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I’m always thinking how good of names Treize Khushrenada and Lucrezia Noin are actually.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/capybaroness/status/1790381973447364830?t=QwcMJBbi5QI-DXMptGt6DA&s=19 Personally I see them more like Pynchon names but hell, maybe Pynchon is where Tomino got his knack for naming. I have never seen anything to support this but I would love for it to be true.
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A Bao a Qu is from Borges so maybe
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May 14, 2024 20:07
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Charles Aznavour
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i think if sochie gets a sad end because she is literally a child and makes childish decisions as a result, i still feel bad for her regardless of whether or not she """earned""" being miserable for the rest of her foreseeable future i'm also pretty sure that post-gavanne she's clearly not taking it well that a nice dude she was just using to get loran jealous went and died for her? i mean that's an awful lot of guilt to carry around for the rest of your life because when you were a teenager you were kinda shallow and dumb about relationships
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Yeah while it's a ending I don't interpret Sochie's ending as being sad forever. She's still in her late teens and while she grew she still has to put her emotions in order.
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ImpAtom posted:Wow Platinum is some top grade Gundam Name, yes. But like... A b tier enemy pilot. One of the lesser known innovades. One of issue's blonde fuckboys maybe
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Yeah while it's a ending I don't interpret Sochie's ending as being sad forever. She's still in her late teens and while she grew she still has to put her emotions in order. i'm more worried about loran, tbh. i don't think he would have moved on with his life once dianna died.
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Man, Afterglow of Zeon is not good. They decided it was ok to hack apart the fights to save time, but keep the Nina and Kou flirting scenes in their entirety. They cut out the fight with the Mobile Armor but kept in Kou helping Kelly fix it. They added a voiceover by Nina but didn’t use it to explain any of her poo poo.
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lol Mayfly of Space doesn’t even explain Cima’s part in the colony gassing or that she was tricked into doing it.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/gouftroop/status/1790133266307043635?t=3lkyeAP3gvFOAWlnpRBUlA&s=19 the old supernatural fans are melting the gently caress down its insane :3
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Waffleman_ posted:https://www.ign.com/articles/exclusive-gundam-breaker-4-interview Summary: "We're really, really, REALLY sorry about New Gundam Breaker. That won't be happening again."
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SRW 30 is front loaded with Victory Gundam; should I watch Victory Gundam?
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TheMightyBoops posted:SRW 30 is front loaded with Victory Gundam; should I watch Victory Gundam? It’s good.
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TheMightyBoops posted:SRW 30 is front loaded with Victory Gundam; should I watch Victory Gundam? It's top tier
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TheMightyBoops posted:SRW 30 is front loaded with Victory Gundam; should I watch Victory Gundam? If you've watched some other gundam shows, yes, definitely. If you haven't, watch some other ones first and then yes, definitely.
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TheMightyBoops posted:SRW 30 is front loaded with Victory Gundam; should I watch Victory Gundam? it broadly has a reputation for being very interesting but not necessarily a "good story" obviously that second part has some contention here
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GodFish posted:If you've watched some other gundam shows, yes, definitely. If you haven't, watch some other ones first and then yes, definitely. I’ve seen The first UT series, all of the Cosmic Era shows and all of Wing.
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TheMightyBoops posted:I’ve seen The first UT series, all of the Cosmic Era shows and all of Wing. You are ready to stand up to the Victory.
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Gripweed posted:You are ready to stand up to the Victory. I'd recommend Zeta first. It's a good warning for how Victory gets, but with a better show to make it all easier to get through.
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TheMightyBoops posted:I’ve seen The first UT series, all of the Cosmic Era shows and all of Wing. Victory is Peak Tomino Depression. Excellent if you want a window into the man's mind when he was absolutely burnt out trying to make extended toy commercials into something resembling art and is leaving his whole rear end hanging out with regard to his particular hang-ups in life. He gets things under control later (Turn A).
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chiasaur11 posted:I'd recommend Zeta first. It's a good warning for how Victory gets, but with a better show to make it all easier to get through. People don’t need a “warning” about Victory, they can simply enjoy the show.
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Victory is a very interesting gundam with its own things to say, but is also the most extreme example of the recurring problems people have with UC gundam. Be ready to read between the lines a lot and not sweat as much the literal meaning of what characters are saying. In Victory, actions speak louder, and not just because sometimes the dialogue is a total non sequitur because someone’s having a newtype moment. Also get ready for a LOT of blood but, again, it’s a UC series helmed by Tomino
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Much as the "Kill 'Em All" Tomino moniker is fun to throw around, I think Victory is another show where it's reputation is overblown, similar to the way 08th MS Team got talked up as the most hardcore super realistic Gundam show when it absolutely is not that. Yes, Victory guillotines and lots of death and some pretty drat questionable portrayals of women, but aside from the guillotine, specifically, I don't think there's really that much more to Victory that earns that reputation as the darkest saddest most mega depressing show in the franchise. It's Tomino without antidepressants trying to make a Gundam show and getting angry, which leads to mixed results.
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Arc Hammer posted:Much as the "Kill 'Em All" Tomino moniker is fun to throw around, I think Victory is another show where it's reputation is overblown. Yes there's guillotines and lots of death and some pretty drat questionable portrayals of women, but aside from the guillotine specifically I don't think there's really that much more to Victory that earns that reputation as the darkest saddest most mega depressing show in the franchise. It's Tomino without antidepressants trying to make a Gundam show and getting angry, ending up with mixed results. I just finished rewatching victory after rewatching zeta and it’s not even close, victory has WAY more named characters dying all the time. The reason people remember it differently, though, is that the deaths tend to happen in streaks like the shrike team. There are long stretches without anything happening that run directly into several episode runs of “this person is introduced/shows back up only to die”
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Still I don't think that a higher body count inherently makes for a "darker" story because if we go by that metric then 0079 wins out for killing 5 billion people in a prologue narration. Victory is a dour, angry show made by a creator going through a bad phase in his life and I think that's a better way to preface it to a new viewer than to repeat the common refrain that it's the darkest saddest gundam there is. The former description gives a better context than the latter, which is pretty vague on details but easy to repeat.
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Arc Hammer posted:Still I don't think that a higher body count inherently makes for a "darker" story because if we go by that metric then 0079 wins out for killing 5 billion people in a prologue narration. what if the metric is "characters with a name dying on screen"
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also 0079 is in fact a rather dark children's cartoon, i think the 5 billion people dying in the prologue does to some extent inherently make it a dark story
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ninjewtsu posted:what if the metric is "characters with a name dying on screen" 0080 loses that metric but is still the one about an 11-year-old being traumatized by war. That's pretty loving dark for a not incredibly high body count.
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ninjewtsu posted:what if the metric is "characters with a name dying on screen" Rough check IBO had 31 named deaths and Victory has 36. ninjewtsu posted:also 0079 is in fact a rather dark children's cartoon, i think the 5 billion people dying in the prologue does to some extent inherently make it a dark story It is when you think about it but it never really gets the same reputation as Victory despite also having a pretty drat high body count of named characters.
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Warmachine posted:0080 loses that metric but is still the one about an 11-year-old being traumatized by war. That's pretty loving dark for a not incredibly high body count. i think condensing a subjective opinion like how "dark" something is into a singular quantifiable metric like this will inherently have exceptions, but if you're going to pick just one metric it seems like a pretty drat good place to start
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Arc Hammer posted:Rough check IBO had 31 named deaths and Victory has 36. How things are framed matters, Dr. Stone should be one of the bleakest shows of all time if you were to describe a rough summary TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 15, 2024 |
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Arc Hammer posted:It is when you think about it but it never really gets the same reputation as Victory despite also having a pretty drat high body count of named characters. i just wanna point out that 0079 absolutely has a reputation for being a dark and serious story about a kid getting repeatedly traumatized by the horrors of war, and i don't think "when you think about it" is necessary the whole franchise has that reputation really. remember how many people were predicting a downer everyone dies ending for gwitch? ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 15, 2024 |
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IBO has a happier ending than Victory all things considered.
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0079 dies have rough moments but it still doesnt get the same content-warning disclaimer in discussions the way Victory does. I'm not saying these shows aren't dark or don't have depressing elements to them. They absolutely do. I'm saying that I think, in Victory's case, that labeling is overblown. There's a grain of truth in the reputations these shows get, of course, that's where the seed of their public perception begins. But I think it's rather reductive to label a given Gundam show as "the dark one", "the martial arts one", "the lesbian one", etc, because how you react to those broad descriptions could end up turning you off of a story you might otherwise have enjoyed.
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yeah but also sadly we can't write wikipedia summaries for everything and need convenient, understandable shorthands if you aren't gonna call victory "the dark one" what are you gonna call it? yes quote me and say "the good one" go on it's very clever
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