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I'm very proud of this picture. Also I'm very excited for BLU.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:24 |
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Defiance will be less damage than going without stance, (Defiance - 1024 + 350 (1374) in 7 gcds, no stance 1300 potency in 6 GCDs). On the 7th GCD no stance will overtake, and be farther ahead in the combo, gaining ground on each combo. Butcher's Block is also stronger than Storm's Path, and you can use that since you're not gaining beast gauge. This is more pronounced if you're spamming overpower. The difference is minimal, so if you don't need the aggro, healing bonus, or Inner Beast mitigation, you can probably drop Defiance and just combo until infinity. If you're in a trial or raid and not tanking, there's no reason to have Defiance on. e: doesn't take into account Unchained, obvs. Orcs and Ostriches fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Defiance will be less damage than going without stance, (Defiance - 1024 + 350 (1374) in 7 gcds, no stance 1300 potency in 6 GCDs). On the 7th GCD no stance will overtake, and be farther ahead in the combo, gaining ground on each combo. Butcher's Block is also stronger than Storm's Path, and you can use that since you're not gaining beast gauge. This is more pronounced if you're spamming overpower.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:37 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:I have like six or seven character of various levels, including a second Elezen. I actually like ARR content and I enjoy the low-level areas a lot - especially La Noscea - so I end up making new characters after I have to take long breaks. Only three of them stuck long-term. Who hurt you like this
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:50 |
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Eopia posted:Who hurt you like this
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:51 |
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Is BLU in two hours or eleven? I'm getting conflicting reports! I just want to experience the terror of having to deal with those horrifying Gigantoads again!
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:51 |
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Defiance will be less damage than going without stance, (Defiance - 1024 + 350 (1374) in 7 gcds, no stance 1300 potency in 6 GCDs). On the 7th GCD no stance will overtake, and be farther ahead in the combo, gaining ground on each combo. Butcher's Block is also stronger than Storm's Path, and you can use that since you're not gaining beast gauge. This is more pronounced if you're spamming overpower. Without Defiance on you don't get IB which makes your berserk feel anemic and makes the class boring. You'll always have unchained with your berserk in raids and trials so the math should be mapped through berserk and the full berserk cooldown. I'm fairly certain that the math behind berserk with lined up IBs and unchained means you should always use defiance in raids and trials even if you're not tanking. Even if the math doesn't add up, not using defiance seems boring as gently caress anyways.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 06:51 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Is BLU in two hours or eleven? I'm getting conflicting reports! Neither, should be three or four.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:11 |
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O12S down! Fantastic fight, I greatly enjoyed both the twins and final omega form. We only made it past Hello World 2 for the first time tonight and got to 2% enrage on that pull, clearing it the next time we managed to make it through HW2 cleanly. I'm pretty jazzed we cleared everything w/out using any guides. Alphascape is my most liked raid tier of stormblood, I'm really excited for the raids in Shadowbringers. (I think Coil 2 is still my favorite overall tier, having done them all when they were current)
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:13 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:So at low levels, Defiance is really only useful against bosses or other single large enemies, since Overpower is your best DPS at 260/gcd as long as there are at least two enemies in the cone. I'd argue Defiance is less useful on single a large target, since their damage is generally very predicable. In theory you can cover most of the important hits with your defensive cooldowns and you won't need the extra oomph that Defiance gives you. Warriors are unique in that their stance doesn't prevent damage, so you take damage very predictably. Paradoxically, large groups of regular mobs however deal a much higher, much less predictable damage output. At the time you'd want to spam overpower for maximum dps, you might actually need the extra healing / steel cyclone or even aggro generation. That said it's pretty moot sub level 54. You don't have any offensive options, so the default stance is slightly better on paper than the penalty you get from Defiance. When you get Deliverance and Fel Cleave, the stances really start to spread apart. jokes posted:Without Defiance on you don't get IB which makes your berserk feel anemic and makes the class boring. I just threw it into a spreadsheet. For every 90s window, no stance can do 9260. Staying in Defiance, using unchained, berserking with 100 energy and an infuriate to get 3 IBs, Defiance put out 8990. Uses infuriate on cooldown and whatnot. Assuming a Crit/DH does 200% damage, as a few minutes testing in game did. Minimal difference, and assumes a 0 % crit/dh outside of berserk. Stanceless would also be boring as you say. I'm not saying either way is better / worse, just some numbers.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:15 |
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I just threw it into a spreadsheet. For every 90s window, no stance can do 9260. Staying in Defiance, using unchained, berserking with 100 energy and an infuriate to get 3 IBs, Defiance put out 8990. Uses infuriate on cooldown and whatnot. Assuming a Crit/DH does 200% damage, as a few minutes testing in game did. Dude you're awesome for handling the due diligence, I had also been curious about the hard numbers honestly. Did you calculate berserk with 3 IBs and a butchers block?
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:19 |
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jokes posted:Dude you're awesome for handling the due diligence, I had also been curious about the hard numbers honestly. Berserk has 3 IBS, Maim, and Storm's Eye. (4.17 attacks in 10 seconds with a 2.4 gcd. It's probably actually too tight to fit that maim, but I wanted to give Defiance the advantage. Unchained also drops before the first IB to maximize its usefulness) I normally go with Eye, Path, Path, Eye combos, for maximum gauge growth and 100% slash uptime. If we could drop that Storm's Eye out and put in a BB, you could put another 40 potency in towards full Defiance. (20 difference * 2 for direct crit) It was a quick hack job spreadsheet so I've likely could optimize both sides slightly.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:34 |
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I think you did a good job of showing how slight the advantage is but also pointing out the technical advantage. I personally think in real-world usage, you'll get more mileage out of the defiance burst vs the no-stance game since a lot of bosses have you moving around doing poo poo. I think I do WAR right but it's hard to say. On a new boss I'll do a maim/storms eye combo, then alternate BB combos and the 30 gauge ability to get gauge up to 100, refreshing maim/storms eye as necessary. Then I pop berserk and friends, hit a BB, and then 3 IBs/fell cleaves. Whether it's mathematically the best way to do it, it does sate my constant addiction for buzzsaw sound effects that I got the first time I clicked fell cleave.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 07:45 |
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I really like the Orbonne healer armor.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 08:00 |
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Oracles were such a weird class in FFT it they definitely weren't healers.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 08:22 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:The female Elezen dance looks exactly like what you would get if you just randomly asked someone to dance with no music or prompting. Elezen are like anti-elves: their emotes usually wind up looking really expressive and kinda dorky instead of being cool and elegant, and I love it. Also, that’s a lot of alts. Whatever’s fun though! The early game really is kind of charming, and I don’t think people give it enough credit for that. your characters do kinda look like you split my WoL in two though. Gally posted:O12S down! Congratulations! I’m about past O11S after way too much static drama, and what I’ve seen of O12S, clearing it (or O11S, or even O10S for that matter) is no small feat. Especially without guides. That said, I’d like to say that Alphascape can’t be the best raid tier, because O10S still exists.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 09:31 |
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O10: First mechanic, don't fall asleep to the music. The loving narcolepsy-inducing music.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:08 |
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put the bi in bicycle posted:all racial dances are awkward, as it should be The highlady dance is pretty much the perfect way to show you aren’t paying attention when being yelled at to stop healer dpsing so much.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:09 |
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lol. The Blue Mage storyline is basically "Hey! Do you like cultural appropriation?! WE SURE DO!"
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:29 |
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Tank stance on for trash mobs (your healer gets to dps more and their heart won't explode), tank stance off for bosses. Congrats you now know how to tank every dungeon in the game. If you have a monster dps that won't use their aggro dump, don't be ashamed to turn tank stance back on for a bit on bosses. It sucks and watching them die is really fun, but in the end it just wastes everyone's time.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:34 |
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Looks like Blue Mage just dropped a little while ago. There's only a few hundred people around the starting NPC for the quest.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:41 |
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Mordiceius posted:lol. The Blue Mage storyline is basically "Hey! Do you like cultural appropriation?! WE SURE DO!" On the plus side, we can add beat a giant krakken to death armed only with an ordinary, non-enchanted stick to the WoL's resume.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 10:47 |
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King of the Cosmos posted:Looks like Blue Mage just dropped a little while ago. There's only a few hundred people around the starting NPC for the quest. Also some people already hit level cap which is pretty funny.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 11:20 |
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I resubbed and I'm tempted to just start a new character because I have no goddamn idea what to do with this Lv.37 monk I have.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 11:34 |
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Republicans posted:I resubbed and I'm tempted to just start a new character because I have no goddamn idea what to do with this Lv.37 monk I have. Start a new job at level 1.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 11:39 |
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Republicans posted:I resubbed and I'm tempted to just start a new character because I have no goddamn idea what to do with this Lv.37 monk I have. Push a button and then push the next button that unlocks. It's MNK, it's actually quite difficult to play wrong at that level.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 11:53 |
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Unlocked BLU before heading into work this morning. Hopefully by tonight people will have learned that the mobs have to cast the spell before you kill them. Took several tries with people focus firing my bat before I got one that stayed alive long enough to blood drain someone and I learned the spell. Also the biggest challenge of the questline: so many people around every quest NPC that they keep phasing out of existence. unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Kanfy posted:Also some people already hit level cap which is pretty funny. The XP bonus for killing poo poo is extremely real, and Water Cannon seems to chunk poo poo five or six levels above me pretty hard.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 11:56 |
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Kanfy posted:Also some people already hit level cap which is pretty funny. Apparently using N-Than methods
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:16 |
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Stormgale posted:Apparently using N-Than methods N-Than methods?
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:30 |
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ImpAtom posted:N-Than methods? fate trains in north thanalan god I haven't thought about those for years, thank gently caress Also if anyone wants a guide to BLU skills, there's one in that link. Spoilers I guess, but it helps with figuring out what the gently caress you need to kill.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:31 |
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My level 14 BLU can smash level 26 sabotenders by sleeping them with Acorn Bomb, casting Off-Guard, and chain casting 1000 Needles until it actually hits.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:33 |
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Ignimbrite posted:fate trains in north thanalan Wouldn't you get nothing from them since they're level 49 or am I misunderstanding?
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:34 |
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Ignimbrite posted:fate trains in north thanalan Ah, memories.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:34 |
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You'd get the actual kill XP but not much of the fate XP until about level 40. But it's actually have regen healer + shield healer with you but outside party go north thanlan let healers regen + shield you go pull all mobs around you they will go to regen healer and then they kill em easy exp and blue mage to 50 in 50 mins Since that's on I'm assuming the efficiency will drop sharply if enough people on a server try that method, though.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:41 |
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Also note that any version of a mob that casts a particular spell seems to count, which is handy for the easier or more common critters that are getting mobbed in certain locations right now.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 13:02 |
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It does seem very strange to me that a class specifically barred from using the random dungeon finder would have so many skills that can only be learned from dungeons and trials. It's such a weird idea for a class in an MMO, and I think blue mage is going to end up like it usually is in FF: either completely useless or blatantly overpowered depending on the individual.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 14:54 |
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Cythereal posted:It does seem very strange to me that a class specifically barred from using the random dungeon finder would have so many skills that can only be learned from dungeons and trials. It's such a weird idea for a class in an MMO, and I think blue mage is going to end up like it usually is in FF: either completely useless or blatantly overpowered depending on the individual. Oh it’s already pretty clear that BLU is outrageously overpowered. One shotting mobs ten levels higher than themseves. Given that it’s primarily a solo Job I think that’s kind of the idea. The dungeon and trial spells are simple: You just bring a premade of Blue Mages who thirst for magic.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 15:04 |
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BLU is pretty fun and also the /vpose has probably the smuggest expression they've put in the game yet.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 15:06 |
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Cythereal posted:It does seem very strange to me that a class specifically barred from using the random dungeon finder would have so many skills that can only be learned from dungeons and trials. It's such a weird idea for a class in an MMO, and I think blue mage is going to end up like it usually is in FF: either completely useless or blatantly overpowered depending on the individual. Party Finder? I think it's sensible to gate them out considering how they'd clown on the other jobs.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 15:10 |