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hobbesmaster posted:So how long until they ruin Brienne? Season 5 where she stood around waiting for a candle to be lit all season.
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some guy on the bus posted:Season 5 where she stood around waiting for a candle to be lit all season. That's like the female knight equivalent of carrying a printer around.
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Aug 26, 2017 01:23
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some guy on the bus posted:Season 5 where she stood around waiting for a candle to be lit all season. Better than wandering aimlessly for 2 books.
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Aug 26, 2017 01:32
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Bonus epilogue: Dany and Jon and Dany's newborn all die of Daario strain Hypersyphilis. The real enemy was unprotected sex the whole time.
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Aug 26, 2017 02:01
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maybe the books aren't coming out because gurm has been busy ghostwriting The Expanse for ty franck all this time
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Aug 26, 2017 03:45
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Solice Kirsk posted:It's hard to remember how good this show used to be. A reminder:
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Aug 26, 2017 06:04
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They could not have picked a better actor for Jaime. It's a god drat shame they hosed up his story so badly. Walder is sooooo good and looks the part from beginning to end. The bath scene is just one of many. gently caress this show used to be so god drat good what the gently caress. I feel bipolar watching the new poo poo and feeling like I enjoyed it, then remembering how it used to be and being sad again. I would honestly punch the absolute fucker in the face if I saw him for making me give a poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2017 06:32
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Yeah, Jaime's story feels the most hosed up for sure. I would much rather have him kicking around the Riverlands talking to random nobles than whatever the hell this is.Solice Kirsk posted:It's hard to remember how good this show used to be. A reminder: For real. Now it feels like they've gone out of their way to discard all nuance and give us the story everyone could predict.
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Aug 26, 2017 07:21
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Aug 26, 2017 08:22
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Like I know there are lots of people, men and women alike, who look at Dany and somehow see an empowered heroine, I've had the displeasure of meeting some, but I don't loving get how anyone can be so stupid. RoboChrist 9000 posted:She's a monstrous person and even if you think she means well (which involves directly ignoring her stated motivations) then the fact still remains that her entire legacy is literally death and ruin. Every single place she visited in Essos she left a smoking ruin, literally or metaphorically. Everywhere she goes she has literally left naught but death and ruin in her wake.
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Aug 26, 2017 09:34
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PupsOfWar posted:maybe the books aren't coming out because gurm has been busy ghostwriting The Expanse for ty franck all this time "busy writing" cm'on now...
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Aug 26, 2017 09:35
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kcroy posted:She starts as a slave, ends up as one of the most powerful people in the world. Frees slaves along the way. Wants to "break the wheel". Maybe you have different definition of empowered? I mean, I'm open to being wrong here, but "anyone can be that stupid" is a bit extreme don't you think? Not a rhetorical question: does it count as being empowered if the only reason you have power is that
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Aug 26, 2017 09:56
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In the books the hypocrisy surrounding Dany and the fact that she can't even notice the various ways in which she's privileged and absurdly lucky is obviously intentional, in the show who knows.
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Aug 26, 2017 09:58
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emanresu tnuocca posted:In the books the hypocrisy surrounding Dany and the fact that she can't even notice the various ways in which she's privileged and absurdly lucky is obviously intentional, in the show who knows. Also the contrast between how she essentially refuses to see her privileged status and so is constantly undermined by the assumption she deserves her victories and how Jon quickly learns how lucky he was to grow up with Ned and he learns to actually respect that he can use his luck to help others as well if he understands where they're coming from.
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Aug 26, 2017 11:25
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kcroy posted:She starts as a slave, ends up as one of the most powerful people in the world. Frees slaves along the way. Wants to "break the wheel". Maybe you have different definition of empowered? I mean, I'm open to being wrong here, but "anyone can be that stupid" is a bit extreme don't you think? Hard to use this bit as evidence either way until the show gives some indication of what the gently caress "breaking the wheel" actually means and involves. Someone ask Preston Jacobs, I'm sure he's got a theory or ten
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Aug 26, 2017 11:54
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Crameltonian posted:Hard to use this bit as evidence either way until the show gives some indication of what the gently caress "breaking the wheel" actually means and involves. Someone ask Preston Jacobs, I'm sure he's got a theory or ten He actually discusses this in his latest video, he says that he believes the idea came from GRRM but that generally the books are already so far behind it's really just a guessing game. poo poo this makes Preston sound reasonable.
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Aug 26, 2017 11:58
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emanresu tnuocca posted:He actually discusses this in his latest video, he says that he believes the idea came from GRRM but that generally the books are already so far behind it's really just a guessing game. Nothing about how the series actually takes place on a Ringworld and 'breaking the wheel' is a reference to Dany wanting to break it apart because ???? Man, it feels like everyone's just going through the motions these days.
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Aug 26, 2017 12:11
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If she really wanted to break the wheel she would set up a Republic. Instead she wants to be queen of the 7 kingdoms because of birthright. So basically her "breaking the wheel" just means changing a tire on the side of the road.
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Aug 26, 2017 14:23
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All my Social Media friends are very angry at GRRM, specifically, for the poor overall quality of last few episodes. I don't know if that is hilarious or sad. Probably both.
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Aug 26, 2017 15:30
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Had he not publicly divorced D&D after season 4 so he could "dedicate himself to the book" the show would have probably been much, much better.
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Aug 26, 2017 15:36
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Dangerllama posted:All my Social Media friends are very angry at GRRM, specifically, for the poor overall quality of last few episodes. I don't know if that is hilarious or sad. For all his faults read his writing credits before you go hitting him for the television program he's been adapting into a series of novels quote:Martin announced that he would not write a script for Season 5, to focus on writing the next novel. In March 2015, he also announced that he will voluntarily not be writing an episode for Season 6 either, as it would take about a month's worth of writing time away from his continuing work on the novel series.[5] my man
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Aug 26, 2017 15:44
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kcroy posted:"busy writing" cm'on now... furthermore maybe ty franck was never real
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Aug 26, 2017 16:07
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syscall girl posted:For all his faults read his writing credits before you go hitting him for the television program he's been adapting into a series of novels That's what's so funny to me. I feel like it's fitting that he has to own the awful, awful end to a series he's now got pretty much nothing to do with e: also this. https://twitter.com/jonrosenberg/status/900968293955129345 waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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Aug 26, 2017 16:40
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In hindsight this is pretty hilarious:quote:Martin announced that he would not write a script for Season 5, to focus on writing the next novel. In March 2015, he also announced that he will voluntarily not be writing an episode for Season 6 either, as it would take about a month's worth of writing time away from his continuing work on the novel series.[5] Oh no, not a whole month of delay!
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Aug 26, 2017 17:27
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NihilCredo posted:In hindsight this is pretty hilarious: I'm reading it right now. You will not believe what Melisandre is getting up to.
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Aug 26, 2017 17:36
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Hearing things that Brendan Fraser will be casted for S8 to dispel her. It's a tight race between him and Tom Cruise. I know Cruise is old af and Fraser's career is nearly impossible to find so we'll see how that goes.
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Aug 26, 2017 17:38
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Not impossible that Dolph Lundgren is in the running #only80skids (I just had to do the trifecta, I sincerely apologize)
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Aug 26, 2017 17:40
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Dangerllama posted:That's what's so funny to me. I feel like it's fitting that he has to own the awful, awful end to a series he's now got pretty much nothing to do with I'd 100% unironically accept an all-musical GoT episode that focuses on Tormund, the Hound, and Drogon.
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Aug 26, 2017 17:48
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PupsOfWar posted:furthermore maybe ty franck was never real I think it is more likely that Ty was ghostwriting than the other way around. Solice Kirsk posted:If she really wanted to break the wheel she would set up a Republic. Instead she wants to be queen of the 7 kingdoms because of birthright. So basically her "breaking the wheel" just means changing a tire on the side of the road. emanresu tnuocca posted:In the books the hypocrisy surrounding Dany and the fact that she can't even notice the various ways in which she's privileged and absurdly lucky is obviously intentional, in the show who knows. I didn't get that in the book. I got that she is making mistakes and being a lovely ruler - but I don't see those as being about her not checking her privilege or something. You say she is absurdly lucky, but she takes some pretty bold actions: -abandoning her brother to his fate -eating that heart -transitioning to her new life with the dothraki -Killing Drogo and attempting to take over the khal -walking into a giant loving bonfire -trading her ships for mercenaries, against advice, and then using that to take over astapor Is she "woke as gently caress?" no - and of course she was set up for much of this. When we look in her privilege knapsack, we see education, beauty, hereditary benefits, financial backers, etc. But compare that to Sansa - who had all of these things but is completely a pawn, and for the most part happy with it. I mean it turns out poorly, but you don't see her becoming an agent of her own actions in the books. I think it is understandable that people would see Dany as an empowered woman / heroine. Is she a good leader? From a military point of view, she is doing pretty great early on in the books . Part of the problem with all this is GRRM hasn't finished, and even if he were to - the lack of editing is a loving problem. I mean he could be reinforcing that seizing power isn't the same as ruling ( echoing Robert's experience ). He could be comparing and contrasting the leader that is handed everything ( Joffrey or Tommen ) regardless of their fitness, to Jon who has to prove his fitness to succeed.. but then tempering it with Dany who shows that fitness is more than just conquering. But then what the gently caress is Faegon about? He has the same loving type of backstory as Jon. I feel that these would have been refined with some decent editing. NihilCredo posted:Not a rhetorical question: does it count as being empowered if the only reason you have power is that It isn't the only reason - you could have thrown all of those things at someone else and they would still be riding around with Dothraki, unlike Dany who is... oh.. well you get the point.
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Aug 26, 2017 18:23
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She's not empowered because she's inherited all of her power from others just throwing it at her. It's like saying the spoiled rich kid that turned his daddy's loan of 5mil dollars into 6mil dollars over the course of 10 years is a financial genius.
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Aug 26, 2017 18:55
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'd 100% unironically accept an all-musical GoT episode that focuses on Tormund, the Hound, and Drogon. Davos and Hot Pie have to participate.
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Aug 26, 2017 19:12
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ya shes not empowered shes just uhh powerful. those are actualky different things and this post isnt sarcastic
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Aug 26, 2017 19:14
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Solice Kirsk posted:She's not empowered because she's inherited all of her power from others just throwing it at her. It's like saying the spoiled rich kid that turned his daddy's loan of 5mil dollars into 6mil dollars over the course of 10 years is a financial genius. So how does that compare to the others in the running? Winterfell was pretty nice before some dickhead burned down the library Name your poorest and most deprived major character because it's Richie Rich looking at exciting maps tomorrow  Greyjoys can go get hosed and eat fish while drowning like the poverty-stricken losers they are
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Aug 26, 2017 20:52
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Didn't see this posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCERgbR9nk Still watching (sad), so hmm some highlights until the 16th minute: * George is afraid of the internet, thinks people should stop sending him hate mail * George still goes on about how he doesn't get why people are shipping Sandor with Sansa and says the word SanSan edit: oh obviously ignore the title cause he didn't say a single word about TWOW so far.
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Aug 26, 2017 21:33
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kcroy posted:I think it is understandable that people would see Dany as an empowered woman / heroine. Is she a good leader? From a military point of view, she is doing pretty great early on in the books . Part of the problem with all this is GRRM hasn't finished, and even if he were to - the lack of editing is a loving problem. I mean he could be reinforcing that seizing power isn't the same as ruling ( echoing Robert's experience ). He could be comparing and contrasting the leader that is handed everything ( Joffrey or Tommen ) regardless of their fitness, to Jon who has to prove his fitness to succeed.. but then tempering it with Dany who shows that fitness is more than just conquering. But then what the gently caress is Faegon about? He has the same loving type of backstory as Jon. I feel that these would have been refined with some decent editing. Yeah, you'd think Dany might have learned that "seizing power isn't the same as ruling" from the Slaver's Bay clusterfuck, and that's why she's doing things differently going into Westeros. Then again, she hasn't been the best at learning from experience. I'm sure the books (lol) would have worked this out in a more satisfying way, GRRM is/was preoccupied with questions of legitimacy, inheritance, what makes a king a king, etc. I like that line from Varys at the end of ADWD: "Tommen has been taught that kingship is his right, Aegon knows kingship is his duty"
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Aug 26, 2017 21:36
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Cornflakes posted:Yeah, you'd think Dany might have learned that "seizing power isn't the same as ruling" from the Slaver's Bay clusterfuck, and that's why she's doing things differently going into Westeros. Then again, she hasn't been the best at learning from experience. Considering she dies in childbirth before ever getting to rule in Westeros, i'd say nothing she did in Slavers Bay matters at all. On that note, in the end, since a Targ gets to rule a feudal kingdom with a Lannister as her Hand and no worries of anything beyond the wall, i'd say the events of the entire series are meaningless.
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Aug 26, 2017 22:07
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TommyGun85 posted:On that note, in the end, since a Targ gets to rule a feudal kingdom with a Lannister as her Hand and no worries of anything beyond the wall, i'd say the events of the entire series are meaningless. So deep and meaningful and pignoint...
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Aug 26, 2017 22:15
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Davos will be secretary general of the seven soviets.
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Aug 26, 2017 22:23
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syscall girl posted:So how does that compare to the others in the running? Dolorous Edd and Gendry. 
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Solice Kirsk posted:Dolorous Edd and Gendry. There's money you have and money you don't but Gendry should be heir to most of it Dolorous Edd if he isn't dead can't have much of a fortune based on the whole night's watch thing Cash on hand is useful though and there is apparently good and bad debt in Westeros
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