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Phoon posted:I've lost the hammer head from my iron ancestor send help IIRC the Urban Pattern one comes with the original's arms as well as its own, so you could grab one of them! I'd offer the spare from mine, but I've got a couple ideas in mind for using it in a conversion.
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I've got an urban pattern that I built and painted already. I have no idea where its spare arms went but I will look around for them
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Roughly how many points are the battlegroups? I've backed at the $235 level and I'm thinking Enforcers + FF + Asterians, since I'm excited about all three factions, and that gives me a good amount of variety for getting other people into the game. Haven't decided yet on my free vehicle, probably the Asterian flyer if it gets unlocked, otherwise the FF tank. I heard someone mentioning that the battlezones actually aren't a massive savings compared to just buying them retail, is that true? I'm thinking about adding on the landing pad sprue, since I'm also probably going to get the Deadzone starter before the Warpath KS ships next year, so I'll already have the terrain from that.
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All the battlegroups (apart from the vehicle ones of course) seem to be around the 1000-1100 point mark if you build them bone standard, though it looks like maybe they'll get up to 1300-1500 with more unlocks? Ajax isn't pointed at the moment, and it's added next, along with another Iron Ancestor for the Dwarves @ 170pts standard. Also you're better off getting the battlezones from a retail discounter like Miniature Market or Weyland, or whatever you have in your area, you'll get them sooner and cheaper by 5-10%, they're priced high so as not to annoy retailers. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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So they've announced GCPS rather than going for the Asterian flyer, but haven't really offered anything concrete like shots of renders or anything like that. I dunno why but I can't shake the distinct feeling that they're putting the cart before the horse on this one and really stretching themselves thin. The Corporation battlegroup includes: 30 GCPS Troopers. 2 tripod mounted Heavy Weapon Teams, which includes an additional 5-man plastic sprue and some metal parts to make the crew and an Engineer 1 Corporation Major-General figure 1 Strider (that can be built in Corporation, Enforcer, Plague or Rebs varieties) And very quickly afterwards, a $15 Corporation Mule Transport (see next stretch goal below!) They've also mentioned Marauder auxiliaries in the most recent update, but nothing on whether or not they'll be included at all in the KS. Drone fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 19:32
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All the Marauders they mention were in the first deadzone ks, they may be made available as add ons on wednesday, or added to the corporation group but I don't think they'll be funding any new models.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:38
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I really like the looks of that GCPS truck.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:51
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I really hope they fire-sale the old Corporation Marines in this, I'd love to pick up a few dozen.
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I'm not sure why I'm so cold on the GCPS. No new art, probably. Would be nice to get some indication that Veterans/Rangers/Marines all look at least a bit distinct. Hopefully we'll get that art soon, or an indication if any of the heavy weapons teams will end up looking much different. The not-warthog looks pretty cool, though I probably would have preferred it either being a tad shorter or a tad longer. Hopefully it gets a variant like the others that's a bit more heavily armored, just for some variety.
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parabolic posted:I'm not sure why I'm so cold on the GCPS. No new art, probably. Would be nice to get some indication that Veterans/Rangers/Marines all look at least a bit distinct. Hopefully we'll get that art soon, or an indication if any of the heavy weapons teams will end up looking much different. The Rangers are pretty different to the Marines/Veterans in restic, though the photography on the website really doesn't show that off. They have different rifles, different, enclosed helmets, and drop packs. Only shared components are the torso/legs pieces and the special weapon sprues for flamers etc. They really should've had individual-trooper pics up so you could actually tell.
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Hm. Well then hopefully there are enough upgrades on a particular sprue to support sufficiently distinct units. Makes sense, given the Steel Warriors upgrades. It would be a huge bummer to try to cobble restic Rangers into the mix. I am bullish on Warpath, but death to restic troopers.
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Finally tapped over 330k I feel like the 350 and 365 are the last two we get until the last 48 hour rush
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I guess these posts have made me a little weary of Mantic restic. Though honestly I'm still not sure what the major differences are between the casting materials. I guess hard plastic is good and restic is bad and resin has its place? I wonder if I haven't worked with restic before. As I mentioned before, I got one of the old elf army boxes from before the Kings of War 2 kickstarter. Everything has mold lines all the way around, which is annoying, but overall the models are alright and easy to chop up as necessary. Is this restic? For reference, here are the mostly completed Seaguard.  If these are restic I'm not super worried then. Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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I know next to nothing about Mantic games but I'm pretty stoked for some Squats and Space rats. From reading it looks like if I up my $235 pledge by say, $75 to $310 I could get 4 battlegroups, correct? If so how stupid would it be to double up on Forge Father and Veermyn battlegroups? Or should I do 1 battlegroup of each and then 1 vehicle battlegroup for each? Not sure what makes the most savings from a 'getting the most from your $$' perspective and also what will be viable in the game. (I'm assuming that the vehicle battlegroups and the troop battlegroups for the same faction are considered 2 separate battlegroups)
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I'm not even sure if battlegroup is an in game term for unit organization or strictly a marketing term for bulk troop purchases.
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Strictly marketing.
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I'm actually pretty excited for Warpath, since the setting seems to be a bit of Rogue Trader, a bit of Warzone and a whole lot of VOID. The Plague are basically Dark Legion x Genestealers x Koralon, and that's awesome.
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I like that the Warpath universe seems to be an updated 40k: where 40k was a satire of 80s Thatcherism, Warpath satirizes modern neoliberal capitalism. Also rat people and space dorfs, which rule.
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The Siege Strider needs a redesign badly, with that stupid camera on top it just looks like a fat dude with a beer gut
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Yeah, I like that Warpath basically is a modern take on the 40k satire concept. It's a pretty neat setting from what I've read, and I really really appreciate that it's NOT just war going on. I also super love that there will be both men and women on the GCPS trooper sprue. That's really refreshing compared to, say, GW's total lack of female Guard despite their presence in the fluff. I'm not sure how much GCPS I'll end up with compared to Enforcers or Asterians, but I definitely want enough for DZ (DZ forces are small enough to collect every faction :3) I rather disagree with Invictus on the Siege Strider. I think it looks great! EDIT: Oh hell yes. Mantic confirmed that the GCPS troopes will have gender-neutral bodies (becuase armor) with both male and female heads available. Rock on. Esser-Z fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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My coworkers rebs starter came in the mail today in a case so I had to check the fine print and there it was: "No one likes the coffee-flavoured rebels." And as an extra bonus, another guys enforcer starter has the hard plastic sprue instead of the old models.
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Esser-Z posted:I rather disagree with Invictus on the Siege Strider. I think it looks great! I think I'll buy at least a sprue of troopers even though I'm still pretty sold on Enforcer/Asterian
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Esser-Z posted:EDIT: Oh hell yes. Mantic confirmed that the GCPS troopes will have gender-neutral bodies (becuase armor) with both male and female heads available. Rock on. "There's no such thing, and Mantic's failure to understand this is why the Pathfinders look like arse. At least if this was another all-male kit it wouldn't actively hurt the chances of getting a competently designed female kit in the future." Tit plate and pin up hips, it's the Dakka way.
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Esser-Z posted:I rather disagree with Invictus on the Siege Strider. I think it looks great! 
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NTRabbit posted:"There's no such thing, and Mantic's failure to understand this is why the Pathfinders look like arse. At least if this was another all-male kit it wouldn't actively hurt the chances of getting a competently designed female kit in the future." Alex Holker. Has to be Alex Holker?
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Good thing it doesn't have a head! NTRabbit posted:"There's no such thing, and Mantic's failure to understand this is why the Pathfinders look like arse. At least if this was another all-male kit it wouldn't actively hurt the chances of getting a competently designed female kit in the future." These people have never looked at a woman in full military gear, have they? Like, a real person. Esser-Z fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Esser-Z posted:These people have never looked at a woman in full military gear, have they? Like, a real person. They also don't know what heels do or how breasts behave under clothing. I like a sexy mini or two mixed into the bunch, but the Pathfinders look cool to me so I'm probably too happy in the medium.
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Daedleh posted:Alex Holker. Has to be Alex Holker? Chicken dinner
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Esser-Z posted:Good thing it doesn't have a head!
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Captain Invictus posted:That's just the thing though. Having that little camera thing on top makes it look like it has a robo pinhead. You can build it without that bit. It's just a new addition to several different decorative bits you can put on the shoulders.
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The other Striders already established where the 'head' is, that's basically a hat. I may have asked before, but Is there any way to get the TK Dark Knights? I found a five-pack of the ones from the first KS, but they never seemed to have made it to general release.
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Trying to shop for minis without knowing how much they cost in game is nerve wracking. I guess I should be glad I won't be able to actually afford this stuff till I get Christmas money
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Captain Invictus posted:That's just the thing though. Having that little camera thing on top makes it look like it has a robo pinhead. I'm not seeing it, sorry! Speaking of heels, I really hope the guy in the KS comments asking for little heels he could attach to the female troopers' boots was joking, because that's such a ridiculous idea.
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signalnoise posted:Trying to shop for minis without knowing how much they cost in game is nerve wracking. I guess I should be glad I won't be able to actually afford this stuff till I get Christmas money http://manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Warpath-KS-Alpha-06-101.pdf New Mass Battle alpha, adds Asterian and GCPS (with Marauder mercs) lists, but no points for any of the Asterians yet. They've also turned a few things on their head - Asterians are now the most elite, as all their infantry are 3 to a stand instead of 5, and Forge Fathers are weaker than Enforcers per team. Also Mule for scale 
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Mule feels a little undersized if it's supposed to carry ten dudes, but I really like it overall.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I'm not even sure if battlegroup is an in game term for unit organization or strictly a marketing term for bulk troop purchases. So other than the duplicate named characters do you guys think it would be stupid to up my pledge from $235 to $310 so I could get 2 forge father and 2 veer-myn battlegroups? Or do you think I should do 1 forge father, 1 forge father vehicles, 1 veer-myn and 1 veer-myn vehicle group?
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Or you could skip out on the vehicles, double up on one team and buy a few extra of the 20 for $20 troops to flesh out the other side. I'm really not sure how integral vehicles are to the system yet but I'd hope footslogging would be just as viable.
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NTRabbit posted:http://manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Warpath-KS-Alpha-06-101.pdf Thanks for linking that, I read the first release and haven't reviewed it since. I did notice the Accuser Interceptor is taken in units of 2-3 so as it stands in the alpha the free vehicle in the $125+tiers won't be legally fieldable on its own. Which is odd.
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EdBlackadder posted:Thanks for linking that, I read the first release and haven't reviewed it since. I did notice the Accuser Interceptor is taken in units of 2-3 so as it stands in the alpha the free vehicle in the $125+tiers won't be legally fieldable on its own. Which is odd. Likewise for the walkers coming 1 at a time in Heracles and the battlegroups. It probably will be in Firefight though, I don't think any walkers or vehicles will come more than one at a time in those rules.
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