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Condiv posted:yeah, they're idiots. it's not like moving is expensive, nor that CoL in cities is significantly higher in cities. wish these beached whales would just pull themselves up by their bootstraps They could, like, not vote for people who run on platforms of hex chrome in every river and coal dust in every lung
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:by working on them? they're an extraordinarily commm transmission
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zegermans posted:They could, like, not vote for people who run on platforms of hex chrome in every river and coal dust in every lung perhaps, if there were dem infrastracture to combat the din of republican propaganda in these states. but dems and the dnc have written that off
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Condiv posted:they just need to move to new york city this is basically what's been happening for the past 30 years but to lexington or atlanta or wherever
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also this isn't the first out-migration wave to hit appalachia when the jobs dried up
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zegermans posted:Check out the Muslim prayer curtain 
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Condiv posted:they just need to move to new york city Take the stereotypical coal mine worker in some part of Appalachia who loses their job because the mine closes down. Sending them back to college isn't gonna do any good if you don't also figure out a way for them to move out of the economically depressed mining town they live in. They've got a mortgage, but there's no way that they're gonna be able to sell their house because the local unemployment is 10-15% and the area is bleeding population as anyone who can leave does, leading to a glut of homes on the market and very few buyers. Even if they could get a job elsewhere, is it gonna pay enough for them to afford two mortgage/rent payments (one for their old house and one for where they move to)? For someone like that, the area of southern MN where I am right now would be perfect. We've got 3% unemployment overall and the company I work for has entry-level, no education required jobs paying $12-$15/hr unfilled because they literally cannot get applicants that aren't "I've been fired from my last 8 jobs and I showed up to the interview drunk"-type fuckups, and this is in an area where $12-$15/hr is actually a living wage. You're not gonna be living high on the hog, but you can afford a house on that. At one of our town hall company meetings, someone asked a senior VP if they planned to expand in our area and the guy chuckled a little bit and said something to the effect of "none of our companies around here can find people to fill the jobs we have open, let alone if we tried to expand". I'm sure that there's plenty of folks who would be glad to move up here for one of those jobs, but they're locked into a lovely situation where they're at, and no amount of free college is gonna break them out of that. You need a comprehensive program to not only get workers trained for the jobs that exist, but also to move workers around to where those jobs are.
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Grey Fox posted:"Well, he's great with the transmissions. Taught himself in his own backyard. Too bad he's functionally illiterate and can't read the work orders at the repair shop he wants to work at." yeah, such a shame the democrats have abandoned any and all efforts to keep schools properly funded in order to make sure he could read those shop orders, but cory booker wanted to make sure charter schools had to happen
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zegermans posted:I have more sympathy for whales being hunted than whales that keep beaching themselves. Literally FYGM
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Condiv posted:it's amazing to me that the dems know the poor and middle class in this country is going through employment related crises, and refuse to do anything to help other than say "find better jobs". like hillary intentionally shot down programs she could've spun as job retraining programs for coal workers (free university). why the gently caress would you do this if you gave a poo poo? It's pretty easy to not do something if you're paid to not do it
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:yeah, such a shame the democrats have abandoned any and all efforts to keep schools properly funded in order to make sure he could read those shop orders, but cory booker wanted to make sure charter schools had to happen Seriously, who do you think has pushed for more cuts in education at the state and local levels? GOP or Dems?
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Grey Fox posted:We're in agreement on that one, except for the part where you think Democrats have any control at the state and local level outside of the coasts right now. I wonder why? 🤔
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zegermans posted:It's pretty hosed up that Brazile is allowed to come within 500 ft of any DNC event after what she did. it's amazing how many really bad presidential campaigns she's been a part of yet still allowed to make decisions for the party
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Grondoth posted:Chin up this is no time for worry i fear you might be mixing up cause and effect. there was never a place for the left in the two parties in the first place. they weren't adopted by the Democrats out of generosity, they muscled their way into mattering so much that they couldn't be ignored. welfare and unions didn't legally exist in the first place until the left fought for them, organizing and pushing for them in spite of both political and physical opposition sure, the Dems sold out unions and welfare. but the reason they were able to get away with that is because the left was already in decline. the left was once able to fight for those things to be created; but now they can't even fight to stop them from being dismantled. in other words, it's not that the left became politically inactive because the Dems betrayed it, it's that the Dems betrayed it because it became politically inactive on the one hand, it's understandable that people wouldn't bother since it is hard and takes effort to fight against the organized resistance to leftism at the highest levels of society. on the other hand, that resistance has always been there, and the left used to be able to beat it back when the elites were even stronger and the working classes were even weaker. right-to-work laws suck and are certainly a burden on unions, but unions existed a hundred years ago when the Supreme Court thought labor laws were unconstitutional because they interfered with the "right to work" and violated due process. it's hard to fight for leftism now, and it's been hard to fight for leftism since the 80s...but it was also hard to fight for leftism back in the 20s and 30s. if the left is less powerful than it used to be, it's not because conditions have gotten worse for the left, it's because the left has weakened Gene Hackman Fan posted:"you have to get a degree in order to live like a human being" this is what happens when merely having white skin isn't a direct guaranteed ticket to a middle class life anymore
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:And then what? This kind of mentality is what led us here. Yea, fossil fuels are killing the planet, but people have to make a living. You can't leave them to die. And you can't have a presidential candidate that says your jobs are gonna go away when he or she becomes president. There's 50k coal miners left, and they make like 70k a year. Just pay them all a 50k/yr pension ($2.5b) and let them figure out their own reemployment
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Grey Fox posted:We're in agreement on that one, except for the part where you think Democrats have any control at the state and local level outside of the coasts right now. i live in a blue state and can guarantee you that the democrats have no interest in properly funding and desegregating the public school system even in states where they have complete control over the state leg
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Fiction posted:i live in a blue state and can guarantee you that the democrats have no interest in properly funding and desegregating the public school system even in states where they have complete control over the state leg
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Grey Fox posted:*education funding bill dies in GOP-controlled committee* well they could have tried not losing 900+ seats, that would have been something
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Grey Fox posted:*education funding bill dies in GOP-controlled committee* *is too busy eating lobster risotto with donors to do anything about the destruction of the middle class*
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Grey Fox posted:Can you elaborate which state? you know what town has a big segregation issue? greenwich, ct. they've been real upset about bussing people to the other side of greenwich to go to public schools. it's hysterical
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Raskolnikov38 posted:well they could have tried not losing 900+ seats, that would have been something
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