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temple posted:what i don't get is what the top level grifters thought was going to be accomplished by going to that rally. They were riding the wave of what was at the time a seemingly growing movement. These thought leaders were vying to be the voices of a resurgent movement which would have resulted in tremendously more political power and grifting opportunities had it become mainstream and legitimised. They were also pretty dumb and delusional about the movement's prospects. There is a more nuanced answer, but 'they're dumb and egotistical' pretty much answers it.
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Apr 21, 2018 02:47
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is laura loomer the one that tried to grind on a dude and he wasn't havin it
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Apr 21, 2018 03:13
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zegermans posted:is laura loomer the one that tried to grind on a dude and he wasn't havin it Yes, her "big tits and Ashkenazi IQ" line didn't seem to land
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paradoxGentleman posted:That does not excuse them, and acting as if it did is exaclty what they're counting on to continue doing this poo poo. But it does explain why Bill Gates' ideas about taxes differ from Microsoft's tax avoidance strategy.
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zegermans posted:is laura loomer the one that tried to grind on a dude and he wasn't havin it also maybe has a cernovich sex tape
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Are there any historical examples of people coming up with conspiracies this insane? Or is it a case of the Internet Making You Stupid
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temple posted:what i don't get is what the top level grifters thought was going to be accomplished by going to that rally. The short version is, after the election of God Emperor Cheeto, the chuds thought Unite the Right was going to be the coming out party, the debutante's ball for the young Nazis of America, show up in force in numbers for the first time in public, announce to the world they have arrived, with more popularity, more numbers, more recognition and even bigger torch rallies going forward once the isolated individual chuds could see they were part of a movement and there were many more like them. With the blessing of the President himself! It didn't work out that way.
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Zwabu posted:The short version is, after the election of God Emperor Cheeto, the chuds thought Unite the Right was going to be the coming out party, the debutante's ball for the young Nazis of America, show up in force in numbers for the first time in public, announce to the world they have arrived, with more popularity, more numbers, more recognition and even bigger torch rallies going forward once the isolated individual chuds could see they were part of a movement and there were many more like them. With the blessing of the President himself! i often wonder if it could have had a different outcome if there was an actual non-moron planning the thing. like if the egotistical morons had taken their heads out of their asses and realized that they personally werent hitler 2.0 and reached out to bannon to take charge of the thing
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Shear Modulus posted:i often wonder if it could have had a different outcome if there was an actual non-moron planning the thing. like if the egotistical morons had taken their heads out of their asses and realized that they personally werent hitler 2.0 and reached out to bannon to take charge of the thing i don't think so. i mean. the original nazis legit got lucky with the monarchist/other hard right dickheads getting scared of the commies and socialists and realizing they didnt have the manpower to fight both the nazis and the left so they sided with the nazis and gave hitler power in hopes he would be controllable. for the unite the right thing to have worked, they needed actual outside circumstances to be bad and in their favor.
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Shear Modulus posted:i often wonder if it could have had a different outcome if there was an actual non-moron planning the thing. like if the egotistical morons had taken their heads out of their asses and realized that they personally werent hitler 2.0 and reached out to bannon to take charge of the thing Every Nazi imagines himself as one of the Big loving Pigs who were part of the 3rd Reich's upper crust. Every single one. They're dumb, dumb, dumb people with silly outsized egos. They'd never have been able to do something that strategically sound because they're constitutionally incapable of making that leap.
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Shear Modulus posted:i often wonder if it could have had a different outcome if there was an actual non-moron planning the thing. like if the egotistical morons had taken their heads out of their asses and realized that they personally werent hitler 2.0 and reached out to bannon to take charge of the thing asking"what if the nazis were capable of planning two steps ahead" is like asking "what if fish were trees" the entire ideology is, fundamentally, about producing an environment where pussy poo poo like "thinking for a single goddamned second about the consequences of your actions" is not something you have to worry about these are the people who were caught brutally, painfully by surprise by the revelation "the jews we got to emigrate mostly emigrated to countries near us" "expanding our borders got us back all the jews we expelled and then some"
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Zwabu posted:The short version is, after the election of God Emperor Cheeto, the chuds thought Unite the Right was going to be the coming out party, the debutante's ball for the young Nazis of America, show up in force in numbers for the first time in public, announce to the world they have arrived, with more popularity, more numbers, more recognition and even bigger torch rallies going forward once the isolated individual chuds could see they were part of a movement and there were many more like them. With the blessing of the President himself! Dapper_Swindler posted:i don't think so. i mean. the original nazis legit got lucky with the monarchist/other hard right dickheads getting scared of the commies and socialists and realizing they didnt have the manpower to fight both the nazis and the left so they sided with the nazis and gave hitler power in hopes he would be controllable. for the unite the right thing to have worked, they needed actual outside circumstances to be bad and in their favor. that's from a fascist march in east germany from a few years ago. so yeah i'm posting that to illustrate a common theme. which is that i don't think their ideology really "works" without these ritualized, militaristic mass events. you could formulate it: "if the nazis had a torch march and no one livestreamed it, did it really happen?" they have to show themselves. it goes back to how they spend so much time fussing over their appearance and the outfits they wear. there's an old susan sontag essay describing fascism being a form of sadomasochistic theater based on the worship of power and enslavement: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1975/02/06/fascinating-fascism/ quote:Fascist aesthetics include but go far beyond the rather special celebration of the primitive to be found in The Nuba. They also flow from (and justify) a preoccupation with situations of control, submissive behavior, and extravagant effort; they exalt two seemingly opposite states, egomania and servitude. The relations of domination and enslavement take the form of a characteristic pageantry: the massing of groups of people; the turning of people into things; the multiplication of things and grouping of people/things around an all-powerful, hypnotic leader figure or force. The fascist dramaturgy centers on the orgiastic transactions between mighty forces and their puppets. Its choreography alternates between ceaseless motion and a congealed, static, “virile” posing. Fascist art glorifies surrender; it exalts mindlessness: it glamorizes death. it's not putting up flyers per se but the way this acts as a substitute for the mass rallies they really want to do: https://twitter.com/PatriotFront_/status/977985280761319427 this is better understood as a ritual. the photos are shot just right and given a blue filter (they always have a blue filter). in the discord logs, the members are given instructions on how to frame the shots to be just exact. there has to be a background representing patriot front's symbolic domination of the area. the group will even tweet links to local news articles after these flyer campaigns describing them as a nazi group! as if the group, which is trying to mask itself as "patriots," is proud of the fact that people are scared of the nazis! because that's what it's really about and the "patriot" camouflage is just a means to an end. they will absorb whatever they need to if it helps them advance that goal, whether it be a good-luck swastika, the word "socialism," the american flag or christian symbols -- whatever. it's like they're ideologically constituted to engage in these highly choreographed and ritualized events. anyways, i don't see how they can do anything else. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 07:13 on Apr 21, 2018 |
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I do wonder what it would look like if the March hadn't been so heavily protested and they hadn't murdered Hesther Heyer Like, if there wasn't pushback and then coverage forcing people to confront what happened, how would things look right now
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zegermans posted:is laura loomer the one that tried to grind on a dude and he wasn't havin it yeah she like grabbed the back of the dudes neck with a vice grip, pulled him toward her, and said something like "wouldn't it be so hot if you talk about gassing me because I'm a Jew" or something, and poor little alt-right boy was immediately catapulted right out his element and into Terror Town
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I do wonder what it would look like if the March hadn't been so heavily protested and they hadn't murdered Hesther Heyer There's p much no way it wasn't going to be heavily protested given the publicity, though if heather meyer hadn't been murdered there they would have killed someone else later on, the whole thing is baying for blood while the cops turn a blind eye.
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Apr 21, 2018 06:55
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Zeroisanumber posted:They're dumb, dumb, dumb people with silly outsized egos. They'd never have been able to do something that strategically sound because they're constitutionally incapable of making that leap. Doesn't that describe a lot of the original nazi upper-crust too?
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Epic High Five posted:yeah she like grabbed the back of the dudes neck with a vice grip, pulled him toward her, and said something like "wouldn't it be so hot if you talk about gassing me because I'm a Jew" or something, and poor little alt-right boy was immediately catapulted right out his element and into Terror Town I swear, people really have to stop letting their politics be ruled by their fetishes
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Shear Modulus posted:i often wonder if it could have had a different outcome if there was an actual non-moron planning the thing. like if the egotistical morons had taken their heads out of their asses and realized that they personally werent hitler 2.0 and reached out to bannon to take charge of the thing i think it would have gone a lot differently if they hadn't been so blatently nazi in their imagery. the media only seemed to disapprove of the torchlit rally, the shield/riot gear and the nazi salutes: they would have covered the event very differently if it was a bunch of black-masked antifa vs a bunch of unarmed white dudes in polo shirts waving the american flag. that said, even if they had managed the optics better at c-ville, there would have been another nazi-rally where things would have gotten violent, and there would have been a similar backlash eventually. the nazis are too delusional to see what they look like to other people and too proud to hide it for long.
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Epic High Five posted:yeah she like grabbed the back of the dudes neck with a vice grip, pulled him toward her, and said something like "wouldn't it be so hot if you talk about gassing me because I'm a Jew" or something, and poor little alt-right boy was immediately catapulted right out his element and into Terror Town this is a joke right? I literally can’t tell
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Apr 21, 2018 08:03
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Pathos posted:this is a joke right? I literally can’t tell look into your heart
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There's p much no way it wasn't going to be heavily protested given the publicity, though if heather meyer hadn't been murdered there they would have killed someone else later on, the whole thing is baying for blood while the cops turn a blind eye. They almost beat a black guy to death in front of the cops, and one of them misfired a gun at a black dude (who was protecting an old white dude), and they've been shooting at blm protests the plan was to kill black thugs and white soyboys, but ooops! they killed someone who looks like your average white suburban woman, and that put the spotlight square on the nazis. the fallback plan was to smear her for being so fat she died of a heart attack, but no one bought that besides the lunatics already in the movement
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Phobophilia posted:They almost beat a black guy to death in front of the cops, and one of them misfired a gun at a black dude (who was protecting an old white dude), and they've been shooting at blm protests it also coincided with the point that the rest of the right was looking for a reason to toss the alt-right aside now that they'd served their usefulness, and WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT...
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Apr 21, 2018 09:35
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"public swearing" seems like a bullshit thing to be arrested for but it couldn't happen to a more worthless chud so whatever
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Apr 21, 2018 11:18
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Phobophilia posted:They almost beat a black guy to death in front of the cops, and one of them misfired a gun at a black dude (who was protecting an old white dude), and they've been shooting at blm protests One misfire (or safety being on or whatever) from the carefully framed on-camera cold-blood shooting of a black guy after shouting “hey n—-“ being the viral thing that would have encapsulated that rally to history. e: not saying that would have been “better” or anything in case that’s how it sounds
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Apr 21, 2018 11:50
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they would have justified it to the gen public with "that black man had a flamethrower (a spray can + lighter)" and it would have worked because george zimmerman could stalk a teenager through a suburb and murder him and every time that pic gets shown the white grandad behind the black guy gets cropped out
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Apr 21, 2018 12:26
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Excuse me, they forgot to call him by his proper name: 'Crying Nazi'.
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That essay is interesting in how it deals with art and fascism but also how people try to not think about propaganda in art. This part caught my interest. Susan Sontag posted:Riefenstahl’s films are still effective because, among other reasons, their longings are still felt, because their content is a romantic ideal to which many continue to be attached, and which is expressed in such diverse modes of cultural dissidence and propaganda for new forms of community as the youth/rock culture, primal therapy, Laing’s antipsychiatry, Third World camp-following, and belief in gurus and the occult. The exaltation of community does not preclude the search for absolute leadership; on the contrary, it may inevitably lead to it. (Not surprisingly, a fair number of the young people now prostrating themselves before gurus and submitting to the most grotesquely autocratic discipline are former anti-authoritarians and anti-elitists of the 1960s.) It brings to mind the popularity of self-improvement among the alt-right and those adjacent with MRA/PUA figures, Cernovich, Molyneux, and Peterson. And even before that with Nathaniel Branden, who was a disciple/lover of Ayn Rand, with the self-esteem movement. Thinking of it as a secular prosperity gospel for nu atheists going alt-right kind of ties things together.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Doesn't that describe a lot of the original nazi upper-crust too? A lot of them were huge dumbasses and flakes (Hess, Rosenberg, Himmler), but some were fairly capable or talented at least within their own spheres (Göring, Goebbels, Speer). In conclusion, National Socialism is a land of contrasts.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a226_story.html wapo actually wrote a decent article about the fall of the alt-right, even quoting a reporter from unicorn riot. of course, it still gives too much column space to alt-right quotes, and takes a quote from identity europa at face value without any other facts, but that's wapo.
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ctrl-f’d for “box” wasn’t disappointed
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So apparently there's another Nazi march today? https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/987720839830425600 https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/987721618200973312
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A lot of them were huge dumbasses and flakes (Hess, Rosenberg, Himmler), but some were fairly capable or talented at least within their own spheres (Göring, Goebbels, Speer). In conclusion, National Socialism is a land of contrasts. Some of them, like Heydrich, would be effortless fit-ins at a wall street office or an sv startup.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Some of them, like Heydrich, would be effortless fit-ins at a wall street office or an sv startup. Yeah, he was basically hard-wired to fit in well anywhere that being a competent, cold-blooded bastard would get you ahead. One wonders how things would have turned out if he hadn't gotten kicked out of the Navy in 31.
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Apr 21, 2018 18:26
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