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Donnerberg posted:We're still waiting for the Internet to freak out about another Overwatch thing. Ain't they freaking about the new Monkey character?
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A new monkey irritates me, because while I don't mind Winston all that much, I hate all other great apes aside from Orangutans and Baboons.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:11
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RCarr posted:This thread desperately needs a title change. "Stop punching me in the moonbase you loving scientist"?
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Jun 17, 2017 15:30
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i'm like 95% certain there's not going to be another monkey character
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Jun 17, 2017 17:16
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Do many people actually care about those Loot Box things? I got like 30 of them unopened.
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Jun 17, 2017 17:17
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why not just open them then the contents are determined when you get the box so there's no point in sitting on them
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Jun 17, 2017 17:18
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Yaws posted:Do many people actually care about those Loot Box things? I got like 30 of them unopened.  nah people don't care about loot boxes
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Jun 17, 2017 17:19
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Kerrrrrrr posted:i'm like 95% certain there's not going to be another monkey character
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Jun 17, 2017 17:23
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wit posted:That's the same certainty I had that the zarya, bastion and 76 skins were a practical joke and a dig at OW knockoffs. Then they released them. Bastion skin is cool and does not belong in this list 
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Jun 17, 2017 17:24
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one look at the heroes of the storm skins for the overwatch heroes will tell you that it's never a joke
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Jun 17, 2017 17:26
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zarya skin is good and cool
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Jun 17, 2017 17:43
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IronicDongz posted:zarya skin is good and cool It's the number one clown suit in the game. So it all comes down to your preference in clowns. Overwatch: stop stepping on my clown shoes you loving mime Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 18:21
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Donnerberg posted:It's the number one clown suit in the game. I reckon Sombra would make an excellent mime. I know its bastion's gimmick, but a mime fits her style of play; prancing around behind people silently, playing with invisible poo poo and being really annoying.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:17
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wit posted:I reckon Sombra would make an excellent mime. I know its bastion's gimmick, but a mime fits her style of play; prancing around behind people silently, playing with invisible poo poo and being really annoying. And accomplishing nothing useful.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:19
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Maple Leaf posted:re: Orisa is a bad character: WIth the recent tuning buff, blocking straight damage her shield is actually better than Rein's as you don't need to hide around a corner for your shield to recharge. You also use the shield as a longer range Winston bubble to isolate an Ana from healing her teammates. I've also managed to save a few people with hooks and block Earthshatters with the shield but those are like a once every 5 or 6 games type thing. Then again I might just be poo poo 
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Jun 17, 2017 21:12
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Bolow posted:WIth the recent tuning buff, blocking straight damage her shield is actually better than Rein's as you don't need to hide around a corner for your shield to recharge. You also use the shield as a longer range Winston bubble to isolate an Ana from healing her teammates. I've also managed to save a few people with hooks and block Earthshatters with the shield but those are like a once every 5 or 6 games type thing. Then again I might just be poo poo Nah, it's actually real tricky to reactively block an earthshatter with Orisa's shield because it has more delay than Rein's in coming up, you have the projectile launch and then there's a very brief bit where it's "unfurling" after it hits the ground where it won't block the shatter either, so your timing has to be incredibly, almost predictively, precise to pull it off.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:43
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wit posted:I reckon Sombra would make an excellent mime. I know its bastion's gimmick, but a mime fits her style of play; prancing around behind people silently, playing with invisible poo poo and being really annoying. BEEN HERE ALL ALONG
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Jun 17, 2017 21:52
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Kai Tave posted:Nah, it's actually real tricky to reactively block an earthshatter with Orisa's shield because it has more delay than Rein's in coming up, you have the projectile launch and then there's a very brief bit where it's "unfurling" after it hits the ground where it won't block the shatter either, so your timing has to be incredibly, almost predictively, precise to pull it off. It's not that much different from the standard Rein-games you have to play when playing him trying to bait out the shatter. 90% of Earthshatters are about as subtle as a Reaper wraith forming into the middle of 6 people when it comes to telegraphing them. The main problem is the shield cooldown, that and I'm usually focusing on other people that aren't the Rein because my in-game play generally doesn't have me worrying about having to counter play him in a significant manner. Roadhog hook on the other hand basically requires you to position the shield perfectly and see the Roadhog in the process of throwing the hook to actually block it.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:50
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I've been having a lot of fun on solo comping this weekend, maybe the novelty factor of the brawls has either chilled out or occupied the angry shitheels because they seem a little more spread out. I'm also calling this a feature not a bug, but muting team chat just shuts them up, seems I can still type things at them without having to read their replies as people will respond to me on mic when I forget and type at them.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:26
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Kokoro Wish posted:A new monkey irritates me, because while I don't mind Winston all that much, I hate all other great apes aside from Orangutans and Baboons. I hate every ape I see from Chimpan-A to Chimpanzee.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:56
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I will say that the recent buff to Orisa's shield cooldown is a pretty big deal; since when aggressively deployinga the shield, I find that the cooldown is over more often than not as the shield is about to break. If it breaks well before my cooldown is up, I Fortify and try to get to cover so I don't get CC'd or otherwise picked before I get away. She's easily my favorite hero right now, so I'm clearly biased about her relative power, and even still I do think she's still on a weak side. I agree that she's a jack-of-all-trades hero, which in a competitive setting, is not necessarily a desirable identity.
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Jun 18, 2017 03:51
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I just wish that the m1 was hitscan everything else in orissa's kit is fun
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Jun 18, 2017 05:07
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I started playing OW again (hadn't played since Orisa was added) and I honestly didn't get the impression she's weak at all. It's kinda funny because when I wasn't playing I saw complaints she was too strong but maybe that was an earlier version of the hero.
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Jun 18, 2017 10:27
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I started playing OW again (hadn't played since Orisa was added) and I honestly didn't get the impression she's weak at all. It's kinda funny because when I wasn't playing I saw complaints she was too strong but maybe that was an earlier version of the hero. Pros: Can keep a shield at least as often as Rein, has a decent ult if your team can take advantage of it, can get some heckin' boops Cons: Melts like an ice cube in a blast furnace to even a marginally competent team with flankers, deals a laughably poor amount of damage, is fully boned if the enemy team "attacks from two directions at once", one of the slowest things in the game Overall: Situational but usable
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Jun 18, 2017 13:35
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To be honest I feel like "the hero people use if rein is needed but no one wants to play rein" is a perfectly ok place for a hero to be in. Plenty of people including me just don't find rein fun, but now if I'm in a game that clearly needs a tank I have one that I can play that I actually enjoy playing. It might not get her anywhere in high level comp where people are chasing the best meta but most of us aren't those people. Not that I'll object if her damage or her ult gets a nice boost, mind you.
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Orisa's the first tank who can create barriers AND has a ranged weapon, which is legitimately nice to have in the roster. I'm not real big on melee-range fighting in an FPS, so when my team wants/needs a shield tank I like having an option that can do the shooty shooty pow pow and such.
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Jun 18, 2017 15:16
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I wonder if Orisa would actually be good if she was hitscan. She'd certainly be decent, at least.
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Jun 18, 2017 15:22
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I like Orisa for point defense. Rein is better for pushing but it's nice to have someone who can shield the choke whose offensive contributions, while modest, don't depend on charging out of position. It's not like Rein is substantially less boned if he comes under fire from multiple directions either. Even in the best case scenarios you've effectively taken his shield out of the picture as he switches to melee or retreats to a more defensible position.
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Theta Zero posted:I wonder if Orisa would actually be good if she was hitscan. She'd certainly be decent, at least. With the damage and RoF she has now, she'd be pretty nuts.
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Jun 18, 2017 15:34
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Theta Zero posted:I wonder if Orisa would actually be good if she was hitscan. She'd certainly be decent, at least. E: at my poo poo low plat/high gold tier.
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Jeza posted:With the damage and RoF she has now, she'd be pretty nuts. orisa has the lowest dps in the game so idk about that. she'll be able to finish kills a lot easier tho; I have people with a sliver of health round a corner all the time when I'm orisa and hitscan would help with that
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Jun 18, 2017 18:22
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She'd be OP as poo poo with a hitscan weapon. They'd probably need to take another 50 rounds out of the magazine and give her McCree levels of fall off damage before that even remotely approached the same post code as balanced.
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Manatee Cannon posted:orisa has the lowest dps in the game so idk about that. she'll be able to finish kills a lot easier tho; I have people with a sliver of health round a corner all the time when I'm orisa and hitscan would help with that Consider it like this: Orisa has 132 DPS at all ranges with no falloff, and 150 bullets in a clip. Soldier:76 has, with zero falloff, 167 DPS with 25 bullets in a clip. Obviously with falloff that drops off pretty precipitously. Plus her spread is fairly tight and never increases.
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Jun 18, 2017 18:57
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soldier was one of the worst heroes in overwatch when he had like 2 less damage than he does right now
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Jun 18, 2017 19:02
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Make it hitscan but with a damage ramp up time and spread ramp down time. So if she can hold LMB for like 8 whole seconds she gets a murder beam but otherwise it's completely worse than it is now. Less peakaboo and more rambo.
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Jun 18, 2017 19:06
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Manatee Cannon posted:soldier was one of the worst heroes in overwatch when he had like 2 less damage than he does right now 2 less damage per bullet. That drops his dps from just shy of 167 dps to 149 dps, and before the recent minor nerf it was 175dps. That's a big goddamn jump, not even factoring headshots.
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Jun 18, 2017 19:12
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per bullet is what I meant, yea don't get me wrong, orisa'd see a huge jump if they made her histcan and changed nothing else, but people are way overstating it
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Jun 18, 2017 19:17
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I don't think they'll ever make a rapidfire hitscan weapon with no damage falloff.
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Jun 18, 2017 19:24
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what is sombras dps? it has to be lower than orisa's right?
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It's 160, so quite a bit higher. It does have falloff though.
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