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TetsuoTW posted:How did you manage to post this from the 1970s? You know South Korea's been a first-world nation for a couple of decades now, right? It's not some backwater assfuck stilt-shack nation. It surprises me how many people think this, when Seoul is one of the largest growing cities in the world. Saerom (Where a lot of these animations go to) is a massive arthouse, and it isn't because they treat their people like crap. I got to meet the heads behind Dora the Explorer (who also worked on Avatar and Animaniacs) when they did a presentation for the kids at Yongsan, because one of the teachers knew one of the art directors at Saerom and asked her to bring them on post for the school. Jeff DeGrandis, by the way, is an awesome guy in real life.
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Banksy thinks it and he is the only guy who is not in the pocket of BIG ANIMATION, except when he is.
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TetsuoTW posted:How did you manage to post this from the 1970s? You know South Korea's been a first-world nation for a couple of decades now, right? It's not some backwater assfuck stilt-shack nation. The per hour wage for animators in Korea doing all the work for most shows (background painting, keys and inbetweens, clean up, etc) is lower than what interns just starting out get paid in my area to create stuff that gets shipped to them. The only exception I've found is the studios with heavy foreign influences on them, or are new companies like Studio Mir. (edit- I wasn't trying to imply they're a backwater country or industry when they're literally better at every step of animation than we are at this point) I probably wrote that way too bitchy but something like Bee and Puppycat does not need to be outsourced on cell animation when it literally adds nothing. You don't even see film grain or anything that makes cell animation worth doing like studio Ghibli. It's ridiculous.
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Hey, comparing wages across countries is only valid if you account for the cost of living and purchasing power of each currency. The cost of living in Korea is significantly cheaper than America for almost every city save the Seoul GMA, which is more expensive than New York for some reason, you butthurt nerdlord. edit- props for finding a totally not racist way to complain about outsourcing though!
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Reddart: Karma Come to Life Someone has decided to go one step further than making shirts with stupid memes on them. They are painting  comments on things now with possible shirts in the future. The Idea posted:Reddit can be a blackhole. So many people (80+ million unique users per month). So much content. And, so many opinions. For Reddit connoisseurs, they navigate it seamlessly while contributing to the dialogue. For a fair number of other people, it can be quite challenging to find what you are looking for. "Reddit connoisseurs"
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contrapants posted:Reddart: Karma Come to Life Hang in there baby - Weedlord Bonerhitler
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:Hey, comparing wages across countries is only valid if you account for the cost of living and purchasing power of each currency. The cost of living in Korea is significantly cheaper than America for almost every city save the Seoul GMA, which is more expensive than New York for some reason, you butthurt nerdlord. Reasons why outsourcing isn't always a great idea: development cost is bound to fluctuations between different currencies, language barriers and export/import taxes for non-domestic goods.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hang in there baby ----------------
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madeupfred posted:Reasons why outsourcing isn't always a great idea: development cost is bound to fluctuations between different currencies, language barriers and export/import taxes for non-domestic goods. Neat, thanks!
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:Neat, thanks! Don't act like the only reason people would be against THE GLOBAL MARKET is racism, and cut the passive aggressive bullshit.
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TetsuoTW posted:How did you manage to post this from the 1970s? You know South Korea's been a first-world nation for a couple of decades now, right? It's not some backwater assfuck stilt-shack nation. Hos come so many goons work there then?
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Usually a contract is worked out in advance that negates the issue of currencies changing relative values.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:The per hour wage for animators in Korea doing all the work for most shows (background painting, keys and inbetweens, clean up, etc) is lower than what interns just starting out get paid in my area to create stuff that gets shipped to them. The only exception I've found is the studios with heavy foreign influences on them, or are new companies like Studio Mir. (edit- I wasn't trying to imply they're a backwater country or industry when they're literally better at every step of animation than we are at this point) NO ONE uses cels anymore, and you are just showing your ignorance by harping on about how using "cells" is stupid, because they're not doing that. A cel is a sheet of celuloid or acetate onto which the outline image is applied (usually by some form of photocopying from the hand animated drawing) and onto which artists then apply actual paint. Even Studio Ghibli stopped using cels about half way through Princess Mononoke, in 1997 (some of that flim is cels, some is the drawings scanned into a computer and coloured digitally because they ran out of time). Disney's last cel based film was The Little Mermaid. The only people actually making cels these days are doing reproductions for the collectors market, not actual production art. It sounds like RDK do their initial animation on paper then scan it into a computer and colour/composite it digitally. This is a completely valid and extremely common way of doing animation in the modern world and as previous posts have said, it's what the RDK artists are good at and is quicker and easier for them than doing the drawings on a cintiq. They COULD buy a cintiq for every single animator and spend a bunch of time retraining them on the new kit and getting them to the point where they are as fast and skilled as they were on paper, but WHY? They're already fast and skilled using a technique that works perfectly well. It ain't broke. It doesn't need to be fixed. As for wages, Korea isn't a third world country, the options aren't work in an animation sweat shop or starve in the street. Fatkraken has a new favorite as of 22:33 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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madeupfred posted:Don't act like the only reason people would be against THE GLOBAL MARKET is racism, and cut the passive aggressive bullshit. as soon as that's the go-to talking points for the rectal pontifex at fox news i'll change my tune ps blow me you randroid gently caress also in this case horrible smutbeast is very obviously racist so gj on that reading comprehension homie
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Also the South Korean Won to USD exchange rate is really really stable.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:as soon as that's the go-to talking points for the rectal pontifex at fox news i'll change my tune I'm a little confused here. Given the fact that you seem to love free trade and outsourcing, wouldn't that make you the 'Randroid'?
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Tortuga posted:Hos come so many goons work there then?
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Fatkraken posted:NO ONE uses cels anymore, and you are just showing your ignorance by harping on about how using "cells" is stupid, because they're not doing that. Also, I highly doubt you'd see any sort of film grain anymore, even on totally hand-drawn productions. Film projection and distribution is basically all digital now and only getting moreso. There's really no reason to photograph a drawing with a film camera when it could be scanned with better quality. Nikaer Drekin has a new favorite as of 07:11 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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SaviourX posted:Oh hay, just to show how terrible IGG still is, one of their featured things in the latest newsletter is that junk science calorie counter thing. Which is well overfunded. gently caress this earth. In the old days you at least needed a bottle of snake oil separate rubes from their cash. These fuckers have no product and never will. And holy hell the amount of uncritical publicity they're getting for it. The magic food science laser phone is now a lifesaver! http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/tellspec-food-scanner/ http://tellspec.com isoprenaline has a new favorite as of 08:55 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1302528630/masters-of-anatomy MASTERS OF ANATOMY *does not actually contain masters or anatomy* Basically seems to be a kickstarter selling a book full of OCs that this guy recieved for free from artists that wanted to contribute, and has greatly exceeded it's goal. Honestly some of the art is pretty good, I guess i'm mostly concerned about it's title. cmykJester has a new favorite as of 01:17 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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YKS posted this gem of a kickstarter last night. It basically boils down to, "pay me for waiting in line to buy a game console that I could have ordered and gotten from an online purchase!"
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Noyemi K posted:YKS posted this gem of a kickstarter last night. It basically boils down to, "pay me for waiting in line to buy a game console that I could have ordered and gotten from an online purchase!" This could've been a semi-interesting premise if he expanded to other tech launches that draw lines (iOS device refreshes, etc)- even if that gets done to death by every local news channel every time a new iPhone comes out. Who am I kidding- watch the video. This is just an unwashed weeaboo masturbating over the Xbone.
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If your project is for a film, "documentary," whatever, and you demonstrate right in the pitch video that's supposed to sell us on why the world needs your video-making talents, and you don't have the first idea about lighting, framing shots, capturing audio, the rules of editing, etc... I don't know, you should be lowered feet-first into a volcano. I mean I get if your Kickstarter is for bespoke oven mitts or your great idea for a truck-bed-liner or whatever you might not be able to make Scorsese up your pitch video, but if you're alleging to be working actual "documentary" maybe slouched, badly framed, in a poorly lit room isn't the way to go.
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Otisburg posted:If your project is for a film, "documentary," whatever, and you demonstrate right in the pitch video that's supposed to sell us on why the world needs your video-making talents, and you don't have the first idea about lighting, framing shots, capturing audio, the rules of editing, etc... I don't know, you should be lowered feet-first into a volcano. To take this one step further, you definitely shouldn't bill your employment as "independent documentary filmmaker."
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Otisburg posted:If your project is for a film, "documentary," whatever, and you demonstrate right in the pitch video that's supposed to sell us on why the world needs your video-making talents, and you don't have the first idea about lighting, framing shots, capturing audio, the rules of editing, etc... I don't know, you should be lowered feet-first into a volcano. But this isn't just about paying for his xbox, he has stretch goals! Such as a sequel called Why We Do Coke and Why We Do Coke Off A Hooker's Tits
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Alan Smithee posted:Why We Do Coke and Why We Do Coke Off A Hooker's Tits I would donate to those
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Noyemi K posted:YKS posted this gem of a kickstarter last night. It basically boils down to, "pay me for waiting in line to buy a game console that I could have ordered and gotten from an online purchase!" I really got the feeling that standing in line for the newest Xstation is the closest thing this person has to friends. And. I don't understand why he thinks is this unique to games or interesting at all. Companies hype poo poo to get people to buy poo poo. Stupid people wait in line to buy poo poo. The end.
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Alan Smithee posted:Not to mention created by what's clearly a bro's bro.
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"You are a super dog who owns a specially designed helicopter." A game being made by four guys who have apparently not played a video game since 1984.
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UncleSmoothie posted:"You are a super dog who owns a specially designed helicopter." It got cancelled practically the minute you linked it! Edit: Reads basically like that John Videogames kickstarter strip from PA. I did not know people like that existed. chucklefucks posted:We gathered in early May and began our ‘garage’ project. The project involves four eager guys and from then on, we have been working our butts off to create a game that will meet our and of course your standards. Our main goal is to create a game that will not only be very addictive, but will also look fantastic with a huge variety of levels, great music, in-game features, etc. … We cannot emphasise enough how strongly we believe that the FlyingPat will be a really good game. Noyemi K has a new favorite as of 17:39 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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UncleSmoothie posted:"You are a super dog who owns a specially designed helicopter." It looks like funding was canceled right after you posted this.
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contrapants posted:It looks like funding was canceled right after you posted this. Aw no, now we'll never have a shot at getting these super sweet pledge rewards:  
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Goddamnit goons this is who we should have funded not Dubious Dogs.
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Noyemi K posted:It got cancelled practically the minute you linked it! The got this far without comparing themselves to any other video games. I wonder what changed today.
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UncleSmoothie posted:"You are a super dog who owns a specially designed helicopter." Slovenian Jerkoff posted:Who are we? 
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