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Balance of Terror is a good episode but the Romulans have not appeared on Discovery as of yet (assuming they didn't show up in the most recent episode that I haven't watched)
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Hell, if someone asks to watch good star trek before beginning Discovery why would you turn them down?
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Feb 25, 2019 00:14
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In the context of "Hey, I really wanna watch this show, but I feel like I have to get up to speed with the previous shows to appreciate it" it makes sense to say there's no need. That's usually the framing for these kinds of questions. If what she actually wants is to just watch some old Trek then go for it, but that's not what I got from the original post.
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Feb 25, 2019 00:39
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The thing with Errand of Mercy is that yes it has Klingons, but it’s not going to do anything to make Discovery Klingons more interesting or understandable to you. Errand of Mercy’s Klingons aren’t even much like 80s/90s ARGHH HONOR KAPLAH Klingons, and Disco’s Klingons are a freakin weird take on those guys, not the guys from TOS. Errand of Mercy is a fun episode but you have to consider that what TOS is doing with Klingons is really its own little thing.
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Feb 25, 2019 01:50
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Emma Stone joined the Tal Shiar. https://twitter.com/THR/status/1099826797632516096
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Feb 25, 2019 01:56
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FlamingLiberal posted:Balance of Terror is a good episode but the Romulans have not appeared on Discovery as of yet (assuming they didn't show up in the most recent episode that I haven't watched)
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Gonz posted:Emma Stone joined the Tal Shiar.
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Feb 25, 2019 02:36
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"Distant Origin" and "Displaced" were great episodes, and they did a really convincing job presenting the evolved-hadrosaur species as one of the most technologically advanced species in Star Trek aside from the Borg. "Nemesis" is boring and feels like a lot of preaching to the choir, and having watched Kenneth Burns' Vietnam War 10-parter recently makes that worse. Second of all, TNG and DS9 have had plenty of "landing in the middle of two species at war" episodes that were much better because they gave it a technological twist, like the planet where the nanoprobes keep the warring parties from dying. Edit: I take everything back. I expected the twist to be that the people rescuing Chakotay would be from the opposing side, but the actual twist was unexpected. I think the reason "Displaced" works so well is that it's like two episodes in one. The last crew member gets transported off the ship at the halfway mark. The portion with the portals to all the different environments reminds me of someone telling me about having a cat that seems to think there's such a thing as a "door to summer" or a "door to winter". galenanorth fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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Feb 25, 2019 03:24
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skasion posted:The thing with Errand of Mercy is that yes it has Klingons, but it’s not going to do anything to make Discovery Klingons more interesting or understandable to you. Errand of Mercy’s Klingons aren’t even much like 80s/90s ARGHH HONOR KAPLAH Klingons, and Disco’s Klingons are a freakin weird take on those guys, not the guys from TOS. Errand of Mercy is a fun episode but you have to consider that what TOS is doing with Klingons is really its own little thing. Context is context; I was considering more the Star Trek franchise as a whole rather than Discovery specifically. Actually "Trials and Tribbleations" might be a good one in that respect. "Those are Klingons!?"
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Feb 25, 2019 03:25
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galenanorth posted:"Distant Origin" and "Displaced" were great episodes, and they did a really convincing job presenting the evolved-hadrosaur species as one of the most technologically advanced species in Star Trek aside from the Borg. Distant Origin is saddled by some of the worst science in Trek. The Voth are interesting as they seem to be by far the most advanced species technologically we've ever seen, aside from maybe things like the Caretaker. They seem way ahead of the Borg.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:31
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Captain Georgiou and her consort Pharrell Williams on the Oscars just now.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:33
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Context is context; I was considering more the Star Trek franchise as a whole rather than Discovery specifically. I think you'll find context is for kings.  
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Feb 25, 2019 03:43
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Astroman posted:I think you'll find context is for kings. 
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TAS theme, best theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71dbxoFpMQc
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Astroman posted:I think you'll find context is for kings. I'm too old-fashioned for that. I prefer the conscience.
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Oh, man, “Field of Fire” is such a let down. I thought for sure they were going for a suicide episode, with O’Brien and Bashir feeling awful for shutting that poor dude out of their holosuite adventures, and Ezri obsessing over whether she could have done more to prevent it. LOL nope it’s a sadbrain Vulcan with a magic rifle. Why? “Logic demands it.” I don’t say this often, but gently caress you, Deep Space Nine.
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Feb 25, 2019 16:29
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DS9 really hated Vulcans.
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Pakled posted:DS9 really hated Vulcans.
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Feb 25, 2019 16:33
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Did you consider the possibility that maybe the Vulcan and his logic was correct? Isn't it possible that key people needed to die for completely logical reasons? Isn't? It? Possible?
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Feb 25, 2019 16:39
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Did you consider the possibility that maybe the Vulcan and his logic was correct? He was probably a Logic Extremist.
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Feb 25, 2019 16:47
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Phylodox posted:He was probably a Logic Extremist. No such thing
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Feb 25, 2019 16:59
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Timeless Appeal posted:I’m interested in “A Private Little War” becuase it deals with prime directive stuff, but I can definitely be convinced. It's also a great example of how they would retell contemporary situations (Vietnam) with a thin veneer of sci-fi slathered over the top.
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Phylodox posted:He was probably a Logic Extremist. Oh, so I'm an *extremist* if my use of Logic dictates the systematic murder of individuals and groups counter to an allegedly objective greater good? Sounds like you've got some growing up to do.
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Vulcan logic makes so much more sense when you realize it's a religion.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:No such thing Tell that to the MRA chuds who will whine all about how 'logical' they are.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:32
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ashpanash posted:Tell that to the MRA chuds who will whine all about how 'logical' they are. They are illogical. I am a Vulcan and perfect at logic
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Feb 25, 2019 17:33
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Watched the TNG episode Where Silence Has Lease, and I forgot how loving creepy the god-like being in that episode is. That episode disturbs me greatly and I hate it a lot.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:34
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:They are illogical. I am a Vulcan and perfect at logic Any programmer can tell you that logic is a garbage in/garbage out system. Without evidence or critical examination logic is merely a way to be wrong with confidence.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:37
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ashpanash posted:Any programmer can tell you that logic is a garbage in/garbage out system. Without evidence or critical examination logic is merely a way to be wrong with confidence. According to the Vulcan science institute this is incorrect
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:According to the Vulcan science institute this is incorrect How do you feel?
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:According to the Vulcan science institute this is incorrect A handful of ancient-rear end Vulcans nod sagely at this and press "approve thesis" on their lecterns.
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Phylodox posted:How do you feel? TƆƎЯЯOƆ
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I said come in! posted:Watched the TNG episode Where Silence Has Lease, and I forgot how loving creepy the god-like being in that episode is. That episode disturbs me greatly and I hate it a lot. Yeah it’s excellent. One of my favorite early TNG shows; their later attempts at horror were usually comparatively lame.
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I figure Field of Fire is just what happens when you give a Vulcan PTSD and not enough therapy, they believe themselves to be acting logically even when they're lashing out in pain.
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skasion posted:Yeah it’s excellent. One of my favorite early TNG shows; their later attempts at horror were usually comparatively lame. Same. It just has this pervasive feeling of wrong throughout it that’s rarely done right. It’s almost David Lynch-like.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:59
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ashpanash posted:Any programmer can tell you that logic is a garbage in/garbage out system. Without evidence or critical examination logic is merely a way to be wrong with confidence. Spock, why do you always say 'logic suggests' and 'probability dictates.' Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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Feb 25, 2019 18:15
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Phylodox posted:How do you feel? A true Vulcan would answer 'With the nerves embedded throughout my skin. Next question?'
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skasion posted:Yeah it’s excellent. One of my favorite early TNG shows; their later attempts at horror were usually comparatively lame. I want to see Nagilum and Q fight it out. I imagine multiple galaxies being destroyed.
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Feb 25, 2019 18:35
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I said come in! posted:I want to see Nagilum and Q fight it out. I imagine multiple galaxies being destroyed. Even better, Q basically says “uh yeah I don’t know what the gently caress this is  ” and peaces out
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HD DAD posted:Even better, Q basically says “uh yeah I don’t know what the gently caress this is I'm laughing pretty hard at the thought of this. The fact that the Star Trek universe has everything from primitive races, to literal gods and god like beings, is one of my favorite things about it.
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