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CaptainScraps posted:Do ya'll donate to judicial campaigns? Is it worth it? I don't know about donating, but working for campaigns has paid a ton in dividends. Good chance I'm going to end up a clerk to a magistrate in a few years, which is a good paid almost no-show job.
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I've shared this here before: I come from a pretty poor family and was the first in my entire extended family to go to college, let alone grad and then law school. Sometimes when I'm getting coffee or whatever, I see students studying. Some of those kids are studying just to get into college, or into law school, or studying for the bar. But I'm a lawyer now. I made it. And then in like, Holy poo poo! My parents literally sold drugs. Half my high school class didn't graduate. Anyway, I had one of those moments tonight. It feels so loving surreal sometimes. I don't even have imposter syndrome about being a lawyer. I'm a good trial lawyer. I only share this poo poo in the thread because I try not to socialize with other lawyers in real life. And I didn't die from msra!
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May 29, 2017 04:43
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My girlfriend and I are slowly moving into our first house and my parents have been dropping off boxes of stuff I had stashed at their place. Tonight I discovered the box with all of my table top role playing source books. I was leafing through them tonight and it became clear my interest in transactional law is an outgrowth of how much I loved RPGs as an adolescent. Books upon books of rules with exceptions to exceptions. Thanks White Wolf, I guess. Any other transactional lawyers minted by Vampire the Masquerade out there?
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May 29, 2017 05:01
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While I was in lawschool I ran a Hunter game on the forums. Does that count?
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May 29, 2017 05:56
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Lmao PD defender lyfe: Having to get someone to explain to you why your cliennt's DNA is on a certain piece of tubing. "It's a home made bong." 
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May 29, 2017 12:27
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I've shared this here before: I come from a pretty poor family and was the first in my entire extended family to go to college, let alone grad and then law school. Sometimes when I'm getting coffee or whatever, I see students studying. Some of those kids are studying just to get into college, or into law school, or studying for the bar. Good for you man, keep on keeping on 
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May 29, 2017 13:12
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I've shared this here before: I come from a pretty poor family and was the first in my entire extended family to go to college, let alone grad and then law school. Sometimes when I'm getting coffee or whatever, I see students studying. Some of those kids are studying just to get into college, or into law school, or studying for the bar. You are the embodiment of the american dream. Well, what was the american dream, I'm not sure what that dream is these days but it's looking more and more like my recurring nightmares involving free falling. The song, not the act. No offense. I think I do suffer from imposter syndrome, because holy gently caress the goddamned hacks I encounter throughout the year. 90% of the job seems to be just giving a gently caress and generally not being a shitbird, unlike those unconscionable assholes who just put in pretend effort. The fact that I don't feel like I'm miles above these people but still just treading water either means I'm actually crap or I'm not as arrogant as I thought I was (which is weird, because I'm almost never wrong). evilweasel posted:law school was loving great quote:law review  Aaaaaand then I come back to the realization that yeah, law school is very different in other areas of the world. Holy gently caress. For any grade average above mostly below average, you had to spend at least 10 hours a day studying, writing and submitting papers. It was more than a full time job. I could have done better if I hadn't had to work alongsides.Maybe it's because it's a dedicated profession-oriented master's degree over here, and only available in three universities (two of which totally suck by the way). Grade requirements (no SAT, LSAT whatever) sort of ruled out everyone who wasn't a massive school nerd (like, medical school and some fancy engineering were higher? but not by much), and the very few private schools who taught the first few years mostly lost their licences in a I wanna say 2012 purge? Anyway, the people who tried to coast... didn't. And it got worse every year as poo poo ramped up, I think there was like a 50% dropout per year, like 400 first years and 50 graduates maybe? But yeah obviously I played videogames over socializing on the weekends, because GamingHyena posted:Law school was terrible only because it was filled with law students who terrible at being human beings. this is actually probably true everywhere. And I am thoroughly working class. No bueno. But what the gently caress is law review. I had to google that, and they let law students write or edit legal theory publications? Why would you let some moron student get his hands on anything without at least a degree? Our publications are accredited professors/phds only, and we use them as sources (secondary, but still persuasive).Over here, students work in free legal aid or volunteer for ELSA, or if they are cool and good try out for the uni international litigation team. I did  Learned more there than academic writing ever got me, even made some connections through mentors and coaches. Only thing worth more than that would be internships, which I never did for any private firms because I had to work for a living outside of Uni.Moral of the story is, be an intern. gently caress whatever law review is.
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May 29, 2017 13:18
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Nothing as fun as watching CLEs and recognizing the guy lecturing; a guy who you routinely beat up in court, is an idiot and knows jack poo poo and is teaching a topic he doesn't practice in CLEs are so loving stupid
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Flutieflakes017 posted:My girlfriend and I are slowly moving into our first house and my parents have been dropping off boxes of stuff I had stashed at their place. Tonight I discovered the box with all of my table top role playing source books. Grew up playing D&D, Rifts, Gurps, Torg, you name it. Along with games like Shogun, WH40K, Space Hulk, Fury of Dracula, whatever else was available in the 80s and early 90s. Unfortunately, games are fun. Transactional law isn't (for me). mastershakeman posted:Nothing as fun as watching CLEs and recognizing the guy lecturing; a guy who you routinely beat up in court, is an idiot and knows jack poo poo and is teaching a topic he doesn't practice in We have certain partners who make it almost a running joke to take CLEs that are completely unrelated to what they do, simply as a meta-level indictment of the system. "A transactions attorney who took all of his credits in representing your DUI clients in state court? Why not, you're good for the next three years, you've obviously learned what you need to be safe to the public." SlyFrog fucked around with this message at 14:22 on May 29, 2017 |
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May 29, 2017 14:19
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SlyFrog posted:We have certain partners who make it almost a running joke to take CLEs that are completely unrelated to what they do, simply as a meta-level indictment of the system. I really like this and I will make it a goal to only do CLEs in areas of law totally unrelated to corporate practice.
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Nice piece of fish posted:But what the gently caress is law review. I had to google that, and they let law students write or edit legal theory publications? It's mostly just using students as free editorial labor. Law students can figure out how to proper cite things, and can proofread for proper grammar and spelling and poo poo, and when you run it thru several levels it tends to average out to being right. Law review students are probably the most familiar with blue booking, since that's one of the only times it actually matters. The law review students aren't critiquing the subject matter or the legal theories As for being published, 99.9% of published law review articles don't matter to anyone. It's not like a hard science journal like Nature or whatever. You'll never use them in practice, so they only matter to academics, and unless you are one of the maybe ~100 lawyers who's opinion on legal theory actually matters, no one is citing your work. And a TTT school that inexplicably has 4 journals has to publish something, so they publish student work (which is rightfully marked as student work)
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May 29, 2017 17:22
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mastershakeman posted:Nothing as fun as watching CLEs and recognizing the guy lecturing; a guy who you routinely beat up in court, is an idiot and knows jack poo poo and is teaching a topic he doesn't practice in Disagree. CLEs are a fantastic way to write off a vacation. Occasionally they have other uses as well, such as resume building and networking.
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May 29, 2017 19:44
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When I did second-tier law review I was editing some piece where it was key that like a defendant was hmong but in the article they just said "he's laotian" and i'm like "hmmmm" and wanted to get the author to submit a new footnote but the EIC was like "you're just bluebooking" and so I stopped giving a gently caress about editing anyway that's my story
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May 30, 2017 00:55
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"Judges Reject Orange County's Claim That Social Workers Didn't Know Lying In Court Was Wrong" http://www.ocweekly.com/news/judges-reject-orange-countys-claim-that-social-workers-didnt-know-lying-in-court-was-wrong-7774616 Holy poo poo.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:When I did second-tier law review I was editing some piece where it was key that like a defendant was hmong but in the article they just said "he's laotian" and i'm like "hmmmm" and wanted to get the author to submit a new footnote but the EIC was like "you're just bluebooking" and so I stopped giving a gently caress about editing This resembles the moment I knew law review was bullshit as well.
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May 30, 2017 02:46
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Trip report: Good news - I found a psychiatrist that I really like. He is less rushed, more thoughtful, and does not seem to view me as a flow-chart for drugs. (Considering that he also does therapy (he's in his own private practice, so he does not have to do the large hospital patient mill thing), this makes some sense.) Bad news - I was quite hopeful about a combination of drugs he suggested, but it did not work (again, I took them religiously in accordance with his instructions, until he said I should stop, because they should have done something by now). I'll see what he suggests next. Other news - I have been on short-term leave for a few weeks now. Bad news related to other news - I still have no idea what direction to take, particularly now that the drugs did not make me feel better about going back. Hope people don't mind this - since I went on about it so much earlier, I figured I'd just update.
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SlyFrog, I really do hope things work out, and I'm glad you've found a new therapist. I know it's hard for you to be optimistic, but it sounds like you really are trying to be. Keep it up.
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TheMadMilkman posted:SlyFrog, I really do hope things work out, and I'm glad you've found a new therapist. I know it's hard for you to be optimistic, but it sounds like you really are trying to be. Same. 
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I met a cool and good 3L with a job lined up that happens to be socialist as hell and volunteers with the national lawyers guild and has been arrested and stuff. It almost made me want to dredge up my waiver application and my 'foreign law degree' and start get going again about doing the bar here somehow but the effects of the beer and conversation wore off and I went back to my IT job and I still am glad I didn't go down the path of further legal education here But I still think there are cool people out there maybe you are one ~~~~ be your own lawyer true self ~~~~~
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Murrah posted:I met a cool and good 3L with a job lined up that happens to be socialist as hell and volunteers with the national lawyers guild and has been arrested and stuff. I was when I was a PD. Then I got an easy job. I'm happy, but lame.
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nm posted:I'm happy, but lame. Good. Stay that way. That way lies true happiness. I'm stuck living for some indeterminable time in the future where I'm financially fixed up with property and in shape and all sorts of long-term goals workwise, and it's starting to piss my girl off. I told her I didn't want to take the time off to do holiday beach living this summer while I've got a huge project waiting costing me money. It didn't go down well. What, so I'm a responsible adult, I'm suddenly the bad guy now? God damnit.
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May 30, 2017 08:08
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Discendo Vox posted:nm, you should be ashamed of yourself. I can't hear you over my vacation and pension.
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SlothBear posted:"Judges Reject Orange County's Claim That Social Workers Didn't Know Lying In Court Was Wrong" I can't believe that lawyer was actually making that argument
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So are social worker unions that strong in Orange County or were the people whose kids got taken away minorities?
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Fingers crossed for you, SlyFrog. In other news, love the first few hours back after a long weekend where nothing new is in yet and you can actually pick up stuff that shouldn't have been on the backburner for so long.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:So are social worker unions that strong in Orange County or were the people whose kids got taken away minorities? He asked rhetorically.
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Got my first SovCit thing today, though it's merely a fax from someone with severe mental problems using a copying store. It says that the person owns the Entire Domestic United States of America all 50 States and Guam, and the Entire Whole World 100% including Guam. Some of that is underlined. They also claim to be a World MultiTrillionaire. The fax has little snippets of SovCit patter, but it's placed stream of consciousness style, with no real coherent thought. Also, the cover sheet of the fax has notes written on all the margins, sideways. And has the guy's driver's license. I'm tempted to send it back via mail and say we can't accept a fax regarding land issues without gold fringes on the side, but p sure this dude would straight up murder me without any second thought.
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We used to have to do client intakes sometimes at the first firm I worked at. Between SSI and VA disability there were some doozies.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:So are social worker unions that strong in Orange County or were the people whose kids got taken away minorities? quote:Both social workers also demeaned Fogarty-Hardwick to others involved in the case, portraying her as a spoiled beauty queen who was born with all the advantages and was used to getting her way.  I went googling last night because that case deeply confused me. http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20CACO%2020100614038/FOGARTY-HARDWICK%20v.%20COUNTY%20OF%20ORANGE The dad lost custody after one of daughters, who has autism, told a therapist he sexually abused her (a court appointed psychologist later determined she probably wasn't). The daughters, especially the autistic one, didn't want to see him. The social worker told them that if they didn't visit him they would be put in a home. Subsequently the social worker lied to the court claiming the mother was deliberately turning them against him and got the kids put into foster care. Edit: They pulled a King Solomon on her, forcing her to choose between the kids staying in foster care or relinquishing custody to her ex-husband, so she gave him custody. The social workers had no apparent motivation other than pure malice. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 01:11 on May 31, 2017 |
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Gobbeldygook posted:
good news, at least one of those two social workers were promoted and pulling down $143k and is training other social workers!
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Zo posted:good news, at least one of those two social workers were promoted and pulling down $143k and is training other social workers! Glad I went to law school, oh wait...
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I got married this weekend. My coworkers got PDs from all the offices across the state to sign a giant "Our Deepest Condolences" card for me. I also had to delay my honeymoon a week (sorry honey) because the complainant didn't show up to an abuse trial two weeks ago so the state continued, speedy trial runs out on Thursday and my client wouldn't waive the time so we go tomorrow. I love my job (except for the times that I hate it).
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Abugadu posted:Got my first SovCit thing today, though it's merely a fax from someone with severe mental problems using a copying store. It says that the person owns the Entire Domestic United States of America all 50 States and Guam, and the Entire Whole World 100% including Guam. Some of that is underlined. They also claim to be a World MultiTrillionaire. If you want this to go away, find the most official looking stamp you can find that says something like "Receipt" or "Received" or some such. Stamp it. And if there's nothing to do,file it away and never speak of it again.
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Update on my msra knee: I went back to surgeon today. Apparently two of the sutures didn't dissolve in me properly, so they had to cut open the inflamed area and remove them. But at least it's not presently infected? They gave me antibiotics because now I have a big (to me) open wound on my leg. I'm wondering how I can parlay this into a continuance.
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I'd start with the big open wound on your knee. Seems like good cause. Offer to show it to the court and you'll get as long as you want.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:
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Tokelau All Star posted:I got married this weekend. My coworkers got PDs from all the offices across the state to sign a giant "Our Deepest Condolences" card for me. I also had to delay my honeymoon a week (sorry honey) because the complainant didn't show up to an abuse trial two weeks ago so the state continued, speedy trial runs out on Thursday and my client wouldn't waive the time so we go tomorrow. I love my job (except for the times that I hate it). My deepest condolences!
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Gobbeldygook posted:
Wow. I guess social workers are the same everywhere too. I've seen some bullshit, this is a step above what I've seen personally but I've heard of cases edging close to this bad. There's really nothing quite so damaging to public trust as lack of accountability. blarzgh posted:With pics, up on the courtroom display. I vote this. Make a powerpoint.
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