEL I was seriously considering driving into oncoming traffic.
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Gripweed posted:One of the highlights of the holiday season is the return to store shelves of the best candy Love these dudes
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doverhog posted:Your mistake was not making sure you were free before being hung over. I work and work out a lot, so when the chance is there, to just get drunk and do nothing the next day. It is like a gift from the gods. In that case it was a matter of being cocky. My neighbors were having a party and I knew the research so well I thought I might as well pre-celebrate and went a little too far. It worked out though so 
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Gripweed posted:One of the highlights of the holiday season is the return to store shelves of the best candy yo guys, that little chode Candy Corn's cool cousin is back in town!
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Oct 1, 2022 01:32
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Gripweed posted:One of the highlights of the holiday season is the return to store shelves of the best candy Extremely cursed.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:26
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PHUO: you can’t be an atheist and believe in ghosts/the supernatural. Pick one.
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Oct 1, 2022 06:38
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thetoughestbean posted:PHUO: you can’t be an atheist and believe in ghosts/the supernatural. Pick one. I'm not sure that's unpopular outside of the Mainland where "atheist" is more of a misnomer anyway.
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Oct 1, 2022 06:40
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2nd Amendment posted:I'm not sure that's unpopular outside of the Mainland where "atheist" is more of a misnomer anyway. I was just told by a (white) New Zealander that they can be an atheist and believe in maniwha
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I don't know what that is but it sounds like some noble savage poo poo by way of authenticity culture.
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How about you define atheist, and define deist, and define god too while you are at it. *and define how belief in God is different vs gods
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Oct 1, 2022 07:52
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thetoughestbean posted:I was just told by a (white) New Zealander that they can be an atheist and believe in maniwha Is that a misspelling of taniwha? That’s a new term for me, at least. I’d love to learn a new thing though! I think you can be an atheist in the sense of not believing in an Abrahamic or singular god (frankly that god seems like a jerk to me), and still believe in the persistence of spirit, like say, ghosts or taniwha or unseen forces. I guess technically that’s agnosticism rather than atheism, but I’m not about to rules lawyer anyone on their spiritual beliefs. I’m vehemently non religious but sometimes I feel the presence of people I’ve known who have died. Academically I know that’s just me thinking of them with my brain and remembering, but I choose to believe there’s a remnant of them hanging around because it comforts me and makes me feel looked after.
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Oct 1, 2022 08:23
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Every time I eat rear end I worship a god.
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Shithouse Dave posted:Is that a misspelling of taniwha? That’s a new term for me, at least. I’d love to learn a new thing though! Yeah I totally botched the spelling, I had to look it up after I heard what it was. And I wouldn’t call a practitioner of Shintoism an atheist, nor would I call a Buddhist an atheist, despite both religions not necessarily having a central deity (yes I know I’m massively oversimplifying things here). You don’t need to just not believe in a central all powerful deity to be an atheist, it’s the rest of the metaphysicsl you need to not believe in too. I don’t think it’s wrong to believe in those things. If that’s what you believe, and you aren’t using those things to harm other people, great! But I’d rather people who believe in those things call themselves “non-religious but spiritual”, or agnostic if they’re taking a position more of uncertainty.
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one interesting re-framing of what many people call atheism is 'non-theist'; not making a claim of the existence of a god. Buddhism is generally non-theist, for instance, even though it generally makes some supernatural claims. I think in a comparative-religion context it's much more useful than 'atheist'. however, I would call some all-encompassing-ideologies or religions (phuo: same thing) atheist; Marxist-Leninism is an example.
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thetoughestbean posted:Yeah I totally botched the spelling, I had to look it up after I heard what it was. I guess it boils down to a semantic thing. I’ve always understood theism to refer to gods - singular or multiple. But ghosts, taniwha, dragons, Sasquatch and other mythical and/or metaphysical creatures aren’t gods. So to my mind belief in taniwha is compatible with atheism. Belief in Rangi and Papa, Tane and Tangaroa might be closer to theism, or it might be just a cherishing of the myths you grew up with, the stories of your whakapapa. That’s more of a grey area. My understanding of anti/theism might not be technically correct though, and I’m too blazed to be arsed looking it up right now.
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Shithouse Dave posted:I guess it boils down to a semantic thing. I’ve always understood theism to refer to gods - singular or multiple. But ghosts, taniwha, dragons, Sasquatch and other mythical and/or metaphysical creatures aren’t gods. What separates them from gods? It's the same idea at play.
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Atticus_1354 posted:What separates them from gods? It's the same idea at play. Power. To put it another way, different attached things. Ghosts could just be different energy wavelengths. They aren't because they don't exist but you don't need a belief in any particular schema of the universe to believe in them. If you believe in, say, the Abrahamic God then you have to believe in a load of different things as well, though what exactly can depend. That means you have a whole raft of other things you believe to be true as well. Ghosts can just be weird extras. Josef bugman has a new favorite as of 10:25 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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You can also believe in gods, not in any defined sense. Though you should first go to first principles, and address nihilism. After you did that and know you are free, pick a god, or a few.
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I liked Malky Dungeon. I rarely was able to tell what they were saying or what was happening in the art, but I liked it
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Gripweed posted:One of the highlights of the holiday season is the return to store shelves of the best candy Shithouse Dave posted:I think you can be an atheist in the sense of not believing in an Abrahamic or singular god (frankly that god seems like a jerk to me), and still believe in the persistence of spirit, like say, ghosts or taniwha or unseen forces. I guess technically that’s agnosticism rather than atheism, but I’m not about to rules lawyer anyone on their spiritual beliefs. 1. (as commonly used) Believing a god or gods (specific or unknown) exist but knowing you have no reasonable justification for doing so; or 2. (technically correct) Believing that it is impossible to know whether gods exist or not. In this latter case, you may also be the other kind of agnostic, or you may be a believer in a particular religion or an atheist. If you definitely do not believe in any god, but you do believe in ghosts, you're still an atheist (and possibly a type-2 agnostic, but that's not relevant to your belief in ghosts). Ohtori Akio posted:one interesting re-framing of what many people call atheism is 'non-theist'; not making a claim of the existence of a god. Buddhism is generally non-theist, for instance, even though it generally makes some supernatural claims. I think in a comparative-religion context it's much more useful than 'atheist'. however, I would call some all-encompassing-ideologies or religions (phuo: same thing) atheist; Marxist-Leninism is an example.
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Josef bugman posted:Power. Like on a 1-10 scale? Seems like a really strong dragon could beat up a weak enough God. Some of those minor deities are kind of pathetic.
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thetoughestbean posted:PHUO: you can’t be an atheist and believe in ghosts/the supernatural. Pick one. That doesn't make any sense. You absolutely can. thetoughestbean posted:You don’t need to just not believe in a central all powerful deity to be an atheist, it’s the rest of the metaphysicsl you need to not believe in too. Don't gatekeep atheism.
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IDK, I tend to agree with other posters in the thread that it would be kind of weird to be an atheist but still believe in the supernatural. Not impossible or necessarily paradoxical though.
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Ohtori Akio posted:however, I would call some all-encompassing-ideologies or religions (phuo: same thing) atheist; Marxist-Leninism is an example. Yeah, there are some distinctions between the two, but I don't think that the difference is that huge. A little while ago, a topic of discussion in the US Politics Debate and Discussion thread was about how conservative Christian evangelicals had such an irrational unshakable faith in their political beliefs. But really the way conservative evangelical Christians talk about politics isn't greatly different from any other group of people who holds very strong political/ideological beliefs, IMO. The unsurprising Goon thread consensus was: our ideological nemeses/doppelgangers are wackos.
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When it comes to politics you should work out what your actual beliefs are, and then support the political parties that most closely align with them. Depending on voting and parliamentary system strategic voting can come into it too. Of course that requires that you are capable of independent thought.
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I believe in sexy ghosts and ghost blowjobs
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I actually wish ghosts and spirits and monsters and stuff were real so I could bust them.
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I personally do not believe in ghosts but do believe in spirits, like sauna gnomes that like it when you drink beer in the sauna and give you blessings. After taking in hard löyly I feel blessed, and praise the gnomes by drinking some more beer. doverhog has a new favorite as of 15:45 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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It depends on how you set the boundaries of your atheism. For example, I'm a pretty strong atheist (Marxist) but I am also extremely confident that the Emperor of Japan is real.
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Tiggum posted:The "a" prefix already means "non" though. A theist claims and believes that one or more gods exist; an atheist doesn't. In the same way that an "atypical" thing is one that is not typical. Your "non-theist" term means exactly the same thing as the term that already exists. It's true that atheism and nontheism share similar constructions. Nevertheless, both terms exist well before me with very distinct definitions.
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2nd Amendment posted:It depends on how you set the boundaries of your atheism. For example, I'm a pretty strong atheist (Marxist) but I am also extremely confident that the Emperor of Japan is real. Anime is NOT real.
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天皇陛下万歳
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Just worship the Sun like a rational person.
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i think ghosts exist in the sense that people see phantom images of people or animals they were used to seeing or that they were primed enough to see
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Atticus_1354 posted:Like on a 1-10 scale? Seems like a really strong dragon could beat up a weak enough God. Some of those minor deities are kind of pathetic. On the one hand Jesus did get killed pretty easy but he also gave a dragon its walking papers so it’s tough to say.
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Atticus_1354 posted:Like on a 1-10 scale? Seems like a really strong dragon could beat up a weak enough God. Some of those minor deities are kind of pathetic. God with a capital letter? Dragon has no chance, his very existence was part of Gods plan. A god? Ancalagon could beat a maia. It took Earendil with his magic ship, using a Silmaril as a weapon, to defeat the dragons.
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Catgirl Al Capone posted:i think ghosts exist in the sense that people see phantom images of people or animals they were used to seeing or that they were primed enough to see yeah but thats not really a ghost
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Unpopular opinion: I am an idiot and if I can think of an easy way to improve the world then a divine being who contains all things should be able to think their way to it. If they cannot they should either a) explain it or b) do not deserve worship. The universe may be created by a divinity. If it is, it has questions to answer. If it isn't then there isn't anything to worry about and we all just return to nowt at the end of all this.
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