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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Himuro posted:

Hey guys, is there a general NYC thread at SA so I can ask some questions?
Should be one in either Goon Meets or LAN: Your City Sucks, down at the very bottom of the forums list yes even below Coupons & Deals

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Himuro posted:

Hey guys, is there a general NYC thread at SA so I can ask some questions?

yessir

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Himuro posted:

Hey guys, is there a general NYC thread at SA so I can ask some questions?

yes go to the LAN subforum

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss

Himuro posted:

Hey guys, is there a general NYC thread at SA so I can ask some questions?

If you're asking about visiting like, right now, uh. We're gonna pretty much tell you it's a drat pandemic and don't come here if you don't absolutely have to. A lot of people have died here.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
https://mobile.twitter.com/daveloach2/status/1266782365839392768

Alexpandria Ocasio-Cortez

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Matt Zerella posted:


Alexpandria Ocasio-Cortez

L m f a o

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

lol

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




she was so close to ending racism via animal crossing tho. if only they gave her more time

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

Looool

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Center-left pacifism is so insidious. The idea of people exercising power in a way that isn't institutionally sanctioned breaks their brains, so they construct a narrative that takes all agency away from the groups they claim to be supporting. It's a vile sort of moral masochism, in which having violence done to you is noble and good, and therefore resisting it is bad.

Mechafunkzilla has issued a correction as of 20:02 on May 30, 2020

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1266802090078351362

anotha one!

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
They're Russiagating the protests. It's the exact same impulse -- "Don't worry, people aren't actually going to extreme lengths to demand change, they're just being manipulated by bad actors."

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




60% of america is white still so i dunno how you get anywhere calling white protesters out as bad actors. like if police violence was a black issue sure get upset at interlopers but its sort of an american issue from my perspective.
not sure if slaves were like posting about how selfish abolitionists were but im sure historians can tell us.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Real hurthling! posted:

60% of america is white still so i dunno how you get anywhere calling white protesters out as bad actors. like if police violence was a black issue sure get upset at interlopers but its sort of an american issue from my perspective.
not sure if slaves were like posting about how selfish abolitionists were but im sure historians can tell us.

Might as well say that Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were just privileged Jewish kids from out of town doing protest cosplay.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
The argument that there were anti-BLM undercover provocateurs among the protestors doesn't seem like made-up bullshit. Anecdotally it's been a thing in NYC for awhile.

https://twitter.com/freeyourmindkid/status/1266598693647638528
(Long thread including pics)

https://twitter.com/gypsyeyedbeauty/status/1266164431584714753

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-death-protests-white-arm-bands-new-york-police-a9540036.html

https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1266751535566016515
(thread and replies)

The argument is not that POC are too saintly to riot or that there were no POC involved, the argument is that cops and white supremacists are trying to make protesters and POC look bad. Which should not come as a shock.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Anne Whateley posted:

The argument that there were anti-BLM undercover provocateurs among the protestors doesn't seem like made-up bullshit. Anecdotally it's been a thing in NYC for awhile.

https://twitter.com/freeyourmindkid/status/1266598693647638528
(Long thread including pics)

https://twitter.com/gypsyeyedbeauty/status/1266164431584714753

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-death-protests-white-arm-bands-new-york-police-a9540036.html

https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1266751535566016515
(thread and replies)

The argument is not that POC are too saintly to riot or that there were no POC involved, the argument is that cops and white supremacists are trying to make protesters and POC look bad. Which should not come as a shock.

it's quote tweeting a moron who's promoting a "foreign agent" angle on the protests. people understand what a provocateur is. and if they don't, joy anne Reid is not the person you want educating them on it.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




they have a cop on camera lighting fires: silence

outside people show up in solidarity and multiply the chaos to further strain the police: "this is worse than the cop that did murder (sorry, alleged cop murder. innocent til proven guilty, vote biden)"

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Anne Whateley posted:

The argument that there were anti-BLM undercover provocateurs among the protestors doesn't seem like made-up bullshit. Anecdotally it's been a thing in NYC for awhile.

https://twitter.com/freeyourmindkid/status/1266598693647638528
(Long thread including pics)

https://twitter.com/gypsyeyedbeauty/status/1266164431584714753

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-death-protests-white-arm-bands-new-york-police-a9540036.html

https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1266751535566016515
(thread and replies)

The argument is not that POC are too saintly to riot or that there were no POC involved, the argument is that cops and white supremacists are trying to make protesters and POC look bad. Which should not come as a shock.

Obviously they exist, but focusing on the "agents provocateur" narrative is a concession to frame the discussion on their terms. It's not only not joining with the whole tone of "well of course we all condemn violence of any kind", but it also distracts from the fact that police meeting protesters with batons and barricades (and allowing police-community relations to break down for years and years) is going to escalate things 1000x more than any number of undercovers throwing rocks, and that this is a case of resisting force with force, not of "unprovoked violence".

Mechafunkzilla has issued a correction as of 21:02 on May 30, 2020

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Matt Zerella posted:

it's quote tweeting a moron who's promoting a "foreign agent" angle on the protests.
That does appear to be an actual thing though. If you don't trust POC who were at the protest and you don't trust the governor and mayor and you don't trust established news sources all saying the same thing, idk man, it really seems like you're buying the 4chan line.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Obviously they exist, but focusing on the "agents provocateur" narrative is a concession to frame the discussion on their terms. It's not only not joining with the whole tone of "well of course we all condemn violence of any kind", but it also distracts from the fact that police meeting protesters with batons and barricades (and allowing police-community relations to break down for years and years) is going to escalate things 1000x more than any number of undercovers throwing rocks, and that this is a case of resisting force with force, not of "unprovoked violence".
I agree with that, but not highlighting the outside agents is unfair to the protesters who tried to prevent violence, and it allows unlimited alt-right recruiting talking points of "look what those savages did to their own neighborhoods"

Anne Whateley has issued a correction as of 21:25 on May 30, 2020

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I don't even know where to start with this.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
weird how this is happening all over again. weird.


https://twitter.com/VirtualRuin/status/1266809774315896835

e:

oopsie daisy!


https://mobile.twitter.com/ajinvestigates/status/1266822263489339393?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fforums.somethingawful.com%2f

Matt Zerella has issued a correction as of 21:57 on May 30, 2020

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the state is paying benefits through a bank with only 1 atm in the whole city
:psyduck:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




https://mobile.twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/1266942703369105409?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fforums.somethingawful.com%2f

state senators getting brutalized

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
lmao at cuomo saying "the bank should send texts informing people where other surcharge-free atms are"

no, you dipshit, these cards should just be surcharge free, everywhere, that's what government money can do, eat atm fees

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Maybe we can just get rid of atm fees.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

KomradeX posted:

Maybe we can just get rid of atm fees.

maybe we can get rid of atms. do your part tonight!

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I'm from the Poughkeepsie area so I can get to the city by train, have multiple family members in the city so I can almost definitely find a couch to crash on, and don't have a job because lol plague. Worth it to head down and pitch in with the protests?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




do u want to catch a mace pellet in the face? or be run over?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I dunno maybe it's probably better than sitting around doing nothing

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




knock yourself out its your time

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Real hurthling! posted:

do u want to catch a mace pellet in the face? or be run over?

Hey, don't forget that Covid-19 is still going around, you can catch that too

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1267498311273140224

Why won't anyone talk about the police cares who DIDN'T drive into a crowd?! :qq:

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Absurd Alhazred posted:

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1267498311273140224

Why won't anyone talk about the police cares who DIDN'T drive into a crowd?! :qq:

"What about the good cops" is bad, but don't forget that "there are plenty of peaceful protesters" is also doing a ton of work to delegitimize the anger being expressed. Constructing a narrative in which the only acceptable form of grievance is one that can safely be ignored is an incredibly potent weapon.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/emilyngo/status/1267873270218600448

He better lose that primary.

Edit to say that it seems like he's saying he was misunderstood and was talking about how he's only insisting on speaking because of the primary?

And also for something different: Upstate Republicans:

https://twitter.com/RobertGavinTU/status/1268272532572045312

Thankfully she doesn't seem like she has a chance against Tonko.

Absurd Alhazred has issued a correction as of 22:04 on Jun 3, 2020

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Double-posting for more: rally in Schenectady tonight (thread)

https://twitter.com/bethanybump/status/1268659277025153025

Quebec Bagnet
Apr 28, 2009

mess with the honk
you get the bonk
Lipstick Apathy
Anyone know what the deal is with Adem Bunkeddeko? I've never heard of him until I suddenly started seeing campaign ads a couple of weeks ago. His website certainly sounds good but I know nothing about the guy.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/Gothamist/status/1274079162458877953

Wow, whatever will the fine people of New York City do without these great protectors of public safety?

truavatar
Mar 3, 2004

GIS Jedi
Does anyone know of a compilation of progressive endorsements for NYC primaries? Stuff like county judges, etc.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
Thanks mailman for being way late today and making me drive to find the last open post office to postmark my families' absentee ballots.

I requested ballots fairly early too, I swear they send mail on a ride around the state before delivering it.

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NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
I � Unicode
https://twitter.com/nyscanner/status/1275278080580489217

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