Grondoth posted:

wanna see that post

Prester Jane posted:

I'mma be blunt here. Hillary lost the election because she was running for the position of chief administrator of America International Holdings LLC, not for the position of President of the United States of America. Hillary was trying to play office politics on the national scale, and while her tactics did succeed in severely hampering Bernie Sanders they failed massively to win over the American people. A leader can inspire people and motivate them to work together in common cause, and say what you will about Hillary's impressive list of credentials not a bit of that is able to motivate or lead people. Hillary was basically shopping her resume during the campaign, not trying to lead the American people. Further Hillary has never shown that she has any concept of what leadership actually is and her actions since losing have done nothing but demonstrate that point further. Hillary was a general who was handed control of the army during an important battle- a battle which she lost primarily because of pure hubris. When you are leader it does not matter what actually happened-it is always your fault.

If Hillary actually was a real leader (and not a puffed up administrator) that book would be a list of where she went wrong and how she thinks future Democrats can avoid her mistakes. Instead it is an ode to why she thinks she deserved to win and why she would have been the bestest administrator ever. It doesn't even matter whether that is how she privately felt about the matter or not, a leader would have written a book that they thought could help improve the party, nto a book that kvetches ab out how unfair everything was and how her failure to lead is a result of the incompetence/malfeasance of outside actors.

A leader shows, not tells. Hillary had endless well-annotated lists of her telling, but she never ocne understood the importance of showing. In point-of-fact a number of her actions (the way she handled the Goldman Sachs speeches for example) demonstrate that she had no concept and no intention of showing real leadership. She just wanted to pontificate over her reams of studies that declared her correct instead of actually doing some loving leading.

Over Easy posted:

I am remiss that I must betray my ignorance in front of the whole suck zone thread, which I respect with the same important feelings that you would show when you become a pope or get selected be be the alternate to go on the moon landing, but what do the data centers do?

Is it just the place where the criminal dick pictures are separated from the dick pictures that are keeping the economy going?

Where the isms are applied to the profiles and put in the digital dossiers? Where the government divides the budweiser people from the miller people, the peter pan from the jiff, the pokemon from the digimon, the digipet from the tamagotchi, the black and mild from the phillies blunt, those who think bad times are coming from those who know they are?

Is the data center a physical place or is it a description of a mindset in which the idea of data is placed at the center of one's being, like what had seemed to happen to Robby Mook, based on the book we read by Donna Brazile?

Oh Snapple! posted:

got any sevens posted:

they're where ossof's personality is molded by nanomachines. he wants them consolidated to increase their rate of learning so they can evolve into skynet faster

doomisland posted:

Aren't a lot of the federal data centers just the extra closet where the business internet line and a local server are for the office space? Since they have IT things they're a data center.

Willa Rogers posted:

I just had a laff thinking of the suckers standing in line on election nite at 6 pm and waiting till 2 am when podesta came out and said "it's not over yet but go home" while clinton threw glasses of white wine against her hotel room wall.


or at least the glass holding her wine.

Rand alPaul posted:

Is this the official story? For so long it was that she attacked Robbie Mook which I wanted to be true.

Over Easy posted:

Squizzle posted:

ScrubLeague posted:

i'm at work and we're still alive sounds pretty bad

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

first good PJ post in ages

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

the virtue was the sooner the left realized they weren’t meaningfully challenging 2016 the better

Jeb! Repetition posted:

The D&D meme that because Bernie isn't a true socialist he needs to be punished, and the best way to do so is supporting Hillary instead since it doesn't matter anyway, is some of the dumbest poo poo I've ever come across on the internet and you all oughta be ashamed of yourselves.

Dirk Pitt posted:

Morning suck zone!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

democrats think people really care about the savings from data center consolidation

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

democrats are a waste, which makes bernie very suspect for wanting to reform them instead of destroy them

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Vox Nihili posted:

i also recall "bernie doesnt support reparations" week fondly

also, "bernie doesnt believe in open borders" week

the main takeaway from the whole thing is that the vicious & paranoid yet somehow cowardly centrists need to be dispatched ten times more brutally next time around. as soon as we have a candidate (in any race really but im talking about the presidential primary here), open & total war on anyone who supports anyone else

Vox Nihili posted:

OH and another thing, when hillary inevitably endorses some shitheel the association between hillary and said shitheel should be pounded on every single day

lotsa centrist dummies still think hillary is cool so they wont understand that its actually megabad to be associated with her post-2016, given her hyper-bad favorable #'s (centrists don't understand data). in reality shes a toxic asset who kills votes & voter enthusiasm. casting anyone as "the hillary candidate" will be the best thing since sliced Jeb! in terms of souring every ounce of youth/progressive/activist enthusiasm or support

Vox Nihili posted:

i also recall "bernie doesnt support reparations" week fondly

also, "bernie doesnt believe in open borders" week

the main takeaway from the whole thing is that the vicious & paranoid yet somehow cowardly centrists need to be dispatched ten times more brutally next time around. as soon as we have a candidate (in any race really but im talking about the presidential primary here), open & total war on anyone who supports anyone else

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

https://twitter.com/timtakestime/status/929812776230453248

Vox Nihili posted:

i also recall "bernie doesnt support reparations" week fondly

Oh Snapple! posted:

After a year I'm still not sure which was skeevier.

"Bernie doesn't support reparations, what a racist piece of poo poo."

or

"Yeah the Clintons hit the black community with a double curbstomp that makes republicans jealous to this day through welfare reform and tough on crime, but black people asked for it, so shut up racist."

Jeb! Repetition posted:

This isn't even about centrists it's about a specific kind of hypocritical "socialist" pedant native and possibly unique to these forums.

Oh Snapple! posted:

After a year I'm still not sure which was skeevier.

"Bernie doesn't support reparations, what a racist piece of poo poo."

or

"Yeah the Clintons hit the black community with a double curbstomp that makes republicans jealous to this day through welfare reform and tough on crime, but black people asked for it, so shut up racist."

comedyblissoption posted:

i think you will find it very extremely pragmatic and the Adult Thing To Do to get wiped out at all levels of government across the country in the state legislatures, governorships, judicial appointments, congress, and the presidency

comedyblissoption posted:

i think you will find it very extremely pragmatic and the Adult Thing To Do to get wiped out at all levels of government across the country in the state legislatures, governorships, judicial appointments, congress, and the presidency

comedyblissoption posted:

i think you will find it very extremely pragmatic and the Adult Thing To Do to get wiped out at all levels of government across the country in the state legislatures, governorships, judicial appointments, congress, and the presidency

Vox Nihili posted:

(centrists don't understand data).