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I laughed way too hard at the extremely minor joke they did with Bats' real name.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I don't think this is gonna be a thing. Shaun of the Dead didn't inspire a wave of Shauns or Eds, and Hot Fuzz didn't inspire a wave of Nicks or Dannies. Those were already names. 'Baby' is a new one. Edgar Wright has accidentally expanded the Acceptable Name Threshold. It won't even necessarily be people who loved this movie; it will be people who have vaguely heard of it and thought 'oh, what a good name for a baby, specifically this baby, MY baby!'
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Jul 13, 2017 02:25
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I really doubt "Baby" would be harder to live with than "Khaleesi"
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Jul 13, 2017 02:48
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I read social worker files for a job, and I've come across a couple of kids named Baby. It's not common or anything, but it's not quite non-existent.
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Jul 13, 2017 03:05
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precision posted:The final act was a total shock, especially Spacey actually showing that the real reason he keeps Baby around is that he loves him like a son I didn't really understand that. How could he love him like a son and also threaten to break his legs? It's obvious that Doc has some affection for Baby but I never understood the nature of it. I wondered if Doc was gay and had some romantic feelings for him but no intention on acting on them. All of the other main characters' sexualities were made explicitly clear. I think the closest Doc came was saying "I was in love once," which obviously doesn't specify a gender. Did I go to the bathroom and miss a dialog that made his paternal feelings clear? I'm not saying this is literally true, just that I found his motivations ambiguous and I never really worked them out. Also, regarding the gloves: Was their only purpose to be discarded in a washing-blood-off-his-hands visual metaphor?
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Jul 13, 2017 03:34
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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You don’t send someone you love like a son out to risk his neck repeatedly against his will. Doc probably appreciated the fact Baby was a professional and he was consistent. Like how a McDonald’s manager appreciates the fry guy who never calls out. All the ‘good’ things Doc did at the end were because Doc didn’t think he was in danger. He was in control right up to the end. Also his day job’s a music producer and he was impressed by Baby’s sick beat.
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Jul 13, 2017 03:53
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Doc is that one coworker/ manager that thinks that just because you are cordial at work and do projects well together means that you're automatically best friends outside of the office.
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Jul 13, 2017 04:06
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So Jon Bernthal was basically just playing The Punisher in this again, huh? Seriously, it's almost the exact same performance, and I am not at all saying this as a complaint because I am okay with that performance being in literally everything
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Jul 13, 2017 06:13
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I don't think this is gonna be a thing. Shaun of the Dead didn't inspire a wave of Shauns or Eds, and Hot Fuzz didn't inspire a wave of Nicks or Dannies. Shaun of the Dead - $19m Hot Fuzz - $30m Baby Driver - $61m (so far) You can't really compare them since this is already a much bigger success so should have a much bigger influence. I only say this because I think it would be hilarious to have a decent number of 50+ year olds too embarrassed to give people their first name someday.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:01
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"Grandpa Baby"
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Jul 13, 2017 18:05
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Colonel Whitey posted:"Grandpa Baby" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIA2sGSTABs
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Jul 13, 2017 19:18
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Regarding Spacey at the end: I got the impression that Baby and Debora were being set up as "the next Buddy and Monica" and that Baby realizing this was what made him want to do the time instead of running. This ties into Doc because as I see it, Doc's threat to Baby wasn't entirely genuine; it was a pantomime that allowed Baby to think he had no choice but to do the super awesome crime thing that he had started to like. His aversion to the realities of the violence surrounding his crimes hinted that he'd Break Good in the end, but it wasn't until he realized that he could all too easily "become" Buddy that he realized the only way he'd get out is owning up to everything.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:06
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At the risk of starting up this whole discussion again, here's the entire first scene of the movie (uploaded by Sony so it's legit). The alley 180-180 is cut differently from the trailer, there's a cutaway to Jon Hamm after the first shot, which bridges the time gap between that and the cut to him coming out of the last 180. I think this helps make it even more coherent, but folks might disagree, I dunno, whatever. I'm not interested in discussing this again, just thought people might want to see for themselves. Also the scene is loving cool and now you can watch it on repeat until you die from dehydration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtZ_Zat3Ag8
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Jul 13, 2017 22:10
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I loving love the way they incorporated Baby's tinnitus into the movie's score, and I love that it's basically the first sound you hear. I also love Baby's wordless journey from  to     and back to in the span of like a minute.
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Jul 13, 2017 23:09
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Colonel Whitey posted:At the risk of starting up this whole discussion again, here's the entire first scene of the movie (uploaded by Sony so it's legit). The alley 180-180 is cut differently from the trailer, there's a cutaway to Jon Hamm after the first shot, which bridges the time gap between that and the cut to him coming out of the last 180. I think this helps make it even more coherent, but folks might disagree, I dunno, whatever. I'm not interested in discussing this again, just thought people might want to see for themselves. Also the scene is loving cool and now you can watch it on repeat until you die from dehydration. Thank you. I feel that moment is good, but there are better moments in that sequence, like at 3:08 when Berenthal looks at baby, and you can see the white stripes on baby's glasses. The switcheroo with the 2 other red cars was brilliant, as well as the camera move when it exits the ramp at 3:35 as he does an almost uturn across the frame.
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Jul 13, 2017 23:42
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So did the spike strip not knock out one tire or was Baby using runflat tires or something? And no one seems in the least bit concerned about fingerprints.
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Krispy Kareem posted:So did the spike strip not knock out one tire or was Baby using runflat tires or something? Everyone but Baby was wearing gloves, and Baby's fingerprints are meaningless because he's not in any criminal databases because he's never been caught. 
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Jul 14, 2017 02:41
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Has someone here explained why Baby said "yes" to doing the last job after Kevin Spacey was ready to call it off? He was planning on leaving that night so why not just say he wasn't gonna do it then leave in peace? Also my brother saw Ansel Elgort a couple years ago in a Games Workshop painting Warhammer figures
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Jul 14, 2017 21:20
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Has someone here explained why Baby said "yes" to doing the last job after Kevin Spacey was ready to call it off? He was planning on leaving that night so why not just say he wasn't gonna do it then leave in peace? When Spacey was saying he was going to take Baby home, Bats jumps in and offers to drive him instead. If Baby fucks up the job, there's about a 99.9% chance Bats is going to murder him for loving up his robbery. Same reason why Buddy goes along with his story regarding the gun deal, they both know that pissing off Bats has only one outcome.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:46
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Crappy Jack posted:When Spacey was saying he was going to take Baby home, Bats jumps in and offers to drive him instead. If Baby fucks up the job, there's about a 99.9% chance Bats is going to murder him for loving up his robbery. Same reason why Buddy goes along with his story regarding the gun deal, they both know that pissing off Bats has only one outcome. Thats what I figured, but I felt it was a pretty weak explanation. Kevin Spacey wouldn't want Bats to kill his #1 driver, so I feel like Baby could have just brought that up to Kevin Spacey either right then or in private later. Baby is planning on ditching anyway and its unlikely that Bats would murder him right then and there with 4 people against him. Baby could decline the job then say he isn't going to go with Bats because he doesn't trust him. Baby's motivation sort of makes sense, but you could come up with several ways to potentially get out of that situation without dying nor agreeing to the job I guess I just wasn't too fond of the last half of the movie. The antagonist changes 3 times, and the final scene in the parking garage is a letdown considering how good the prior car chases had been. SpiritOfSanDimas fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 22:02
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Even if he got out of that situation alive, he'd have still pissed off Bats. The man who murders a lot for no particular reason.
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I get that, but he was planning on pissing off Kevin Spacey by just hitting the open road that very night. Also he was trying to sneak out that night which would have pissed off Bats anyway! His plan had always been to just run away from it all, regardless of who he pissed off Also, if Baby let Kevin Spacey know that Bats had killed his crooked cops, presumably Kevin Spacey could have Bats killed Anyway I liked the movie alot, but I think it might have been better served not doing the 3 villain switch and keeping it a little more straightforward SpiritOfSanDimas fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 22:35
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Has someone here explained why Baby said "yes" to doing the last job after Kevin Spacey was ready to call it off? He was planning on leaving that night so why not just say he wasn't gonna do it then leave in peace? I think he kinda wants to do the crime & not let down his crime dads. He has too many outs that he doesn't take. Hat Thoughts fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 23:31
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:
That makes me like him a lot more for some reason
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Coffee And Pie posted:That makes me like him a lot more for some reason He apparently won multiple Golden Demon awards for his miniatures back when he was a teenager. Other celebrities I just learned were into Warhammer; Ed Sheeran and Robin Williams.
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Spergatory posted:He apparently won multiple Golden Demon awards for his miniatures back when he was a teenager. Neither of those surprise me. Robin Williams named his daughter after the Legend of Zelda.
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I feel like a loving idiot. I thought Buddy was Jon Bernthal and kept doing a double take when people were talking about Jon Hamm in here. Turns out Bernthal played someone completely different.  Also I really have no idea how to feel about Ansel Elgort. His physicality and mannerisms are great in this (his drumming along and lipsyncing to Bellbottoms was adorable) but whenever he opens his mouth he nearly sinks the movie outright.
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Jul 15, 2017 17:14
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I feel like a loving idiot. I thought Buddy was Jon Bernthal and kept doing a double take when people were talking about Jon Hamm in here. Turns out Bernthal played someone completely different. Berenthal and Hamm are literally the first non-Baby faces you see and they have very similar haircuts. I get it.
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Jul 15, 2017 19:26
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That actually makes my earlier statement really hilarious, because Jon Bernthal basically reusing his Daredevil performance would be one thing, but Jon Hamm giving an incredibly similar performance in a movie where the actor he's seemingly riffing on appears is some next-level poo poo.
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Jul 15, 2017 21:28
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Not that I have any beef with this, Buddy owned.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:That actually makes my earlier statement really hilarious, because Jon Bernthal basically reusing his Daredevil performance would be one thing, but Jon Hamm giving an incredibly similar performance in a movie where the actor he's seemingly riffing on appears is some next-level poo poo. I haven't watched the show so I was so confused when you said that, like I thought they made Daredevil a violent lech.
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Jul 15, 2017 21:46
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:I guess I just wasn't too fond of the last half of the movie. The antagonist changes 3 times, and the final scene in the parking garage is a letdown considering how good the prior car chases had been. Same, this movie seemed like it was better than the antagonist-becomes-the-terminator cliche it turns into. Based on some lines changing from the trailer I wonder if they had a different end sequence lined up originally? Also I was super pumped when Radar Love started playing, but then they didn't use it for a sweet chase! Come on!
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So it's comfortably overtaken Hot Fuzz as Wright's most successful movie and will cross the $100m fairly soon. Although interestingly in the UK box office it's not even in the same league as Hot Fuzz ($40m), has a way to to go to Shaun ($12m) or World's End ($13m), but has matched Pilgrim ($8m). Sterling isn't what is was, post brexit...
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Jul 18, 2017 22:06
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It's by far his least British film. I mean sure Scott Pilgrim is set in Canada but Canada has the same queen as Britain so it's basically the same country.
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All the British people I know are super down on this movie for, yep, being "too American".
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Coffee And Pie posted:Neither of those surprise me. Robin Williams named his daughter after the Legend of Zelda. Billy Crystal too. He and Williams used to play when they were shooting together and weren't needed in set.
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Jul 19, 2017 06:34
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precision posted:All the British people I know are super down on this movie for, yep, being "too American". Do those people only go to see British films or something?
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Jul 19, 2017 08:31
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Do those people only go to see British films or something? No, I think it's kind of like they think he's sold out a little bit.
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Jul 19, 2017 08:45
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precision posted:No, I think it's kind of like they think he's sold out a little bit. THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM ROUND HERE!
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precision posted:All the British people I know are super down on this movie for, yep, being "too American". I've not heard a single person say that.
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