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Kurash posted:This is disingenuous as gently caress seeing as how there's half a dozen luchadores that show up as a 'special attraction' then shuffled to the lower midcard for sporadic appearances. Yes, this is largely due to them not being in AEW proper before being signed, but I think it's a valid complaint when these wrestlers aren't given enough time or push to really get past that 'special attraction' status... Especially when it's been a pattern for some time for many wrestlers. Yes Dralistico occupies exactly the same spot, being in a faction with RUSH, as Komander, who doesn't really have any allegiances, picks up wins occasionally, but is mostly used to pop the crowd for battle royales. What the gently caress are you talking about?
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Pylons posted:Yes Dralistico occupies exactly the same spot, being in a faction with RUSH, as Komander, who doesn't really have any allegiances, picks up wins occasionally, but is mostly used to pop the crowd for battle royales. What the gently caress are you talking about? That sounds like they really are the same thing when there's no opportunity to learn or care about these wrestlers.
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Kurash posted:That sounds like they really are the same thing when there's no opportunity to learn or care about these wrestlers. I care about them. Maybe grow a bigger heart?
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My WWE viewing habits haven't changed since 2019 and they've done nothing to get me to watch any more than in this pattern: Watch Royal Rumble, catch a couple Smackdowns, fast forward through a RAW or two until Mania. Watch Mania, get upset. Watch the RAW After, get upset. Stop watching anything even on demand, but stay informed through the internet because I'm a sicko. Watch Summerslam, get upset. Wait until Royal Rumble, repeat cycle. It definitely hasn't gotten better, that twitter person is delusional.
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Kurash posted:That sounds like they really are the same thing when there's no opportunity to learn or care about these wrestlers. Should one of them throw a pie?
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When was Dralistico pushed as a special attraction?
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They should be treated like the Lucha Bros and have opportunities to exhibit and grow their charactersLamuella posted:When was Dralistico pushed as a special attraction? My bad for choosing the one name that got shuffled away even without the customary rub
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"Shuffled away"
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It's really cool that AEW brings in guys from other promotions that I'm invested in because of those promotions as special attractions. Makes the wrestling world feel bigger
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Pylons posted:"Shuffled away" Third guy behind Preston Vance. Yeah
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The_Rob posted:https://x.com/wrestlepurists/status/1716124342931640827?s=46&t=ZOgtjsgQ2j9jWfsJ7rwNNA Weren't they recently making GBS threads themselves over a 45 minute promo segment?
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Kurash posted:My bad for choosing the one name that got shuffled away even without the customary rub Weird, it's almost like you didn't have half a dozen examples.
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Lamuella posted:Weird, it's almost like you didn't have half a dozen examples. Having three real examples in Bandido, Komander and Vikingo (despite being unmasked is still unpushed, unbuilt and unused) is three too many. We'll see how Mistico plays out
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Kurash posted:Having three real examples in Bandido, Komander and Vikingo (despite being unmasked is still unpushed, unbuilt and unused) is three too many. We'll see how Mistico plays out Bandido is injured and Komander is the only other person on the roster in that list.
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Kurash posted:Having three real examples in Bandido, Komander and Vikingo (despite being unmasked is still unpushed, unbuilt and unused) is three too many. We'll see how Mistico plays out Bandido's been out with injuries since June. I don't believe Vikingo is under contract.
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mooseinfants posted:WWE has definitely improved. It's gone from a 2/10 to a 4-5/10. Still not nearly good enough, but a lot of the hilariously bad nonsense stuff they used to do has mostly stopped, which is a shame because I've really grown to enjoy stuff like that the last few years And it turns out unfortunately that 4-5 out of 10 is enough for a depressing amount of people
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Dying on a hill for your opinion by making a big derail in the bad opinion thread is certainly a choice.LionYeti posted:And it turns out unfortunately that 4-5 out of 10 is enough for a depressing amount of people
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The idea that the audience might be fatigued by 'special attractions' when they've been historically mishandled is a fine hill to die on. I can eat a probe for a derail
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Going back to the original tweet, I also like how they framed that bad era of WWE as "late 2010's" as if that wasn't like, 3 years ago.
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Bonk posted:"WWE doesn't have overly scripted promos anymore!" THE TRIAL OF ROMAN REIGNS. Remember, if the Bloodline is involved it's the greatest goddamn thing to ever happen and Roman Reigns is the greatest of all time.
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Dralistico's never really been used as a Special Attraction, just a midcarder. I think Vikingo's last couple of TV appearances could have been made to feel more special - teaming him with Action Andretti & Darius Martin against Bullet Club Gold in a random Collision job was beneath him.
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Kurash posted:The idea that the audience might be fatigued by 'special attractions' when they've been historically mishandled is a fine hill to die on. I can eat a probe for a derail Drakkel posted:Going back to the original tweet, I also like how they framed that bad era of WWE as "late 2010's" as if that wasn't like, 3 years ago. But you're not wrong - I've seen people nostalgic for the WWE Thunderdome, as opposed to live crowds. THAT's an insane take.
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I watched some of raw like 2 weeks ago or something, after having not watched in probably years. it wasnt bad but I would still probably watched the worst episode of dynamite from the past 3 years than it. seths gimmick is awful though. just terrible.
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Kurash posted:They should be treated like the Lucha Bros and have opportunities to exhibit and grow their characters I agree with you in principle here but realistically TK is not going to give a meaningful push or a title belt to anyone who's not signed full time. That's just how it is
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Drakkel posted:Wasn't that last couple years of HHH-booked NXT also kinda bad? Like, I think some people are just expecting WWE to suddenly become a completely different show when that's not really gonna happen. It was, it got badly exposed once they moved to 2 hours live instead of 1 hour taped. Ringo Roadagain posted:I watched some of raw like 2 weeks ago or something, after having not watched in probably years. it wasnt bad but I would still probably watched the worst episode of dynamite from the past 3 years than it. seths gimmick is awful though. just terrible. It's absolutely wild, a good episode of RAW is basically on the level of an episode of Dynamite where everyone immediately goes AEW IS SO DONE when it finishes. WWE quality is graded on such a curve that it's nigh impossible to tell when someone genuinely thinks that a WWE match was great or if it was just great in comparision to the average WWE match. Testekill fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Oct 22, 2023 |
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Reddit about Lexis King posted:I think he deserves an honest chance with proper coaching and developmental. Not many people could have made much of themselves being just thrown out there the way he was. He's not a bad guy so I'm looking forward to seeing if he can cut it now that he's being given real training beyond just the fundamentals. I wonder what these people believe wrestlers did before the Performance Center was created. Beepie went to wrestling school and has wrestled ~350 matches since 2018. The average wrestler trying to make it would have killed for the opportunities he was given
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JUNGLE BOY posted:I wonder what these people believe wrestlers did before the Performance Center was created. Beepie went to wrestling school and has wrestled ~350 matches since 2018. The average wrestler trying to make it would have killed for the opportunities he was given They're convinced the performance centre can mold anyone from raw clay into a main eventer citing such examples as
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Lid posted:They're convinced the performance centre can mold anyone from raw clay into a main eventer citing such examples as Bianca Belair is the only one I can think of, and I'm not sure how she (or anyone else in the WWE system besides the few joshi they've hired) would handle wrestling a match she hasn't rehearsed a billion times, or even someone who doesn't work the WWE house style.
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CombineThresher posted:Bianca Belair is the only one I can think of, and I'm not sure how she (or anyone else in the WWE system besides the few joshi they've hired) would handle wrestling a match she hasn't rehearsed a billion times, or even someone who doesn't work the WWE house style.
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Bonk posted:It's always really telling whenever a WWE wrestler jumps to AEW but then kinda sucks for a month or two while they adjust, and then they find their niche and turn out better than they ever were. Yeah, that WWE house style isn't really compatible with anything outside their system. The other option is to do what Matt Cardona did and somehow successfully work the fact that he still kinda sucks into his gimmick for heat.
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Kurash posted:This is disingenuous as gently caress seeing as how there's half a dozen luchadores that show up as a 'special attraction' then shuffled to the lower midcard for sporadic appearances. Yes, this is largely due to them not being in AEW proper before being signed, but I think it's a valid complaint when these wrestlers aren't given enough time or push to really get past that 'special attraction' status... Especially when it's been a pattern for some time for many wrestlers. Dralistico was brought in as a guy without a contract to do jobs, not as a special attraction. Of the guys in the regular lower midcard who got a special attraction billing... it's Komander. And that billing was for a multiman ladder match. The only one who hasn't really gotten past special attraction status is Vikingo, because yes he is not signed so they just bring him in for fun matches when they can. He's also not a masked guy.
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those goddamn interchangeable masked wrestlers like Vikingo, Rush and Andrade
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https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1716166049366688020 peak fed brain. tony khan is apparently weak for paying for his workers medical bills.
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Ringo Roadagain posted:https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1716166049366688020 With all due respect to Darby, I don't think he could rack up enough medical bills for it to financially matter to TK in any real way. There are touring shows of people doing stunts like that night after night, so is it even more dangerous than a typical Darby match?
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beepo posted:With all due respect to Darby, I don't think he could rack up enough medical bills for it to financially matter to TK in any real way. Dammit now you've laid down the gauntlet
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