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hatty posted:the hardest section for me was the vine whip one, everything else was manageable yeah I barely used the vine whip at all during my playthrough so I’d pretty much forgotten how it works at that point
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Anyway I'm proud to say I will not be playing that level again J/k I did it as Nabbit because that little freak cannot feel pain
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Oct 30, 2023 19:59
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Color Printer posted:My issue with this is sometimes it does not want to emote or blow up the item balloon and I don't know specifically what causes it. An easier way to do this is to add a second local player once you get to the invis section. The first player has a crown icon over them that's always visible, so you don't need to mash emote. Have one of the players be a Yoshi and the other player can ride them so you only need to control the Yoshi. Note you need to be offline or the game won't let you change player count mid-level.
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Oct 31, 2023 01:01
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your character leaves behind a white trail whenever they bounce off something or do a midair twirl, just use that to see where you are
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Oct 31, 2023 05:04
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I can't check right now but can you move while holding the emoticon menu open?
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Oct 31, 2023 13:28
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Nope. Also you can’t emote if you’re holding the Y button
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Oct 31, 2023 13:42
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I beat Bowser last night. This might change based on the special world and the other levels I skipped but right now I would put this behind World, Yoshi's Island and NSMBU as my favorite 2D Marios. I could see it topping NSMBU because I thought this was the best boss world in a Mario game, it just felt significantly more creative and fun than the rest of the game which I already enjoyed.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:25
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100%ed it today. Short but very fun. I thought the invisibility part in the last challenge wasn't as bad as the spring jump.
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Oct 31, 2023 19:50
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Spring jump was by far the most frustrating. I'm definitely bad at games though. I also wound up cheesing the invisibility one by having my hori joy cons turbo spam the emote button because gently caress those blomps at the end. If it was just a small flat platform it would be one thing, but you can hit those things at a bad angle and be hosed. I definitely got to the point where I was cruise controlling the run/spin/vine levels leading up to it though.
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Oct 31, 2023 21:53
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MassRafTer posted:I beat Bowser last night. This might change based on the special world and the other levels I skipped but right now I would put this behind World, Yoshi's Island and NSMBU as my favorite 2D Marios. I could see it topping NSMBU because I thought this was the best boss world in a Mario game, it just felt significantly more creative and fun than the rest of the game which I already enjoyed. drat, NSMBU over Wonder? I would agree with your top 2 but I'd reverse NSMBU and Wonder for me. The latter is just too charming, but I'm also biased after years of the 2D mario series looking the same. (I feel the need to say that I still think NSMBU is a fantastic game!!)
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Nov 1, 2023 02:07
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I think NSMBU is very clearly a better platformer than Wonder. Wonder, as a game, is very clearly interested in doing something other than serving up interesting Mario levels. It barely even explores the badge mechanics that could each sustain ~a world each, because it's just not what the game is interested in. It's fun and creative and incredibly charming, but I feel like five years from now if I want to replay a Mario, I'll pull out U before I pull out Wonder.
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Nov 1, 2023 02:39
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That is very fair and not much I can argue against, especially considering I just bought a copy of U Deluxe to play on my Switch, because I hate using the Wii U.
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Nov 1, 2023 02:43
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think NSMBU is very clearly a better platformer than Wonder. Wonder, as a game, is very clearly interested in doing something other than serving up interesting Mario levels. It barely even explores the badge mechanics that could each sustain ~a world each, because it's just not what the game is interested in. It's fun and creative and incredibly charming, but I feel like five years from now if I want to replay a Mario, I'll pull out U before I pull out Wonder. Yeah, I would agree with this. NSMBU is super refined Mario platforming and I love Mario platforming. Wonder is really really fun but something about it doesn't cause me to want to play huge chunks of it at once. Maybe I'll get sucked in on a replay, but as it is, I don't know if I'll feel the urge to speed run it like World or U or just fall completely in love with it like Yoshi's Island
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Nov 1, 2023 04:06
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Going back through some levels to satisfy my remaining completionist urges and noticing how often you can absolutely bound through to get to the one remaining purple coin or perfected flag jump. Smooth speedrunning design, I guess?
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Nov 1, 2023 04:56
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Okay I got all royal seeds, just about finished with the game!
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Wonder feels like the #1 question on the design whiteboard was "How do we now make a 2D Mario game that could not possibly be significantly replicated in Mario Maker" which leads to a lot of incredible creativity and fun but the core Mario platforming does get a little bit lost in the chaos of hundreds of new ideas. I'm still loving it (not at the end yet, had a busy few weeks) but I'd agree that something like U or World is what I'm more likely to go back to in future when I'm specifically looking to scratch a Mario platforming itch
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Nov 2, 2023 16:01
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One thing that struck me is the sheer number of enemies and obstacles that only appear for one level. I'd kind of love a Mario game that took alot of these elements and mixed them up more thoroughly through the game, like the birds that shoot temporary platforms out of their beaks or thr little assholes who kick objects at you have potential but aeem to appear precisely once and don't get any elaboration on how they could be used in levels
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Nov 2, 2023 16:13
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Raylax posted:"How do we now make a 2D Mario game that could not possibly be significantly replicated in Mario Maker" There's at least one level that is effectively a better version of a Mario Maker I (and many other people) made (in a way that couldn't actually be replicated in Mario Maker). That level concept is "There are a bunch of platforms you have to ride, but uh, oh, enemies keep getting dropped onto them!"
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Nov 2, 2023 16:17
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then we get Mario Wondermaker, and then they gotta make a new Mario that can't be made in THAT, and then
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Nov 2, 2023 18:14
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Finished Mario Wonder last night. Ready for a new 3D Mario now, please.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:then we get Mario Wondermaker, and then they gotta make a new Mario that can't be made in THAT, and then Misread that as "Mario Widowmaker" and that would be a very different game. Mario all running an asbestos removal company, not providing adequate PPE for his staff.
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BrokenLink posted:Those respawn if you game over, alternatively you can just do the jet boots 1 stage, gets you 13-ish coins fairly quickly.
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Nov 4, 2023 05:02
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Flint_Paper posted:Misread that as "Mario Widowmaker" and that would be a very different game. Mario all running an asbestos removal company, not providing adequate PPE for his staff. That goomba was serene because he was thinking of his wife
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getting pretty close to finishing all teh courses, won't do all the coins and top of poles since there's a Like A Dragon dropping this very same week. Very nervous about the jumping to the beat one in the special world!! I fluked it once and got to the end but without the wonder seed!! and I know i'll need to get that seed to see the final course!!!
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Nov 4, 2023 22:44
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MorningMoon posted:getting pretty close to finishing all teh courses, won't do all the coins and top of poles since there's a Like A Dragon dropping this very same week. Very nervous about the jumping to the beat one in the special world!! I fluked it once and got to the end but without the wonder seed!! and I know i'll need to get that seed to see the final course!!! I dunno if we’re doing spoilers about this kinda thing but just in case You need all those coins and poles you said you weren’t getting to see the final-final course
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I said come in! posted:Finished Mario Wonder last night. Ready for a new 3D Mario now, please. I'm going through 3D World right now, and I'm not loving it. I've died so many times because of the camera angles. The first 3D Mario I played was Odyssey, and it's so much better than this.
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Nov 5, 2023 02:39
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Tokelau All Star posted:I'm going through 3D World right now, and I'm not loving it. I've died so many times because of the camera angles. 3D World is basically a 2D platformer style translated into 3D, instead of the more puzzle/discovery (but still platformer heavy) style of most "3D Marios". I think it's still very fun and it has a phenomenal soundtrack, probably the best one since Galaxy.
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Tender Bender posted:3D World is basically a 2D platformer style translated into 3D, instead of the more puzzle/discovery (but still platformer heavy) style of most "3D Marios". I think it's still very fun and it has a phenomenal soundtrack, probably the best one since Galaxy. It's such a fun game and especially so in four player.
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Tokelau All Star posted:I'm going through 3D World right now, and I'm not loving it. I've died so many times because of the camera angles. Odyssey is my favorite Mario game.
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MassRafTer posted:It's such a fun game and especially so in four player. They should make another game in the 3D Land/World series honestly (I kind of like the standard “get to the goal” Mario games more than the puzzle/collectathon oriented ones personally, though I still had fun with Odyssey in spite of that)
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BrokenLink posted:Just 100%ed this, pretty fun, but I ended up having to do the final bonus stage three times (spoilers for one of the bonus levels) because they thought it was cute to have a finicky jump for the flag-pole while you're INVISIBLE. Do you need the final flagpole to get the final prize?
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Nov 5, 2023 16:50
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dirby posted:Do you need the final flagpole to get the final prize? Yeah you need the flagpole to get the final prize, if you miss it the first time there is no shame in using nabbit to get through most of it easier.
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That's a wrap for me. In the end I needed to look up how to get the special world secret exits for world's 3 and 5, and then felt perfectly justified in that because both those were really dumb. Great game, felt like playing World again and poking at a world of secrets.
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I may have just completed climb to the beat and rested at the top of the climb so that I missed the wonder seed. I've been doing a lot of screaming today.
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DalaranJ posted:I may have just completed climb to the beat and rested at the top of the climb so that I missed the wonder seed. LOL thats the level that made me realize "oh, the reviews lied to me, this ain't for kids" between that and the sudden difficulty/challenge increase with certain levels/secrets that confound me/weird poo poo that I appear to have missed, it's def the most challenging 2D mario i've played.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think NSMBU is very clearly a better platformer than Wonder. Wonder, as a game, is very clearly interested in doing something other than serving up interesting Mario levels. It barely even explores the badge mechanics that could each sustain ~a world each, because it's just not what the game is interested in. It's fun and creative and incredibly charming, but I feel like five years from now if I want to replay a Mario, I'll pull out U before I pull out Wonder. This is where I’m at. The NSMB series is, for me, more or less unimpeachable. Wonder is closer to something like Donkey Kong Country, with its gimmick-focused levels. That’s not a bad thing, just different, but it’s a thing I personally don’t enjoy as much.
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DalaranJ posted:I may have just completed climb to the beat and rested at the top of the climb so that I missed the wonder seed. Did the same lol (though I did try and grab it, just ran out of time) Gritted through eventually, won't do final-final course given the requirements but otherwise excellent game, I loved getting my balls punched and just all the style and whimsy involved.
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Larryb posted:They should make another game in the 3D Land/World series honestly (I kind of like the standard “get to the goal” Mario games more than the puzzle/collectathon oriented ones personally, though I still had fun with Odyssey in spite of that) I love that we got more with that engine but I do hope they eventually revist that style of 2D inspired 3D gameplay because it's very different and fun.
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BrokenLink posted:Yeah you need the flagpole to get the final prize, if you miss it the first time there is no shame in using nabbit to get through most of it easier. Thanks. I had to do two Nabbit runs to get the flagpole, and also cheated on the final segment of even my first run where I used a normal character by hanging a wire over my TV at your horizontal location, but I did it. I'm done.
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Mario Wonder feels like every solution to a secret hidden thing is reached either by looking closely at a stage layout or just telling yourself "the normal rules do not apply." The solution to getting the final coin in that first Search Party level was such a hilarious/lovely thing to pull because it involved something you'd probably never think to try---something that's not even really a "mechanic" in mario games iirc. Much of the NSMB games feel like they were put together with tilesets by interns--they have some good moments but I remember virtually nothing about them now. In terms of platforming and creativity I'd probably put 3D Land/3D World over those 4 games; 3D World is probably still one of the best because I remember being surprised at how the game just kept going and going. I'd be cool with either another bigger Odyssey game or a spiritual sequel to 3D World next---I like how all of them have exploration and secrets in common.
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