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Vermain posted:It's always interesting hearing regional differences of the same characters. Alisaie's VA and overall personality in the Western version always felt a bit snooty and refined, like she's subtly convinced she's just a little ahead of everyone else (except you, of course), whereas the Japanese VA sounds way more hotheaded and impetuous. Didn't TERA have a similar thing where one race was all cute and compassionate in the west, but monstrous eco warrior psychopath in Japan?
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Ytlaya posted:So I just did Sastasha as my daily Leveling duty and this dude in my party kept asking me "do you #maga" and then at the end of the dungeon he said "vote donald trump 2020." I wonder if it's the same one who called me a communist and got me kicked from Halatali. Was he on excal? Edit: Azrael Crystallis was the name, now that I’m home and can see my blacklist. Emily Spinach fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Safeword posted:Didn't TERA have a similar thing where one race was all cute and compassionate in the west, but monstrous eco warrior psychopath in Japan? Tera's thing was that the race of
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Safeword posted:Didn't TERA have a similar thing where one race was all cute and compassionate in the west, but monstrous eco warrior psychopath in Japan? It's come up in a few places, though I don't recall any major differences in TERA (aside from censoring some of the Elin outfits, for obvious reasons). The two games that always come to mind for me are Last Remnant and the original NieR: the Japanese versions star wispy dudes with boyish haircuts, while the Western versions star gruff, Schwarzenegger-esque barbarian dudes. Those are fairly explicit examples, though. Differences between regions tends mostly to be in minor points of characterization or in regional stereotypes that make more sense to the local audience (e.g. Hancock in the Japanese version being an inept tourist butchering the language versus Hancock in the Western version being a Hingan-obsessed weeb).
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Sep 1, 2018 21:13
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Vermain posted:It's come up in a few places, though I don't recall any major differences in TERA (aside from censoring some of the Elin outfits, for obvious reasons). The two games that always come to mind for me are Last Remnant and the original NieR: the Japanese versions star wispy dudes with boyish haircuts, while the Western versions star gruff, Schwarzenegger-esque barbarian dudes. Those are fairly explicit examples, though. Differences between regions tends mostly to be in minor points of characterization or in regional stereotypes that make more sense to the local audience (e.g. Hancock in the Japanese version being an inept tourist butchering the language versus Hancock in the Western version being a Hingan-obsessed weeb). idk what you’re talking about re: the last remnant, I played on PC and the hero was just a standard JRPG boy NieR is also a bit more complicated than that. In Japan, there were two versions: prettyboy brother version for the PS3, and muscledad version for the Xbox 360. It’s just that the US only got the 360 version, not that the protagonist was specifically changed
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dmboogie posted:idk what you’re talking about re: the last remnant, I played on PC and the hero was just a standard JRPG boy Was I thinking about a different game than Last Remnant? I could've sworn it had two regional protags.
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Sep 1, 2018 22:15
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Vermain posted:Was I thinking about a different game than Last Remnant? I could've sworn it had two regional protags. I think you're thinking about one of the Nier games.
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Vermain posted:Was I thinking about a different game than Last Remnant? I could've sworn it had two regional protags. No, it's Rush everywhere.
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So I finally got to God Kefka.First Forsaken posted:This sequence of attacks is pretty reasonable to understand. Second Forsaken posted:
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Second Forsaken is kind of like Grand Cross Omega in that it looks like a terrifying, chaotic field of death when you first see it, but it's not actually that bad once everybody knows their part and does it. On the other hand, it is the last new mechanic in O8S. Third Forsaken is just a combination of things you've already dealt with before so it tends to be much faster to learn. Beating second Forsaken means that as long as you have enough DPS you are most of the way to clearing the fight!
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I find 2nd forsaken to be easier than GCO, there is a ton of stuff going on but what each individual person does is almost exactly the same every time vs GCO which was a lot more random
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2nd Forsaken would be a nightmare if you potentially had to do everything it contains personally at random. But everyone individually has a relatively simple thing to do on their own, just focus on your role for it and 2nd Forsaken is one of the easier dances. Really the Trine dances are the most annoying/difficult part of the fight, that and "Oh whoops forgot to turn Kefka lol good luck finding the sliver that's gonna be safe from wing + tower".
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:So I finally got to God Kefka. Important thing for second Forsaken; ranged DPS should back away from Third and fourth Forsakens are just a review course, so those are just something to see and learn.
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Well, the pug party disbanded for now, so I guess I'll try it again later if I can catch up with those people.  For now, I'll get some Sands of Time for my glamours.
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Second Forsaken is more fun to preform than GCO but it does not have the option to just die and let the healers LB3 you out of responsiblity therefore it is a worse mechanic.
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small bird pudding posted:I wonder if it's the same one who called me a communist and got me kicked from Halatali. Was he on excal? I'm on excal, but I think duty finder matches you across servers, so not sure about him. That name does ring a bell, so it might have actually been the same guy.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:So I finally got to God Kefka. I love God Kefka even if it loving killed two of my statics in a row. It really feels like a deity just trying his damnedest to destroy you. The very first attack is setting all your HP to 1 and then blasting you off the surface of Eorzea. Wow, they actually managed to survive that, better get crazier and crazier with my attacks.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I love God Kefka even if it loving killed two of my statics in a row. Neo Exdeath and Thordan hard have a pretty similar feel to this and it's part of why they are also cool, thematic fights. (Thordan ex subverts it by suddenly going "now the REAL battle begins!" right when the hard mode version would have gone into panic mode, which is why thex is the *best* thematic fight).
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So this solo duty with Tataru after Swallow's compass is the hardest fight in the game, right?
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Pretty much, since you're partied with an NPC that behaves like a bad player. One of the AoEs is a bit misleading.
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So I did the quests to unlock Binding Coil of Bahamut, but I currently don't have a quest in my log and I have 5 "Turns" in the Duty Finder. Which one(s) do I need to do to continue the quest chain? Do I need to do all of them in sequence? It's a little confusing, because the Crystal Tower stuff (which I just finished) would unlock each part in sequence.
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Finally got to Heavensward and unlocked Astrologian and Dark Knight! I'm excited to try the jobs out, though with them both starting at level 30 I feel like it would be a long time before I can really do anything with them..
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Ytlaya posted:So I did the quests to unlock Binding Coil of Bahamut, but I currently don't have a quest in my log and I have 5 "Turns" in the Duty Finder. Which one(s) do I need to do to continue the quest chain? Do I need to do all of them in sequence? It's a little confusing, because the Crystal Tower stuff (which I just finished) would unlock each part in sequence. you don't need to do them in sequence iirc but you definitely need to do them all before you progress to the next stage
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Thundarr posted:Neo Exdeath and Thordan hard have a pretty similar feel to this and it's part of why they are also cool, thematic fights. (Thordan ex subverts it by suddenly going "now the REAL battle begins!" right when the hard mode version would have gone into panic mode, which is why thex is the *best* thematic fight). What about relevant Final Coil when the music lined up?
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The Doomhammer posted:So this solo duty with Tataru after Swallow's compass is the hardest fight in the game, right? It's no Red Chocobo.
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There are 3 tiers of coil (binding coil, second coil and final coil) and you only have to beat the last turn of each tier to advance the quest but some of the other turns have story content so you should probably do them all. 2 level 70s can clear almost every fight pretty easily, though I think you need 3 people for Turn 9 (aka second coil turn 4) due to mechanics.
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You can at least get past the golem meteors with two, though that's purely luck on where the third lands. We caved in eventually, though, it's still rough after that with two.
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WrightOfWay posted:There are 3 tiers of coil (binding coil, second coil and final coil) and you only have to beat the last turn of each tier to advance the quest but some of the other turns have story content so you should probably do them all. 2 level 70s can clear almost every fight pretty easily, though I think you need 3 people for Turn 9 (aka second coil turn 4) due to mechanics. Tested that out a while back and you need 4 unless you just burst super hard. Golems are doable with less but the second part just kills you too fast.
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isk posted:Pretty much, since you're partied with an NPC that behaves like a bad player. - Doesn't use her Egis. - Doesn't equip her Soul Crystal. - Unironically using Physick. - Dropping AOEs on the other players with AOEs. I wish Tataru would unsubscribe from this game. 
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Ah, I may try to recruit some goons to go through the Bahamut stuff, then. I'm not 70 yet, though; my highest is a 62 DRK, and I was wanting to do this earlier story content before continuing the MSQ (Crystal Tower was surprisingly relevant - I imagine I'd be confused at Nero's next appearance without having done it). I'm currently right after the end of the main Heavensward quests, before all the Heavensward patch content. I keep getting distracted doing alts (largely because I try to do the duty finder stuff each day, and find that by the time I'm done I've already spent all the time I want to spend MMO-ing that night). In addition to my 62 DRK, I've gotten SAM to 60, BRD to 51, NIN to 53 (was my first job), and I've played SMN/SCH to 43. There actually is some method to this madness; I find that in practice I often find myself dropping games after I finish their main story content (for example never doing late/post-game stuff in RPGs after I beat the final boss), so if I want to experience the job quest content I'm better off doing it while I still have a bunch of main story quests hanging over my head to motivate me.
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Vermain posted:Differences between regions tends mostly to be in minor points of characterization or in regional stereotypes that make more sense to the local audience (e.g. Hancock in the Japanese version being an inept tourist butchering the language versus Hancock in the Western version being a Hingan-obsessed weeb). I'm really happy the english localization team get the creative freedom that they do.
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Philonius posted:I'm really happy the english localization team get the creative freedom that they do. Same. I love the version of Hancock we got. I appreciate a good 90% of the localization changes they make. And that's really drat good imo They do get their hiccups from time to time though... (3.55 spoiler) Papalymo's Final Witness
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The Grimace posted:Same. I love the version of Hancock we got. I appreciate a good 90% of the localization changes they make. And that's really drat good imo Getting Hauchfrant killed
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SonicRulez posted:What about relevant Final Coil when the music lined up? If we're going with music timing for dramatic effect, Ravana ex is the hands down winner for lining up the entire second half of the fight with the song.
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Ytlaya posted:My Samurai is finally getting close to 60, at which point I will resume the MSQ stuff, since I wanted to use Samurai through Stormblood later. I've also been leveling Summoner/Scholar on the side (just using the daily Leveling Duty Finder thing for it). I find the damage reduction + self healing from third eye helps keep me alive in Rabanastre and Ridorana when today's no-good healers are sleeping on the job. Here's my mouse & keyboard UI setup with sam hotkeys which is still kind of a WIP but I'm mostly happy with:  Movement is on WSAD, the left side of my bars are 1-5 and are where I try to put my bread & butter gcd skills. The right side is QERF+8(which is a mouse side button) and are where I try to put my class-meter consuming/OGCD skills. Bars have crtl and shift modifiers (as well as alt but I don't actually use it). I also throw some long cd skills up on the f-keys but its mostly due to inertia. The only class so far I've struggled with this setup is PLD, which just plain has too many skills. When I'm feeling up to adjusting my keybindings again I'm probably going to move Hagakure and Meikyo Shisui somewhere else, swap Hissatsu: Kyuten and Merciful Eyes positions, and move Meditate somewhere else. I also don't like where I have the 3 aoe combo skills but haven't been able to think of a better solution. A good idea I heard some one else talk about is using mouse buttons for modifier keys. Also, Ytlaya posted:One day the scales will fall from my eyes and I will realize that I'm actually the only person alive who does not have a third arm growing out of their chest with which to use the 6-0 keys. The main motivation behind my current set-up is I refuse on principle to use 6-0 for keybinds. That junk is just unbelievably clunky.
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The Doomhammer posted:So this solo duty with Tataru after Swallow's compass is the hardest fight in the game, right? No it's easy, just don't do what Tataru tells you.
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Ytlaya posted:I'm quickly running out of buttons for Samurai. Is Third Eye and its accompanying Cure skill mostly optional/unnecessary in dungeon content? That would clear up a few slots. Currently all my reachable number keys are taken up with the main combos, ctrl-number keys taken up with the AoE skills + a couple cooldowns and shift-number taken up with the weapon skill and kenki moves. I'm just barely fitting everything after putting Third Eye and the cure thing on ctrl-Q and ctrl-E, and I guess I could maybe reserve shift-Q/shift-E for something as well. Don't worry next patch you can figure out where to pull all of the other role actions.  On controller I use two pages plus the 8 extra on the w bar and some classes have plenty of room for them while others are pretty cramped. But the problem with those role actions is that most of them are cool downs so if you use pagination you lose visibility for when they're back up. You're also battling what's available on the face buttons since if you put anything on the dpad you have to take your thumb off the dpad to hit it and thus can't do it while moving. (Though there's some advanced speed running tech where you bring your index finger over to hit it with the other hand.) The way around the cool down thing is too make a hot bar and put just cds on there and shove it off to the side just so you can see them. Still  though. Gonna be a little interesting at the start of that patch. Pretty sure I want all of the stuff for healer, but caster dps? Pffff.
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The Doomhammer posted:So this solo duty with Tataru after Swallow's compass is the hardest fight in the game, right? Tataru is comically inept at anything combat related. Note how she keeps running toward you whenever she gets an AOE marker 
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Philonius posted:Tataru is comically inept at anything combat related. Note how she keeps running toward you whenever she gets an AOE marker Also note that it *is not* the "stack here" marker.
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