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a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


Maybe they wanted a logo that's crying Jordan proof.

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Marklar
Jul 24, 2003

Ball is Love
Ball is Life

And they still won't sell it out.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Isn't the field going to be far away from the stands since a soccer field is much wider than an NFL field?

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

Blitz7x posted:

gently caress

That stadium has literally only twice the seating capacity as major Texas high schools

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.


Are there High School fields that are bigger?

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


EugeneJ posted:

Isn't the field going to be far away from the stands since a soccer field is much wider than an NFL field?

I love the idea of the Chargers playing on an actual soccer pitch.

It'll be good practice for when Spanos realizes that he's made a huge mistake and sends the team to London in 5 years.

Paperback Writer
May 1, 2006

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

I turned off the SD radio stream after a caller started weeping

RumbleFish
Dec 20, 2007

I still can't believe how dumb this is. It'd be one thing if the Rams had been a smashing success among fans since relocation, or if they had at least waited a few seasons to see how that played out. But what out of the available data screamed "This is a good idea" to immediately give LA two teams when the experiment with the first one isn't even over?

a new study bible! posted:

Maybe they wanted a logo that's crying Jordan proof.

No logo is crying Jordan proof.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Komet posted:

Baltimore Colts -> Indianapolis is the gold standard for unpopular moves.

"I have not any intentions of moving the goddamn team. If I did, I will tell you about it, but I'm staying here."

—Robert Irsay, January 20, 1984

(they moved March 29th)

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

seiferguy posted:

"I have not any intentions of moving the goddamn team. If I did, I will tell you about it, but I'm staying here."

—Robert Irsay, January 20, 1984

(they moved March 29th)

That's one move that's kind of understandable though. The state was about to seize the team from him

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

I wish the Chargers could fail and fold like one of those forgotten teams from the early NFL but the league sadly wouldn't let that happen.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


idgi

illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.
I think this will end up being the purest test of what the modern NFL product really means/aims to be. The NFL is feeling more and more like a fully packaged product to be consumed away from the actual field (HD broadcasts, fantasy football) than actually going to the game in person. Will it really matter if the Chargers play in a crap stadium for two years/end up playing second fiddle to the Rams in Los Angeles proper? They're still 1/32 of the NFL itself. (Note: I don't necessarily believe that this is unimportant, but this seems to be the hypothesis that will be tested)

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

guys on san diego radio were joking about making the logo say lame, so i obliged

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
I want a Philip Rivers soundbite asap

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

illcendiary posted:

I think this will end up being the purest test of what the modern NFL product really means/aims to be. The NFL is feeling more and more like a fully packaged product to be consumed away from the actual field (HD broadcasts, fantasy football) than actually going to the game in person. Will it really matter if the Chargers play in a crap stadium for two years/end up playing second fiddle to the Rams in Los Angeles proper? They're still 1/32 of the NFL itself. (Note: I don't necessarily believe that this is unimportant, but this seems to be the hypothesis that will be tested)

Won't the owners be pissed because the small capacity means less revenue to share

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Intruder posted:

That's one move that's kind of understandable though. The state was about to seize the team from him

Yeah, true. Still, the fact that he got the Mayor of Indy to contact his neighbor who was the CEO of Mayflower to send moving trucks to Baltimore immediately, and then to have them take different routes to get to Indy is insane. As soon as they hit Indiana they got police escort.

illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.

EugeneJ posted:

Won't the owners be pissed because the small capacity means less revenue to share

Maybe, but 1. they weren't drawing big in SD anyway and 2. being a second occupant of the Inglewood stadium effectively doubles the number of suites to sell to businesses (I assume).

tk
Dec 10, 2003

Nap Ghost

Can't wait to see the tifos.

Orchestrated Mess
Dec 12, 2009

Fuck art. Let's dance.

Blitz7x posted:

Imagine if we didn't have twitter and we had to all find out this morning by newspaper or whatever

A bit of a tangent, but my whole life I've fantasized about the Chargers or Padres winning a championship and framing the front page of the paper. Probably never gonna happen and today I'm gonna get rid of (put in storage) so much Chargers poo poo because I can't stand looking at it.

gently caress Spanos.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

seiferguy posted:

I feel like there are more Patriots fans in LA than Charger fans.

If the team flounders and doesn't win, they aren't going to build much interest and more or less fade away into oblivion. This is especially concerning considering Phillip Rivers is on the wrong side of 35.

Allow me to channel my inner programmer and say you don't need an if statement here.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

are the games going to conflict with the lingerie football and professional lacrosse schedules?

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
The amount of people crying on the radio today is depressing.

I'll have a big effort post this weekend

illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.
Lost in the hilarity of the Chargers playing at the StubHub Center is that going to games there will actually be pretty sweet with how close you'll be to the field (insert joke about just being closer to touching the poop here).

Edit: Jesus christ their 2017 home non-division slate: Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Redskins, Eagles :stonk:

illcendiary fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jan 12, 2017

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

a new study bible! posted:

I love the idea of the Chargers playing on an actual soccer pitch.

It'll be good practice for when Spanos realizes that he's made a huge mistake and sends the team to London in 5 years.

I knew I shouldn't have wished on monkey paw that the Jags never move to London

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
It's still amazing how two-faced an owner can be, even on the same day. After that whole "San Diego will always be home" letter this morning:

quote:

"I'm looking forward, not backwards," he told ESPN in a brief phone conversation. "I spent half my life here. I leave behind a lot of friends and lot of great memories, but life goes on. There are always a lot of changes in life, and we know this is not going to be easy. But we made a decision, we're committed to it, and our family is 100 percent behind it. What's happened has happened."

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/annieheilbrunn/status/819592382026948608

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

spanos rips off his mask, revealing Vince McMahon. "it's me Austin, it was me the whole time!" and Vince introduces the reboot of the XFL and rebranding the LA Chargers as the Los Angeles Xtreme

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

pathetic little tramp posted:

Allow me to channel my inner programmer and say you don't need an if statement here.

They're getting a new coach, and a good draft could produce a decent outcome. Remember that the Chargers lost a bunch of games in the 4th quarter this year too. But again, their window is pretty small.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
I hope Rivers retires immediately after the draft

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

EugeneJ posted:

Won't the owners be pissed because the small capacity means less revenue to share

I may be mistaken but if I recall correctly:
-Media market money (TV ad revenue, basically) goes 100% to the league to be shared equally among owners/teams
-Ticket sales is usually for the team, although sometimes part of that can go to the city/owner of the land/etc. depending on the deal that was done to get the stadium built
-In-stadium concession + merch sales goes 100% to the owner
-Non-in-stadium merch goes mostly to the owner, with a cut going to the league? I think?

In any case, the #1 thing the league cares about is viability of the NFL on the whole, and the #1 thing the owners care about is total media market revenues. The owners have effectively a veto over any proposed team move, while the league has a lot of influence in that they can offer financing, charge relocation fees, etc.

The above is probably not 100% correct but I'm quite sure about the media market factor being the thing the owners collectively care about the most.

illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.

seiferguy posted:

They're getting a new coach, and a good draft could produce a decent outcome. Remember that the Chargers lost a bunch of games in the 4th quarter this year too. But again, their window is pretty small.

I think they can challenge for the division with a solid draft. They have the benefit of playing a very weak set of unique opponents (Browns/Jaguars) as compared to the other AFC West teams and their game against the Patriots is on the road (so they don't have to burn a home game on a lost cause).

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Jags have a new coach too, and browns have the #1 pick.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Intruder posted:

I hope Rivers retires immediately after the draft

Actually no, immediately after the third preseason game instead

Leperflesh posted:

Jags have a new coach too, and browns have the #1 pick.

lol if you think the Browns are going to be anything more than a smoldering pile of poo poo for at least two more seasons (probably forever)

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Intruder posted:

Actually no, immediately after the third preseason game instead

Dickest possible move would be to quit two minutes before kickoff of the first regular season game

wait no, quit literally after calling time out just before the first offensive snap. Just get out there, let the offense line up, call an unexpected time out, go over to the sidelines and be all "wait I just realized: I quit" and then strip off his gear and run naked as a jaybird through the half-empty stands while the stadium cops chase him around, batons in the air, while yackety sax plays.

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/Padres/status/819589807131103232

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


not sure if the tickets will be outrageously expensive, or dirt cheap. probably the latter.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Intruder posted:

lol if you think the Browns are going to be anything more than a smoldering pile of poo poo for at least two more seasons (probably forever)

The Browns won't be bad forever, but it does seem like that right now

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Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Leperflesh posted:

Dickest possible move would be to quit two minutes before kickoff of the first regular season game

wait no, quit literally after calling time out just before the first offensive snap. Just get out there, let the offense line up, call an unexpected time out, go over to the sidelines and be all "wait I just realized: I quit" and then strip off his gear and run naked as a jaybird through the half-empty stands while the stadium cops chase him around, batons in the air, while yackety sax plays.

With Kevin Harlan calling the whole thing

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