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SpaceGoatFarts posted:Apparently Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond theorized around the same time that, due to similarity between mescaline and adrenaline, the latter was a psychedelic and could explain schizophrenia as a form of auto-intoxication interesting, now what happens when a populace is in constant fight or flight mode due to late stage capitalism
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Scarabrae posted:interesting, now what happens when a populace is in constant fight or flight mode due to late stage capitalism
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Adrenochrome causes the symptoms of schizophrenia? And they've known it since the 50s. Time to go back through old docs and see how that figured into mkultra.
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Marenghi posted:Adrenochrome causes the symptoms of schizophrenia? They believed it at least. The psychonauts at Erowid have tried to shoot, smoke it, snort it and boof it and only reported mild and uncomfortable effects.
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lol i just looked and of the 2 reports one of them is a guy who left epinehprine in a syringe in his drawer for most of a week and then shot it up despite the colour having changed
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never change erowid never change
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worth noting that double-bind theory somewhat famously failed to explain schizophrenia very well, but the underlying thinking obviously found myriad uses besides understanding and treating mental illness.
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they are quickly becoming Jewed by CHUPAKULTRA, (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Zodium posted:worth noting that double-bind theory somewhat famously failed to explain schizophrenia very well, but the underlying thinking obviously found myriad uses besides understanding and treating mental illness. There was some noise made a few years ago about schizophrenia likely not being a single condition but rather a collection of conditions united by their lack of response to standard treatments. That is, it is very possible for someone to be paranoid and hear voices, two classic schizophrenia symptoms, but then recover and not have another episode for the rest of their life. In this case, the diagnosis wouldn't be schizophrenia since schizophrenia by definition does not go into remission on its own. However someone with the same set of symptoms who only goes into remission when under psychiatric medication and whose illness immediately manifests again if medicine is discontinued could reasonably be diagnosed with schizophrenia. This makes schizophrenia a diagnosis of exclusion, and explains why treatment efficacy has not significantly improved despite the continued development of new meds and therapeutic techniques. It should be noted that this is in contrast to the efficacy of treatment for other psychiatric conditions such as depression and anxiety disorders, for which treatment is orders of magnitude more effective than it was decades ago. I recall there being pushback on the theory but it's interesting to think about nonetheless.
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don't think that's true for the dsm 5 criteria, and honestly it's well out of my wheelhouse, but hell, i believe it
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Zodium posted:don't think that's true for the dsm 5 criteria, and honestly it's well out of my wheelhouse, but hell, i believe it yeah sounds real enough to me so i will be accepting this as canon 100%
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Yeah, it's beyond my expertise as well but it does have a truthy ring to it. A confounding problem is how stigmatizing a diagnosis of schizophrenia is, so I think there's some effort to not diagnose someone with it if they don't need antipsychotics in perpetuity and to instead label it as depression or bipolar with psychosis.
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I've read some new papers that might show that schizophrenia is a disorder of too much dopamine, the opposite of adhd. as a super adhder it makes sense to me and high levels of dopamine drugs cause similar symptoms to schizophrenia e: https://www.healthline.com/health/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-and-dopamine
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Maed posted:I've read some new papers that might show that schizophrenia is a disorder of too much dopamine, the opposite of adhd. as a super adhder it makes sense to me and high levels of dopamine drugs cause similar symptoms to schizophrenia that's not a new theory and has been known for a while. antipsychotic medication usually downregulates dopamine which is why they are sometimes called tranquilizers and also why they sometimes give people parkinsons like symptoms.
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Jose posted:lol i just looked and of the 2 reports one of them is a guy who left epinehprine in a syringe in his drawer for most of a week and then shot it up despite the colour having changed lol I mean it's an incredibly dumb thing to do but adrenochrome is the primary degradant of epinephrine when it's exposed to air and I believe is responsible for the color change. of course that means if it's exposed to air it's exposed to the outside environment where bacteria live so it's a good way to introduce bacteria directly to your blood
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bacteria cultures, intravenous, trip report:
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Maed posted:I've read some new papers that might show that schizophrenia is a disorder of too much dopamine, the opposite of adhd. as a super adhder it makes sense to me and high levels of dopamine drugs cause similar symptoms to schizophrenia new papers as in post 1930? lol
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inchworm posted:bacteria cultures, intravenous, trip report: someone post that screenshot of the guy who injected weed mayonnaise
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Cached Money posted:someone post that screenshot of the guy who injected weed mayonnaise that is the grossest phrase I've read in a long, long time
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if they're not careful bidens gonna let slip he has an ozone percolator next to a freezer full of goat kidneys
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Biden had surgery to implant goat testicles in his nutsack but they hosed up and replaced his brain with them.
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quote:Allegedly there’s a video on the dark web of the elites (specifically Hilary Clinton) taking off a child’s face & that’s where that red face comes from. Ellen even wore a sweatshirt w that face on it. She even has demonic paints and pictures all over her home.  Would answer a lot of questions if true. Anyone have any follow up links?
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121123 posted:they are quickly becoming Jewed by CHUPAKULTRA, *entirely contingent upon internet connection status
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Spergin Morlock posted:this fun 1950s clip came up on YouTube for me the other day. check the poo poo the doctor says during minute 23 lmao holy poo poo
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 A fun little conspiracy theory to start your day off 
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I don't know what that link is so you may as well just post the content here if it's safe for work
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Ive crack pinged myself into believing that Qanon is a psyop (definitely true) started and propagated by a cabal of military and DIA higher ups and their friends in private intelligence corps, who are all members of The Knights of Malta and possibly Opus Dei (questionable)
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I think Malta would be an interesting country to visit.
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Dokapon Findom posted:I don't know what that link is so you may as well just post the content here if it's safe for work Just a hotlink to the image hosted on imgbb 
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my bony fealty posted:Ive crack pinged myself into believing that Qanon is a psyop (definitely true) started and propagated by a cabal of military and DIA higher ups and their friends in private intelligence corps, who are all members of The Knights of Malta and possibly Opus Dei (questionable) Yeah I'll sign on to all this with the exception of the last part, about which I could be convinced.
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Dokapon Findom posted:I think Malta would be an interesting country to visit. italian climate but british food.
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still thinking about the video from 1955 where the scientist testing a blocker for LSD mentions experimenting with adrenochrome. lmao
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i spent 2 days in hospital over the summer hallucinating wildly and it was really loving horrible. I think a combination of coming off ritalin and the fentanyl from general anaesthesia just sent me brain spiralling hard but i was mis-interpreting what i was seeing, hearing voices and generally paranoid along with some of the worst dreams i've ever had. Definitely would not recommend
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Jose posted:i spent 2 days in hospital over the summer hallucinating wildly and it was really loving horrible. I think a combination of coming off ritalin and the fentanyl from general anaesthesia just sent me brain spiralling hard but i was mis-interpreting what i was seeing, hearing voices and generally paranoid along with some of the worst dreams i've ever had. Definitely would not recommend people in intensive medical care so frequently experience delirium they have a special name for it lol
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my bony fealty posted:private intelligence corps, who are all members of The Knights of Malta which ones?
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:people in intensive medical care so frequently experience delirium they have a special name for it lol my family and 2 discords i'm in for the first day got a full blown live update of everything I was seeing. After my second operation on the second day I realised i'd been hallucinating but couldn't stop it coming back about an hour after waking up
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Real hurthling! posted:italian climate but british food. I guess the unique language makes them seem cooler than they are. The terrain of such an urbanized island intrigues me. But after two seconds of googling I can see that the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, that issues its own passports, has no contemporary geographical affiliation with the actual island or country of Malta. All their poo poo is in Rome adjacent to the Vatican, naturally  What a rip!
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Spergin Morlock posted:still thinking about the video from 1955 where the scientist testing a blocker for LSD mentions experimenting with adrenochrome. lmao
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