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Three Olives posted:OK can someone please explain to me how the fantasy football questions were so out of line? liberal media
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Mitt Romney posted:How did Trump do? Good: I'm really proud of my company, I've hired thousands of people and nobody on this stage can say that. Bad: Spieled about China in response to TPP subject, was reminded by Rand f'n Paul that China isn't in the TPP and he just wasted his time.
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Ted Cruz is winner of the debate by virtue of recreating one of the most infamous primary political gaffes in American history and getting away with it scot-free.
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Worse, trump even LOOKED stumped.
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MrAristocrates posted:God, the inevitable Clinton/Rubio debate is going to be something to watch. He's going to get absolutely destroyed. Imagine every debate being like Biden v. Ryan. I don't know if I can handle that. memy posted:From 538 How would this graph change if it counted "talking past the bell" as an interruption? I'm guessing Fiorina would be way out in front. Deep Hurting has issued a correction as of 05:45 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Baloogan posted:Also, is kasich more of a commie than sanders? Your Overton window is built on Groverhaus.
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Deep Hurting posted:Imagine every debate being like Biden v. Ryan.
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Xandu posted:There's definitely a balance. Paul came off too sidelined without interpreting, but Kasich and Fiorinia seemed too aggressive. Total Questions: Kasich: 7 Trump: 11 Bush: 9 Rubio: 10 Cruz: 8 Carson: 12 Fiorina: 6 Paul: 9 Total Interruptions: Kasich: 7 Trump: 2 Bush: 4 Rubio: 3 Cruz: 4 Carson: 0 Fiorina: 6 Paul: 1 Q:I Ratio: Kasich: 1 Trump: 5.5 Bush: 2.25 Rubio: 3.33 Cruz: 2 Carson: SYS ERR Fiorina: 1 Paul: 9 I'd say Cruz, Bush and Rubio had the right Q:I ratio.
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Guys, Karl Rove thought Jeb won.
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I still can't deal with Carson wanting to get rid of all deductions. What the gently caress kind of madness is this.
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Deep Hurting posted:Imagine every debate being like Biden v. Ryan. Six hours of "proceed, senator"
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Montasque posted:Guys, Karl Rove thought Jeb won. Are we sure he didn't mean that he thought W could still win the popular vote in 2000?
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How did Trump do? Rove said Trump did well. Take that for what it's worth.
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Montasque posted:Guys, Karl Rove thought Jeb won. The Party won't let Jeb rest until they're good and through with him.
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Montasque posted:How did Trump do? I think he had a clear net positive night. He had two zingers laid on him but by weak candidates (not rubio, not cruz, not carson) and so they didn't matter at all.
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Baloogan posted:Also, is kasich more of a commie than sanders? If Kasich was important enough to get more scrutiny, you'd all see that he's just a run-of-the-mill midwest conservative. He's got plenty in his closet to make him unelectable. He's got to stand on a stage with insane people to appear normal and palatable.
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Rexicon1 posted:Your Overton window is built on Groverhaus. cryptofascist
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XyrlocShammypants posted:I think he had a clear net positive night. He had two zingers laid on him but by weak candidates (not rubio, not cruz, not carson) and so they didn't matter at all. Rand stump'ed him. Trump's entire popularity is based on his unstumpableness. His shield is down!
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Rexicon1 posted:I still can't deal with Carson wanting to get rid of all deductions. What the gently caress kind of madness is this. well you see 10% is good enough for God so
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Montasque posted:Rand stump'ed him. Trump's entire popularity is based on his unstumpableness. His shield is down! I mean he didn't really. I think Trump can wheel around and say China should have been reeled in with a better trade plan or individual trade plan and that's what he meant, not that China was in the TPP.
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also why the gently caress are republicans all about welders all of a sudden
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Mitt Romney posted:How did Trump do? Good: - Stumped Fiorina (The base doesn't really like uppity women, especially when they don't have a leg to stand on.) - Embarassed Kasich, who came off as rude and rambling - Reiterated that he's the strongest anti-immigrant guy out there and Jeb and Kasich, already looking weak as hell, had some half-hearted attacks on him that basically failed - The most focused on CHINA Bad: - Looked genuinely stumped by Rand - Recycling a lot of the same points, but I doubt that that matters too much. His current shtick is working pretty well. - Stumpings were much less severe than usual. Sign of mercy? Overall, not a bad performance but not great. I think Trump knows that he can get away with just saying the same old things until the field narrows down at which point he'll have to do some homework.
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spoon0042 posted:also why the gently caress are republicans all about welders all of a sudden Desperately trying to prove that something can melt steel beams.
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spoon0042 posted:also why the gently caress are republicans all about welders all of a sudden Because a welder's just about the only thing that could get Trump to shut his loving mouth,
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Joementum posted:Desperately trying to prove that something can melt steel beams. 
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The vocational stuff is probably the only thing I agree with any of this poop-people on. Now let's talk about making vocational training not outrageously expensive and provide a decent wage and benefits for said workers.
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spoon0042 posted:also why the gently caress are republicans all about welders all of a sudden It's vague enough to not be the previous manufacturing jobs that used to be available as decent-paying jobs for high school graduates in the US until Republican-style policies were themselves responsible for continually driving everything to a race-to-the-bottom wage issue and thus outsourcing to the 3rd world. The funny thing is, the whole "why do we stigmatize vocational training?" rhetorical question is actually easily answered by the fact that conservatives have for decades degraded its respectability by cutting their benefits and pay by denigrating unions, etc. So these manufacturing jobs were now "quickly-disappearing poor-people labor". Cultural stigma doesn't magically come from nowhere.
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The welder thing is random, but it's just "Plumber 3.0" for this cycle. What I want to know is, what dazzlingly fabulous unicorn's rear end did they pull the goddamned gold standard from in TYOOL 2016?
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Jewel Repetition posted:DID TRUMP WIN no... Hillary won.
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Rexicon1 posted:The vocational stuff is probably the only thing I agree with any of this poop-people on. Republicans will be doing none of those things. That's what makes the whole rhetorical exercise so bad; under the most minute scrutiny, it is their complete unwillingness to back competitive wages for workers at these jobs that their respectability went down the shitter. Tech work has, for now, replaced that field entirely and prettymuch sucked up all the investment and wealth instead. The US doesn't make things anymore, and a lot of it has to do with neoliberal economics.
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Do It Once Right posted:no... TRUMP
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Did anyone do an analysis of how often taxes were discussed tonight because holy poo poo it must have taken up 3/4 of the debate
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Neeksy posted:It's vague enough to not be the previous manufacturing jobs that used to be available as decent-paying jobs for high school graduates in the US until Republican-style policies were themselves responsible for continually driving everything to a race-to-the-bottom wage issue and thus outsourcing to the 3rd world. maybe we should have like free community college or something, idk, just a crazy idea
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nachos posted:Did anyone do an analysis of how often taxes were discussed tonight because holy poo poo it must have taken up 3/4 of the debate Taxes are spooky ghosts that at the same time destroy the world and devour the dreams of our youth.
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nachos posted:Did anyone do an analysis of how often taxes were discussed tonight because holy poo poo it must have taken up 3/4 of the debate Pretty sure they didn't change anything from their tax plans that have already been analyzed. Prettymuch all of them raise the deficit by trillions of dollars, some more than others. I don't know how to quantify the "Let's just get rid of all taxes and abolish the IRS" plans, because they're not even worth putting math towards.
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