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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Xelkelvos posted:

Idk if there was any intermediate class of ship that was in canon at the time for that though. Basically the ships went from single-person fighters, ships big enough for a small crew, cargo ships (when including cargo space), then Star Destroyers of various sizes.

Are you counting the Arquitens as Star Destroyers?

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The Arquitens and Gozanti got used a fair bit in Rebels (and the Gozanti in Clonw Wars), plus there were the smaller Interdictors, that pyramidal cargo ship, and the Light Carrier.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

BooDooBoo posted:

The best part was seeing Chopper, The Ghost, and a shout-out to Hera up on the big screen. I was SO excited when that happened.

The tie-in to Rebels was the only time they've got it right, episode about hammerships being good at ramming stuff, then show it in the movie too?

I'm gonna go watch Rogue One again.

Wait, there’s a Rebels cameo in Rouge One? When does it happen?

Also is The Ghost one of the ships that shows up to help in ROS?

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Larryb posted:

Wait, there’s a Rebels cameo in Rouge One? When does it happen?

Also is The Ghost one of the ships that shows up to help in ROS?

Chopper shows up rolling through a shot on Yavin, the Ghost is seen parked there and IIRC then again later with the fleet at Scarif, and while at Yavin in the background the PA is calling for General Syndulla at one point.

And I believe the Ghost also shows up among the many ships in TRoS too, yeah.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Chopper rolls by while an Alliance communications technician tells Mon Mothma that he intercepted imperial transmissions about the ground battle on Scarif.

The Ghost - iirc - is also in Rogue One during the space battle over Scarif.

I completely missed the Hera reference, so maybe someone with sharper eyes caught it?

e:fb

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Neat, I only watched Rebels for the first time a little while after I saw the movie. Guess I’ll have to watch Rogue One again sometime.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Vinylshadow posted:

Blowing up light cruisers that only come with 2-4 TIE escorts is fine, but (active) Star Destroyers should've been the "oh gently caress we need to get out of here yesterday" threat, and we got a little of that with Thrawn, at least

This exact thing happens in Rebels when they go to get the Rebel Admiral's kid flying around in a Dash Rengar's ship playing Freedom Fighter against Arquitens, but when the kids try to pull the same tricks with an actual Star Destroyer it doesn't go well at all.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Arquitens and Gozanti got used a fair bit in Rebels (and the Gozanti in Clonw Wars), plus there were the smaller Interdictors, that pyramidal cargo ship, and the Light Carrier.

The interdictor was small in the old EU, but the one in Rebels was pretty much SD-sized.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Larryb posted:

Neat, I only watched Rebels for the first time a little while after I saw the movie. Guess I’ll have to watch Rogue One again sometime.

Something called 'Canon Chronicler' has a video up with all of the Ghost appearances highlighted. (Discussion of what is and is not canon in a universe used to eat up so many days, OMG)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAaoNIagtrM

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Moon Slayer posted:

Also brought a smile to my face that the episode that features two large monsters punching each other was named "Rampage" :v:

The 2018 movie with The Rock is the only good American-made kaiju movie, come at me.

Okay. Pacific Rim.

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

Desperado Bones posted:

I think the only things you can skip are some droid centered episodes, and "the sisters" arc in season 7.

Im going to go ahead and say that while the 4 episode droid centric story is extremely boring, the explosion at the end is 100% totally worth it.

TCW has some absolutely beautiful moments.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

"Missing in Action" is worth a watch for Gregor alone, yes

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Apart from the B-Wing with the magic cannon, I think most of the Star Destroyers they blew up on Rebels, were from sabotaging stuff on the inside.

Like the power and shield generators with their raised walkways with no railings and anyone falling off causes the ship to blow up.

I thought the B-Wing only took out an Arquitens or two. Those aren't Star Destroyers at all.


That said, it does make sense that Alliance forces can, in the right circumstances, tackle and destroy Imperial starships, even the big ones.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Arquitens and Gozanti got used a fair bit in Rebels (and the Gozanti in Clonw Wars), plus there were the smaller Interdictors, that pyramidal cargo ship, and the Light Carrier.
There is also a blink and you'll miss it Dreadnaught in Thrawn's fleet.

Madurai posted:

The interdictor was small in the old EU, but the one in Rebels was pretty much SD-sized.
It's somewhere between ISD and Arquitens sized, trending larger.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007


Pacific Rim is a fighter pilot/military movie in a setting with giant monsters. The monsters don't fight one another, ergo: not a kaiju movie. It's real good, though.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Arquinsiel posted:

There is also a blink and you'll miss it Dreadnaught in Thrawn's fleet.

Okay now I need to look that up, cause I didn’t catch it.

Arquinsiel posted:

It's somewhere between ISD and Arquitens sized, trending larger.

I don’t know how big an Arquitens is off hand, or how big the Interdictor is in the show, but IIRC they were supposed to be about a third of the size of an ISD in the old EU, but as with a lot of stuff, I imagine sources varied on that on a bi

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I'm about ten-ish episodes into Rebels right now and really enjoying it and while I stress it's not a deal breaker how much does the show focus on Kanan/Ezra attempting Jedi things?

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Dawgstar posted:

I'm about ten-ish episodes into Rebels right now and really enjoying it and while I stress it's not a deal breaker how much does the show focus on Kanan/Ezra attempting Jedi things?

The tenth episode is the last one, I think. Yeah, out of a season already too long than it could have been, that part stretched out especially, like the Clone Wars episodes with Yoda going on a vision quest to learn how to appear as a Force ghost after death. I think when episodes stretch out, sometimes it might be because of the nature of having to arbitrarily stretch out self-contained plots to a certain runtime.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jun 2, 2021

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




fartknocker posted:

Okay now I need to look that up, cause I didn’t catch it.
I don’t know how big an Arquitens is off hand, or how big the Interdictor is in the show, but IIRC they were supposed to be about a third of the size of an ISD in the old EU, but as with a lot of stuff, I imagine sources varied on that on a bi

Apparently it's Gozanti 63m, Arquitens 325m, Interdictor 1100m, ISD 1600m

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Moon Slayer posted:

Pacific Rim is a fighter pilot/military movie in a setting with giant monsters. The monsters don't fight one another, ergo: not a kaiju movie. It's real good, though.

Ridiculous gatekeeping. Which giant monster did Godzilla fight in his first movie?

Speaking of Kaiju, did anything come from the Zillobeast? Palp seemed interested in the light Saber resistant armor. Did any media cover that?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The Chimera having a giant bit of imposing artwork on the bottom is a great choice.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Also I liked how Rebels managed to get a lot of actors from the movies back as guest stars (such as Billy Dee Williams, Frank Oz, James Earl Jones, and I think even Ian McDiarmid reprised his role as Palpatine for a few episodes near the end)

VaultAggie
Nov 18, 2010

Best out of 71?

NTRabbit posted:

Apparently it's Gozanti 63m, Arquitens 325m, Interdictor 1100m, ISD 1600m

Arquitens is what Gideon was rocking, right? I liked the smaller scale, with even a small ship like that being a lethal threat.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Larryb posted:

Also I liked how Rebels managed to get a lot of actors from the movies back as guest stars (such as Billy Dee Williams, Frank Oz, James Earl Jones, and I think even Ian McDiarmid reprised his role as Palpatine for a few episodes near the end)

They also had Ian redub an earlier Emperor scene in season 2

Yet they use Witwer's dub for Disney+ and the only place with Ian is on Amazon Prime

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Out of curiosity, why was Ian able to come back for Rebels but not for Clone Wars?

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Larryb posted:

Out of curiosity, why was Ian able to come back for Rebels but not for Clone Wars?

No idea but I'm guessing that Disney offered him a fuckton of money to do it. Figure that's why James Earl Jones came back to voice Vader for Rebels.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Burning_Monk posted:

Ridiculous gatekeeping. Which giant monster did Godzilla fight in his first movie?

Speaking of Kaiju, did anything come from the Zillobeast? Palp seemed interested in the light Saber resistant armor. Did any media cover that?

Or that Gojira fighting Mechagojira isn't Kaiju half the time!

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Palatine is only in a handful of episodes of Rebels too.

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Moon Slayer posted:

Pacific Rim is a fighter pilot/military movie in a setting with giant monsters. The monsters don't fight one another, ergo: not a kaiju movie. It's real good, though.

Under these criteria the original Godzilla is not a kaiju movie.

Also, THEM! was one of the best American kaiju movies.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Original Godzilla - not a kaiju movie.

Original Kong - Kaiju out the wazoo.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Original Godzilla - not a kaiju movie.

Original Kong - Kaiju out the wazoo.

:hmmyes:

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

By the way I started binging Clone Wars and I love this dumb poo poo

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

mdemone posted:

By the way I started binging Clone Wars and I love this dumb poo poo

Clone Wars is really good and it's both surprising and unsurprising it turned out so well. Surprising because the Tartakovsky Clone Wars was still in peoples' memories and this seemed like an affornt to it by a certain type of grog. It didn't help that there were definitely some episodes in the first season that were ultimatley unnecessary and involved characters no one really liked. But when it hit, it hit and it kept hitting it out of the park.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

The Tartakovsky Clone Wars show is still worth watching though right (I’ve only ever seen the CG one)? Also are there any elements that the later show borrowed from the earlier one?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Larryb posted:

The Tartakovsky Clone Wars show is still worth watching though right (I’ve only ever seen the CG one)? Also are there any elements that the later show borrowed from the earlier one?

Ventress originated in the old 2D show, plus Obi-Wan's most iconic war-time look of armor-over-robes. Durge is also slated to turn back up in some comics pretty soon, so that's neat.

Both "volumes" of the show back-to-back are about the length of one theatrical film, so its absolutely worth a watch for the moderate time investment it demands.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Larryb posted:

The Tartakovsky Clone Wars show is still worth watching though right (I’ve only ever seen the CG one)? Also are there any elements that the later show borrowed from the earlier one?

It's still worth watching since it's a great and stylistic 2D set of shorts. The big thing they did was establish Grievous as this monstrous Jedi hunting monster that the movie just turns into a robotic asthmatic and the CG Clone Wars series filling in the gaps. They are/were both canon too iirc, but the original was made based on what existed from the first two prequel movies iirc while the latter had all three to work within.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Larryb posted:

The Tartakovsky Clone Wars show is still worth watching though right (I’ve only ever seen the CG one)? Also are there any elements that the later show borrowed from the earlier one?

A lot of newer works have sprinkled in references to the microseries, like the Battle of Hypori from the end of volume 1 getting referenced, and Shaak Ti's mentioned as the one protecting the chancellor during the Siege of Mandalore

Definitely worth a watch regardless though

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Is there voice acting in the 2D series or is it mostly just a series of action scenes? And if there is, how is it?

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Some of the episodes are more silent than others, but there is some decent voice work and you get to see Anakin eat bugs in front of Obi-Wan.

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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
It's short enough to be worth a watch and there are some fun action scenes, but it is extremely cartoonish in places so don't expect even CG Clone Wars levels of "realism".

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