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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Inescapable Duck posted:

The parents tend to be where it all starts, one way or another. That and social isolation. I think a lot of parents find comfort in knowing exactly what they need to feed their kid without having to think about it, whether they're stressed, lazy or both. The more self-aware ones at least should teach the kid to acquire and prepare their own food without needing to be almost literally spoon-fed, mind.

Parenting should be about teaching and helping your child grow into a functional adult. But it seems like a lot of stunted adults come from parents who basically gave up on them, one way or another, when they stopped being cute.

To some extent that's true but in other ways I think this is one of the few legitimate cases where bootstraps advice is fair and straightforward. it really isn't that hard to see your peers eating their greens and to tell yourself "maybe i should try them too". It really only takes a modicum of self awareness to notice how weird your picky eating habit is and actively try to change it. For me, all I really had to do was tell myself "other people enjoy these foods so I can too" and basically just forcing myself to eat the stuff I hated as a child while doing so with an open mind was all it took me to break the habit.

The reason picky eating is such a red flag is because it only stays a problem so long as the individual is absolutely unwilling to work on it, it's understandable that they developed the bad habit based on how they were raised but it's unacceptable that they're unwilling to try and fix it. This isn't substance abuse or poverty, there's no barriers to simply buying broccoli and giving it a fair shot.

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timefly
Apr 29, 2008

My [23 F] boyfriend [23 M] has meltdowns a few times a year triggered by random, everyday events. I have no idea how I should deal with the latest one.

My boyfriend and I have been dating for three years now and aside from this he's perfect. We were friends for a few years beforehand and even then we had something special. Our senses of humor and our personalities just mesh and I really feel I'd be a worse off person without him, most of the time.

He's always suffered from anxiety but I really didn't know how severe until about a year in. He has panic attacks once or twice a week and I'm used to those, but probably 3-4 times a year he goes into what I can only describe as meltdowns. Anything can set them off, even things he would normally handle just fine. The first one was actually over a clove of garlic in a stir-fry. He wanted to add another, I already thought 3 cloves was too garlicky. The next thing I know I heard the printer running and he's stomping up to me with a bunch of recipes that call for 4 cloves of garlic, like shoving them in my face while I'm over the stove and rambling about how everyone uses 4 cloves, how his mom uses 4. He escalates until he's screaming and when I tell him to add it just to his half he pours the stir fry into the garbage and starts crying and yelling at me about how I never listen to him. It was the freakiest thing I've ever experienced. He was just completely, psychotically fixated on this garlic. He tried to sneak extra garlic into my meals for days, he had me read about the health benefits of garlic, he bought a bunch of it. Then it was just over, as quick as it began. I tried to forget it.

Since then he's done this consistently, not always about garlic but always about insignificant poo poo. Once it was about which trail to take on a hike, another time it was about which day to go to Six Flags. It's always triggered by someone disagreeing with him. Usually it's me or his family. The obsession comes over him like he's being possessed and he literally can't sleep or talk about anything else. His entire countenance changes. Sometimes his anxiety medications stop it but other times he refuses to take them and insists he's acting normally. When it's over he dismisses it as a panic attack and when I press him he says he can't control it and we should break up if I can't handle it. In between attacks I can't stress enough how normal he is. Before the weekend he hadn't had an attack since January, which was a record for him. I was starting to think it was over.

My boyfriend and I are currently working in a city near my family. My dad (55 M) and my boyfriend both work in the same small field and most of the time they love to chat and bond about their jobs. We met up at my mom and dad's house for lunch on Sunday and he started talking about a new device that both his and my dad's workplace recently adopted (I know I'm being vague but like I said it's a narrow field). It started off as friendly small talk, but then my dad said something like "I really think we should have waited until Other Device was available before we invested in this one". I could just feel the air get sucked out of the room as my boyfriend stiffened up and the panicked, deranged look came into his eyes. He started going crazy extolling the virtues of the current device and degrading Other Device, and my dad was responding like it was still a friendly chat and was kidding around with him, like "Haha, is someone paying you to say this?" and stuff like that. After a few more minutes of my boyfriend ranting, my dad says "hey, it's just an opinion. I like Other Device more". My boyfriend snaps back "then you're loving stupid. I don't even know why they let old men like you work in (Field), you're going senile".

I couldn't take it (did I mention I was in the room this whole time?) and told my boyfriend that was uncalled for and he needed to calm down. He stormed out of the house and was MIA for two days until last night, when texted me some rambling, contradictory stuff going between him begging for forgiveness, saying we had to break up for my sake, calling my dad horrible things, etc. It's obvious he's still in the episode.

I just don't know what to do anymore. I don't know why he acts like this or how it just resolves itself so quickly. I feel terrible for my dad and I hate that he insulted him but if I'm honest my boyfriend has said similar things to me in the midst of an episode. It feels like he crossed a line and he did, but by the time the meltdown is over he's so "back to normal" that talking about it seems worse than letting it go. He promises he'll never do it again, he's incredibly introspective and seems truly baffled by his own meltdowns but it always, always happens again. I don't know if I can do this anymore, but if this is something treatable I can stick around.

To give some context, he's already in therapy and on medication, and we live apart.

tl;dr: My otherwise great boyfriend has near-psychotic, obsessional meltdowns a few times a year. This time he insulted my dad and I'm reconsidering the relationship

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


fruit on the bottom posted:

[26F] Breaking up with my boyfriend [27M] for my best friend [28M]

I'm a couple pages behind, but

/r/relationships: I only omitted the part where I had already cheated on him

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
Good lord, what the hell could be wrong with that meltdown guy? the 'tism?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Ein cooler Typ posted:





I can't believe her boyfriend is so closed-minded!

Here's a guy who heard the old adage "if your partner is asking for an open relationship they have already lined up somebody to gently caress" and took it to heart

Not giving her a chance to wear him down was a smart idea based on the way she's reacting to this

Demon Of The Fall posted:

Good lord, what the hell could be wrong with that meltdown guy? the 'tism?

Sounds like a panic attack to me, except he's defaulting to fight instead of flight

I've had meltdowns kind of like this, but generally speaking my loathing is directed inward instead of outward, this dude needs better therapy and drugs than he is getting because he is going to burn all of his bridges behaving this way

Mirthless fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 13, 2017

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Ein cooler Typ posted:



I can't believe her boyfriend is so closed-minded!

Move over Pete, there's a new sheriff in relationship town.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
Panic attacks are just adults having tantrums because they never learned to deal with adversity

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



My favorite part is how she basically describes him as :perfect:, including satisfying her carnal needs, and doesn't cop to who specifically she was planning on leaping on (though I don't doubt for an instant that there was someone, and would give it even odds she's already doing something at least a little shady-- flirting crazy hard, "emotional cheating," whatever). So according to her account she torpedoed a great thing for literally no reason.

Also how her ideal arrangement would include 0 emotional attachment whatsoever which is both ridiculously naive about how good humans are at compartmentalizing emotions, and further skews their relative chances of acting on the arrangement because, generally speaking, dudes are gonna be more okay with not getting post-coital cuddles.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
I wish images could be thread titles. :allears:

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Ein cooler Typ posted:





I can't believe her boyfriend is so closed-minded!

I like that she lies right from the get go when she says she's not going to bore us with huge blocks of text.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Drunk Nerds posted:

Panic attacks are just adults having tantrums because they never learned to deal with adversity

Thanks for sharing your thrilling opinions on mental illness, I'm sure you've figured it all out; clearly all those people with doctorates should just pack it in and go home

I'm willing to bet I'd dealt with more adversity before I was six than you've dealt with in your entire life. I'm not a basket case because I was sheltered as a child, I'm a basket case because I came from an incredibly abusive home during a period when my brain was still developing.

Assuming everyone has lead a life as easy as yours is stupid, you should pull your bootstraps up because it can't be comfortable to have your foot this far in your mouth

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Batterypowered7 posted:

I like that she lies right from the get go when she says she's not going to bore us with huge blocks of text.

This is a near perfect poly self-own. Dude even gave her an obvious chance at taking a mulligan where she could have walked it back and probably returned to her self-professed relationship perfection when he asks if she's joking or serious.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
I love where she says he was "a pretty monogamous guy" and still thought this was a good idea.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Mirthless posted:

Thanks for sharing your thrilling opinions on mental illness, I'm sure you've figured it all out; clearly all those people with doctorates should just pack it in and go home

I'm willing to bet I'd dealt with more adversity before I was six than you've dealt with in your entire life. I'm not a basket case because I was sheltered as a child, I'm a basket case because I came from an incredibly abusive home during a period when my brain was still developing.

Assuming everyone has lead a life as easy as yours is stupid, you should pull your bootstraps up because it can't be comfortable to have your foot this far in your mouth

Thanks for proving my point by having a tantrum rather than deal with the adversity of someone stating an opinion with which you disagree.

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


Batterypowered7 posted:

I like that she lies right from the get go when she says she's not going to bore us with huge blocks of text.

I dunno, I like it when people go into excruciating detail over how hard they just got owned.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Drunk Nerds posted:

Thanks for proving my point by having a tantrum rather than deal with the adversity of someone stating an opinion with which you disagree.

:boom:

Farg
Nov 19, 2013

Drunk Nerds posted:

Thanks for proving my point by having a tantrum rather than deal with the adversity of someone stating an opinion with which you disagree.

drat drunk needs someone disagrees with you from experience and you immediately freak out

Potato Swift
Oct 27, 2012

i fought the saw and the saw won

Beachcomber posted:

Easy solution to the flag problem: The mom needed to hang a poster of this gentleman



to the left of the flag

That reminds me, is Jastiger still around or did he get banned at some point? I'm shocked we got through an entire confederacy derail without him chiming in.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Put it in a beautiful shadow box against a velvet backing, with a big brass plaque that reads: "Idiot loser flag for racist morons who were the baddies in a misguided war they lost repurposed into an icon for their evil idiot grandkids who liked to do murders and throw rocks at children."

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Potato Swift posted:

That reminds me, is Jastiger still around or did he get banned at some point? I'm shocked we got through an entire confederacy derail without him chiming in.

No one mentioned Des Moines specifically, so it didn't trigger his keyword search.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

ranbo das posted:

I dunno, I like it when people go into excruciating detail over how hard they just got owned.

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

This is a near perfect poly self-own. Dude even gave her an obvious chance at taking a mulligan where she could have walked it back and probably returned to her self-professed relationship perfection when he asks if she's joking or serious.

It wasn't an own, it's because he's traditional! (which is good and bad)

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Drunk Nerds posted:

Thanks for proving my point by having a tantrum rather than deal with the adversity of someone stating an opinion with which you disagree.

thanks for ending this post and not writing more; please continue to not write any more

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

timefly posted:

My [23 F] boyfriend [23 M] has meltdowns a few times a year triggered by random, everyday events. I have no idea how I should deal with the latest one.

IME people that feel attacked (let alone throwing a tantrum) whenever someone has a different opinion than them have serious narcissism and inflated ego issues

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Tantrums are for babies. Babies that need a beating.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Please don't beat babies

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

I have a lot of fun by sorting by controversial. Porn haters are usually highly ranked there:

Me [21F] & my BF [20M]; The cycle of hurt from porn/deceit, how to fix it?

quote:

Alright. Disclaimer here; not here to listen to people tell me I'm stupid etc for not liking porn. It's my preference, no I'm not a prude (I used to watch it a lot) I just really don't fancy it being involved in my relationship. Any comments telling me I'm stupid etc for not liking it will be ignored and/or reported.

BIG DISCLAIMER 100% recognize & acknowledge that my behavior after I got hurt was completely wrong and unacceptable, totally immature, and just plain disgusting. I have a lot of problems and since then have been going to therapy.
So, about a year ago I sort of "caught" my BF watching porn. We had a long talk, he promised me he wouldn't watch it anymore. But he did. And I caught him watching it again. And he promised to stop, again.

Few months go by, then he tells me he has to tell me something. Basically he signed up on this website and you can watch other peoples videos and comment on them and send messages etc. Needless to say I was A) pissed as all gently caress I got lied to again B) extremely hurt and betrayed C) felt like I had been cheated on (because in my eyes, it is cheating).

Had lots of long talks about it.... and sometimes those talks turned into me screaming at him about how could he do this to me, porn is disgusting to me, I asked him so many times and he went behind my back yadda yadda... long story short, I got hurt because well, he hurt me. I was upset and mad, wanted him to feel hurt too so I would scream at him whenever I was upset by this kinda stuff; anything to do with porn has now turned into a trigger for me basically. And because of how bad I made him feel for hurting me, now he feels the subject of anything related to sex is now taboo to talk about between us- even stuff between us in the bedroom.

Now, for the last little while I've been trying to make him feel more comfortable with talking to me about sex related things - not even just me, but just talking/joking about things like that in general. Last night I said something like, "I just don't get why guys find strippers attractive. To me it's just pretty trashy", and I looked at him and he had a deer in the headlights look on his face so I laughed and said, "What, no comment?" and then he got really upset and said he doesn't find it funny and felt like I was putting him on the spot because I thought he was up to something (because for a long time after all that happened I would accuse him of anything and everything). Turned into a long talk about it all and he told me that he at first still wanted to try and talk about sex etc with me, but when he would say something that I didn't like I would flip out on him (which is true unfortunately) so now he's gotten to the point where he just avoids the topic completely.

See, now this is where the problem is: We started a loop...

- He lied to me about watching porn: I got hurt
- I got hurt: So I hurt him and made him feel horrible about it
- He feels horrible about it all: He tries to bring up other stuff related to sex
- He tries to bring up other stuff related to sex: It triggers me and I flip out on him again
- I flip out on him so many times: He doesn't want to have conversations about sex at all
- He doesn't want to have conversations about sex at all: I try to initiate them
- I try to initiate them: He shuts it down now because he is so used to me flipping out at him
- He shuts it down: I feel rejected, so I stop trying
- Annnnnd we will be left with our sex life being poo poo because we both feel the entire thing is taboo.

How do you fix a loop like this?

tl;dr: BF watched porn etc behind my back a few times and lied about it to me. I got really hurt, and I would yell at him and drill it into his head how much he hurt me. He would try and talk about sex, I would be triggered by how I got hurt and yell at him again. He got fed up with being yelled at every time he tried, so now he doesn't try. Now I try, and he shuts me down because he doesn't want me to get triggered and yell at him again. How do we break this loop? What can I do to make him feel more comfortable talking to me after being so mean and ripping him apart about it?

These poor young girls who make porn into the enemy are gonna have a loving rough time of life. Be glad he's not actually cheating on you!

Bonus points for hypocrisy because she used to watch porn a whole bunch.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Drunk Nerds posted:

Thanks for proving my point by having a tantrum rather than deal with the adversity of someone stating an opinion with which you disagree.

Sorry dude I don't have to accept every horseshit opinion as sacrosanct and beyond reproach

I also quickly move to shut down people who think the moon landings were faked or that dinosaurs are a (((globalist))) conspiracy

Bamabalacha
Sep 18, 2006

Outta my way, ya dumb rah-rah!
My boyfriend was a pretty picky eater growing up, but I don't really blame him.

He's Jewish and went to a Jewish school until he was 12. So everything was strictly kosher and home and at school. There is a poo poo ton of delicious kosher food but there's also a lot of really bland stuff and you're cut off from enormous amounts of delicious foods from pretty much everywhere. His parents are also both super meh cooks. He pretty much stuck to a handful of kosher food he liked as a kid and avoided everything else.

Then he went to public school starting in grade 7 and was like "THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS TO EAT IN THE WORLD!!!!" Even today he doesn't have the hugest food repertoire, but he will try absolutely everything at least once and will always politely eat whatever is put in front of him at social events, even if he dislikes it (or thinks he will--my dad got him into kale almost accidentally a few months ago).

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Bamabalacha posted:

His parents are also both super meh cooks.

i misread this post first and pictured walter white in a yarmulke

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
People immediately jump to defend pornography, pretty much just because they like it. Its incredibly distractive influence is extremely obvious.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pick posted:

People immediately jump to defend pornography, pretty much just because they like it. Its incredibly distractive influence is extremely obvious.

:rolleyes:

On the other hand, the literal billions of people who can handle porn and also relationships. Humans have been making porn since we could draw on cave walls.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
lol if you're not immediately jacking it to some porn when your SO leaves the room

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Bamabalacha posted:

My boyfriend was a pretty picky eater growing up, but I don't really blame him.

He's Jewish and went to a Jewish school until he was 12. So everything was strictly kosher and home and at school. There is a poo poo ton of delicious kosher food but there's also a lot of really bland stuff and you're cut off from enormous amounts of delicious foods from pretty much everywhere. His parents are also both super meh cooks. He pretty much stuck to a handful of kosher food he liked as a kid and avoided everything else.

Then he went to public school starting in grade 7 and was like "THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS TO EAT IN THE WORLD!!!!" Even today he doesn't have the hugest food repertoire, but he will try absolutely everything at least once and will always politely eat whatever is put in front of him at social events, even if he dislikes it (or thinks he will--my dad got him into kale almost accidentally a few months ago).

Kale is the Brussels Sprouts of the 2010s, it's panned by idiots who don't know how to cook or prepare food and as a result a broad set of people who might actually like this thing won't even try it

Love my Sprouts <3



Batterypowered7 posted:

It wasn't an own, it's because he's traditional! (which is good and bad)

tbh when I read the bit about his opinion on women with lots of partners I thought "this guy is kind of an rear end in a top hat" but lol if that shouldn't have been a clue how that would play out in the first place


WampaLord posted:

I have a lot of fun by sorting by controversial. Porn haters are usually highly ranked there:

Me [21F] & my BF [20M]; The cycle of hurt from porn/deceit, how to fix it?


These poor young girls who make porn into the enemy are gonna have a loving rough time of life. Be glad he's not actually cheating on you!

Bonus points for hypocrisy because she used to watch porn a whole bunch.

What kills me about this is that she also apparently doesn't want to have sex with him, and may even find sex with him disgusting, so her objection seems to be that he's not willing to be a celibate monk for her

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost
edit: weird loving double post

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



WampaLord posted:

I have a lot of fun by sorting by controversial. Porn haters are usually highly ranked there:

Me [21F] & my BF [20M]; The cycle of hurt from porn/deceit, how to fix it?


These poor young girls who make porn into the enemy are gonna have a loving rough time of life. Be glad he's not actually cheating on you!

Bonus points for hypocrisy because she used to watch porn a whole bunch.

I'm a little sympathetic to this one because it sounds like he was on fet or some cam site where you actually "interact" with the subjects of the videos, which is less impersonal than just watching. That said a blanket ultimatum to get an untenable promise in this case is always stupid, and just investing in relationship implosions futures. If she'd said "just go on a site where you only watch, messaging the models feels cheat-y to me" I could probs get behind that TBH tho.

E: also if she wasn't shrieking at him and asking deliberately provocative questions just to set him up to shriek at him s'more.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jul 13, 2017

Bamabalacha
Sep 18, 2006

Outta my way, ya dumb rah-rah!

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

i misread this post first and pictured walter white in a yarmulke

Well I mean they ARE doctors, the could probably cook up the, ahem, answers :drugnerd::jewish:

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

I'm a little sympathetic to this one because it sounds like he was on fet or some cam site where you actually "interact" with the subjects of the videos, which is less impersonal than just watching. That said a blanket ultimatum to get an untenable promise in this case is always stupid, and just investing in relationship implosions futures. If she'd said "just go on a site where you only watch, messaging the models feels cheat-y" to me I could probs get behind that TBH tho.

Yeah but he didn't start out there either

It honestly sounds like dating this woman is incredibly exhausting, she is already rationing sex and using it as a wedge against him and they're just barely into their 20s. I can't blame him for looking for a way to fulfill his sexual needs that isn't going to make him feel like he's wringing his girlfriend's arm to sleep with him when she very clearly doesn't want to.

Pick posted:

People immediately jump to defend pornography, pretty much just because they like it. Its incredibly distractive influence is extremely obvious.

you're right but in this particular case the damage done to this relationship by porn was done long before he entered the picture and has absolutely nothing to do with him, his habits, or his behavior

the poster clearly has some deeply internalized issues wrt sex and should probably not be in a relationship with anyone until she figures this poo poo out

Mirthless fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jul 13, 2017

Sarcophallus
Jun 12, 2011

by Lowtax
A big jfc from r/legaladvice:

[IL] parent liability for teen's unpaid bill without their knowledge? (self.legaladvice)

quote:

The situation is my sister was enrolled in a dual enrollment high school program at a local university where she went and lived on campus to take classes. My parents were not involved in any of the application or enrollment process and neither saw nor signed any paperwork. For context, She is not on good terms with my parents and has a long history of behavioral issues. They weren't really told anything about this program.
My sister told my parents when asked about how she would pay that she had money saved from working at Starbucks and had taken a student loan.
My parents later found out that there was in fact no loan or money and that the huge tuition bill was due. My sister is 17 (18 in two months) and is still technically a minor.
The university is making lots of threats to my parents if they don't pay. However, they never knew about any of this or signed any paperwork to make them liable for a $10,000+ bill.
Legally, can the school come after my parents for this?
Edit: my parents covered all her educational expenses of course- she graduated high school this spring. This was an optional summer program at the university. I don't care anymore anyway, it doesn't matter. my sister took her own life tonight and jumped off a building when the school said she couldn't stay. I'm sorry, this money thing doesn't matter. thanks for the advice

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
I'm glad we're doing the porn discussion rain dance again except instead of bringing rain it summons mentally broken posters.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm glad we're doing the porn discussion rain dance again except instead of bringing rain it summons mentally broken posters.

*knocks on ur door dressed in his sunday best and hands you a pamphlet*

have you heard about Hugh?

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