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Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

yogizh posted:

Hehe, so who is better ? Theta or Sigma ? I am in Miniluv, but unable to do that all the time. EG is dead. Other SIGs depend on what's happening, like caps n poo poo.
Who should I join ? SV wanted a vouch, what I personally find hilarious considering the service and my killboard (floating at 1000-1100 all time top killers :smugdog: )

I am doing mainly EU a DT timezone and I am looking for a chill place with nice people. I don't mind helping newbees, but I loving hate spergs. What is the best for me ?
Looks like my no RL times are over for now, so it should not be time consuming.

Check out Reavers. It's heavier in the US TZ, but Asher runs a lot of fleets later EU and he' strikes a fun balance between taking a fight seriously and just having fun. He's also just a genuinely nice and patient person on comms.

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yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

Ynglaur posted:

Check out Reavers. It's heavier in the US TZ, but Asher runs a lot of fleets later EU and he' strikes a fun balance between taking a fight seriously and just having fun. He's also just a genuinely nice and patient person on comms.

I know about Reavers. They usualy start at my bed time. I'm in CET TZ +2 to Eve during summer so it's really late. They finish when I wake up.

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.
You're basically russia tz. Bookmark google translate and join the guys in stain making mad bank farming whatever they farm down there.

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

So yesterday was my first day in Goonwaffe. I thought I had a basic idea how to play Eve but I was quickly proved wrong as mechanics from 0.0 that I was not used to became confounding. I had to learn how to do everything all over again it felt and as I finished reading my 16th wall of text post I realised poo poo is hard.

I cried for help in little bees and someone told me to jump on mumble and all these people gathered around to help me move down, even giving me isk to help. Then they took me out ratting and babysat me the whole way.

Then, after all that, I got to go out on a fleet. We killed a stabber who was shooting me and another ship I forget the name of and they had me in half structure but I lived. I was shaking.

I feel pretty happy about the whole thing. Goons is a good place to be for a new player.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Sialia posted:

So yesterday was my first day in Goonwaffe. I thought I had a basic idea how to play Eve but I was quickly proved wrong as mechanics from 0.0 that I was not used to became confounding. I had to learn how to do everything all over again it felt and as I finished reading my 16th wall of text post I realised poo poo is hard.

I cried for help in little bees and someone told me to jump on mumble and all these people gathered around to help me move down, even giving me isk to help. Then they took me out ratting and babysat me the whole way.

Then, after all that, I got to go out on a fleet. We killed a stabber who was shooting me and another ship I forget the name of and they had me in half structure but I lived. I was shaking.

I feel pretty happy about the whole thing. Goons is a good place to be for a new player.

This post makes me happy.

EDIT: This right here is what it's all about people. Not space empires or squads, or petty grievances.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Sialia posted:

So yesterday was my first day in Goonwaffe. I thought I had a basic idea how to play Eve but I was quickly proved wrong as mechanics from 0.0 that I was not used to became confounding. I had to learn how to do everything all over again it felt and as I finished reading my 16th wall of text post I realised poo poo is hard.

I cried for help in little bees and someone told me to jump on mumble and all these people gathered around to help me move down, even giving me isk to help. Then they took me out ratting and babysat me the whole way.

Then, after all that, I got to go out on a fleet. We killed a stabber who was shooting me and another ship I forget the name of and they had me in half structure but I lived. I was shaking.

I feel pretty happy about the whole thing. Goons is a good place to be for a new player.

This sounds exciting! To think this awaits me in the future :D

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I like the people in Theta but Theta comms have been turbo-spergy ear cancer recently. Maybe they were before, I wasn't around enough in Dek to really know. There's a purge Saturday but as far as I know that's just forums stuff, standing fleet comms and jabber are open.

Sigma seems like they might be chill and awesome though.

you feelin fucky
May 23, 2009

Morris posted:

I like the people in Theta but Theta comms have been turbo-spergy ear cancer recently. Maybe they were before, I wasn't around enough in Dek to really know. There's a purge Saturday but as far as I know that's just forums stuff, standing fleet comms and jabber are open.

Sigma seems like they might be chill and awesome though.

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

you feelin fucky fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Sep 15, 2016

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Morris posted:

I like the people in Theta but Theta comms have been turbo-spergy ear cancer recently. Maybe they were before, I wasn't around enough in Dek to really know. There's a purge Saturday but as far as I know that's just forums stuff, standing fleet comms and jabber are open.

Sigma seems like they might be chill and awesome though.

It's always been like that. When zungen started cross broadcasting blops poo poo to Theta the cancer spread to my safe place.

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

Also: Holy poo poo lol

Jbz
Jun 6, 2011

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

Please do not doxx kazanir.

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

That is horrifying

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

this is why I only log into comms on fleets

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Jbz posted:

Please do not doxx kazanir.
lol

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Jbz posted:

Please do not doxx kazanir.

jesus christ

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
For those of you with an active subscription or planning to get one before midnight today CCP has revealed the last gift for those who can hold an active subscription from now until the November-expansion drops:

The Sunesis, an exploration-destroyer from the Society of Conscious Thought. It's basically a smaller, nimbler version of the Gnosis.

The second link leads you to the official thread, if you have some thoughts you want to share with CCP.

Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

Sialia posted:

That is horrifying

It was just a Ferox, nothing to get riled up over.

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

So nothing changed since 3-4 years ago in Theta. Gimme mah fatte space. Was thinking about joining when I was in TNT, but holy loving god those comms were disguisting.
In the scale from Catpiss Everdeen to Amyclas Amatin is it any better ? Does the squad need a person that will tell people how retarded they are ? I could be the man for that. :v:

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

yogizh posted:

So nothing changed since 3-4 years ago in Theta. Gimme mah fatte space. Was thinking about joining when I was in TNT, but holy loving god those comms were disguisting.
In the scale from Catpiss Everdeen to Amyclas Amatin is it any better ? Does the squad need a person that will tell people how retarded they are ? I could be the man for that. :v:

Join Horde, eve online's premier space-faring guild. We are recruiting all dps, tanks and healers of any gear level, and all stats. We'll help you level up your mining to be self-sufficient too!

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

MorsAnima posted:

Join Horde, eve online's premier space-faring guild. We are recruiting all dps, tanks and healers of any gear level, and all stats. We'll help you level up your mining to be self-sufficient too!

You should check peoples chars before recruiting them to lovely meat shield alliances. Anyone switching from GEWNS to PH is literally braindead and should be neutered to preserve human genome.

nex
Jul 23, 2001

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Grimey Drawer
agree, but in a very chill manner!

in other news, its finally weekend! fridge stocked with beer, procurer finally trained and moved into Sigma Prime (the chillest citadel)
time to mine! :coal:

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

nex posted:

agree, but in a very chill manner!

in other news, its finally weekend! fridge stocked with beer, procurer finally trained and moved into Sigma Prime (the chillest citadel)
time to mine! :coal:

1 hr 12 min till I finish work. Can't wait, BEEER ! I was at work last 6 weekends. :rip: braincells.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

yogizh posted:

1 hr 12 min till I finish work. Can't wait, BEEER ! I was at work last 6 weekends. :rip: braincells.

I've been done for nearly two hours, finishing early on a friday has it's benefits

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

yogizh posted:

You should check peoples chars before recruiting them to lovely meat shield alliances. Anyone switching from GEWNS to PH is literally braindead and should be neutered to preserve human genome.



If all the fantasy mmo terms like 'guild', 'dps', 'tanks', 'healers' and 'gear level' didn't make you realise I was taking the piss then you have absolutely no hope in goons, so seriously go to ph where they have safe spaces for people like you

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

MorsAnima posted:



If all the fantasy mmo terms like 'guild', 'dps', 'tanks', 'healers' and 'gear level' didn't make you realise I was taking the piss then you have absolutely no hope in goons, so seriously go to ph where they have safe spaces for people like you

Maybe you need to work on your puns so more people get them. Your impression of a pubbie was too real.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

AAPsel posted:

My experience with theta comms was some guy who, between wheezes, explained that Best Buy was really a great employer because they took into account his weight issues. He was only required to leave his chair if no other employee was available to help the customer instead. The only thing that shut him up was when someone reported a solo caracalFerox headed to JU-. Everyone docked up and comms remained dead until cowwarrior successfully neutralized the threat. Then the obese man continued his wheezing.

Here is an excellently goony story, one that can be passed down from goonfather to goonson. Sadly it seems the quality has fallen from such great highs.

MorsAnima posted:

If all the fantasy mmo terms like 'guild', 'dps', 'tanks', 'healers' and 'gear level' didn't make you realise I was taking the piss then you have absolutely no hope in goons, so seriously go to ph where they have safe spaces for people like you

WTB purple fit max gear titan so I can solo PL, just sold all my wow gold and can buy many plex

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

Morris posted:


WTB purple fit max gear titan so I can solo PL, just sold all my wow gold and can buy many plex

Why fight the baddies when you can just join the baddies, in premier space-faring guild pandemic horde. We are recruiting all dps, tanks and healers of any gear level, and all stats. We'll help you level up your mining to be self-sufficient too!

FranktheBank
May 14, 2007
In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.
Hey goons, I have a friend who wants help with a fit for a very tanky, minmatar BS. The skill limitations are No t2 guns, no missiles and budget is 300mil. Also, he wants very little mods to manage. Here is the current ideas I have for him. Was hoping to get some improvements from you guys.

[Maelstrom, Maelstrom fit]

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Cap Battery II

Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

Ogre II x3
Hammerhead II x2

70k eHP, 748 hp/s booster (with blue pill), 860 total DPS, Cap lasts 2:46 (longer than any fight I assume)

[Tempest, Tempest fit]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Damage Control II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Heavy Stasis Grappler II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II

Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

96k eHP, 893 Total DPS, Cap lasts 3:12. I dunno what booster he would use (if any).

We'll be flying in a small gang of cruisers, bcs, and 2 bs.

Thanks!

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.
They're both poo poo. Here's why.

  • No prop mod on either, did you just outright forget that bit?
  • No mjd, which means your chance of surviving anything unfavourable just dropped to 0%.
  • 748hp/sec is ok-ish vs a gang, but you only outrep 2 guys max with it.
  • You will fight a gang, cause you're not catching poo poo without tackle in your cruiser/bc(why bc they're bad in small gang except maybe navy cane)/bs gang.
  • In fact, they're gonna catch you cause they'll have tackle and nothing larger than a cruiser.
  • 3 plates + no resist mods has less ehp than 2 plates + 1 eanm.
  • 2 plates + 3 trimarks = 20s align time = you're dead.
  • Judging by "No t2 guns, no missiles and budget is 300mil. Also, he wants very little mods to manage." he's low sp. Low sp + pvp battleship is not going to be a fun night for the pilot or anyone with him.

No t2 guns and no missiles restricts you hardcore to bs, so in an effort to help your friend enjoy your small gang roaming, tell him to fly a cruiser. Why "very little mods to manage"? Is more than 3 buttons too difficult? Does he only have one hand? Also, you want "very tanky" but tank means diddly-loving-do when you're caught and can't move, you're dead. 500k ehp 2.5k dps carriers die to <10 dudes in cruisers, your 40k armor 90k ehp no-prod-mod battleship is doomed.

Upvotes to the left oh wait what.

You posted 2 minmatar, so I'm assuming that's the deal.

[Tempest, roaming wtf tempest]
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Energized Armor Layering Membrane II
Energized Explosive Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Stasis Grappler II

Heavy Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Heavy Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, Republic Fleet EMP L

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I

Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5



Is that too many buttons? Has prop mod, has mjd, has cap booster, 841 dps with warriors, 919 hammerheads, all cold. Heat the ancillary for 2135 armor per cycle. 10s align, you're not getting much lower in a brick bs without nano mods. Grappler + neuts to force off tackle. You don't need tracking computers with 650s, let your cruisers shoot small poo poo, you shoot cruisers and up just fine.

MorsAnima fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Sep 16, 2016

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
Introduce him to the cruiser mafia. Battleships are fat.

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

Rhymenoserous posted:

Introduce him to the cruiser mafia. Battleships are fat.

100mn cruisers are the loving bomb, all the speed, no sig bloom. Basically all we fly now cause max risk aversion.

FranktheBank
May 14, 2007
In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.
If we fly into a larger gang, we will 100% die and we already know this. Whelping is no big deal whatsoever and prop mod isnt going to save him.
Tackle I'm not too worried about from the guy, because we can just have other, better pilots for it.

This is gonna be a 1 way trip, we are not coming back. We just want this person on grid for as long as possible (and able to apply somewhat relevant dps).

I'll drop a plate for an eanm.

If the booster hp/s is irrelevant, I guess i'm just going to go with the Tempest.

Risk aversion is not the game plan.

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

FranktheBank posted:

If we fly into a larger gang, we will 100% die and we already know this. Whelping is no big deal whatsoever and prop mod isnt going to save him.
Tackle I'm not too worried about from the guy, because we can just have other, better pilots for it.

This is gonna be a 1 way trip, we are not coming back. We just want this person on grid for as long as possible (and able to apply somewhat relevant dps).

I'll drop a plate for an eanm.

If the booster hp/s is irrelevant, I guess i'm just going to go with the Tempest.

Risk aversion is not the game plan.

Whelping uselessly is how you never get better, but ok. If you legit just want a useless mildly tanky thing on field then 2x plate 1x eanm tempest with no propmid, no mjd etc. Hell you might as well go full retard and dual tank at that point.

I should say too, you're going to die to smaller gangs too. In fact, you're gonna die to anything beyond afk stuff on gates.

MorsAnima fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 16, 2016

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

MorsAnima posted:

Lots of fitting related stuff that is very long

This actually makes sense

As an unrelated newbie, thank you for explaining this, I understand now why people don't max tank.

FranktheBank
May 14, 2007
In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.
I agree that it would be way better served fitting differently. For this specific roam, it's what we are gonna try. Don't worry. We have much better pilots coming with us with useful stuff.

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

FranktheBank posted:

I agree that it would be way better served fitting differently. For this specific roam, it's what we are gonna try. Don't worry. We have much better pilots coming with us with useful stuff.

But that being said, if the only purpose is to live longer why NOT dual tank it? I mean, I am not saying it would conventionally be wise but if you're retard-welping you might as well.

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

Also even if you have a ridiculous tanky bait thing what is to stop them realising and changing targets?

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

Sialia posted:

Also even if you have a ridiculous tanky bait thing what is to stop them realising and changing targets?

A t1 battleship that has shown no signs of a prop mid won't be primaried for ages in a small gang setting anyway. It'll be held by tackle that it can't even scratch until the end. The bs pilot needs to ignore the tackle and focus on stuff it can shoot/hit.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

MorsAnima posted:

A t1 battleship that has shown no signs of a prop mid won't be primaried for ages in a small gang setting anyway. It'll be held by tackle that it can't even scratch until the end. The bs pilot needs to ignore the tackle and focus on stuff it can shoot/hit.

yeah, you go after the poo poo that can hurt your small fast stuff first. Clear in order ECM > Logi > Tackle > Else, and depending on who you ask/what's on field ECM and Logi can be flipflopped.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Sigma is chill and good and I recommend chill dudes try chill Sigma out. Only problem is active subscription Sigma is like 12 dudes and our peak time is later US east to normal US west. We need more dudes but we have a strong core.

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Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

MorsAnima posted:

A t1 battleship that has shown no signs of a prop mid won't be primaried for ages in a small gang setting anyway. It'll be held by tackle that it can't even scratch until the end. The bs pilot needs to ignore the tackle and focus on stuff it can shoot/hit.

There are ways for a battleship to deal with tackle like that, harshly, but neither of those fits shows any evidence of any of those ways.

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