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Chadzok posted:the optimist in me tells me that this is getting out ahead and pre-empting any potential fraud bullshit taking hold in our electoral/political system, but that voice is just a doubtful sounding whisper now the optimist would be making a lot more sense if voter fraud was something we had any real issue with, but we plainly don't it's just to make it harder for certain demographics to vote. not only will they not be able to legally vote, they'll get the financial punishment for not voting. win-win!
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JBP posted:It's a fuckin American scam bro the 'australian way' is that participating in the scam is also mandatory
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Oct 28, 2021 05:00
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Hashy posted:You're in a country that is testing full blown denialism as a covid strategy 93% of adults being vaccinated isn't working out for Ireland right now. They had 13 ICU beds available in the whole country yesterday and their cases are still going up. Dropping the mask mandates at 90% is the dumbest loving thing. We might get away with it at first but I reckon we'll at least get a winter surge if we don't prepare for it with proper NPIs.
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the icac hearing over gladys and daryl has been pretty fun so far and keeps getting better after lunch https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-28/nsw-icac-live-updates/100572290 quote:GB: You don’t see it, I don’t want to argue with you, I just need to go and chill because you’ve stressed me out. gladys is back in for another round of testimony on monday. given that this is all just building to a recommendation from the icac, rather than any legal finding, i doubt any actual consequences will be forthcoming. but it's all a pretty wild look at how the corrupt sausage is made
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Phigs posted:93% of adults being vaccinated isn't working out for Ireland right now. They had 13 ICU beds available in the whole country yesterday and their cases are still going up. I agree with your point that high levels of vaccination aren't enough and dropping mask mandates and NPIs is a bad idea, but we are hopefully in a better position w.r.t ICU beds than Ireland which has a notably dysfunctional healthcare system. They have half the ICU beds per capita than Australia and one of the lowest rates in the OECD. We did poach a lot of their healthcare workforce, something like 300 Irish doctors move to Australia every year (they graduate 1200/year)
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Oct 28, 2021 06:00
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Sierra Madre posted:For anyone not aware: Oh for gently caress's sake. This poo poo not surfacing and being nearly impossible to implement is why I held up mandatory voting as actually a good thing.
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Oct 28, 2021 08:02
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How do postal votes work under the proposed voter id requirements?
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Oct 28, 2021 08:23
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yoloer420 posted:How do postal votes work under the proposed voter id requirements? I fully expect that within the decade we'll see the Coalition arguing we should remove mandatory voting.
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Oct 28, 2021 08:36
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Senor Tron posted:I fully expect that within the decade we'll see the Coalition arguing we should remove mandatory voting. They have been low key arguing it since the '80s
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Oct 28, 2021 08:46
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Sierra Madre posted:What a baffling proposal. I mean, we know why this is coming up, but I can't recall any election in the last ten years where voter fraud was even discussed. I kept half an eye on the House today at work and apparently this was actually recommended by a parliamentary committee report (and is in place in a lot of European democracies, not just the US). But those committees are obviously half LNP in the first place and I don't find it hard to imagine this being pushed in the party room for the very same reasons the Republicans are so keen on it. Labor, to their vanishingly rare credit, were extremely fiery about it today and explicitly called it voter suppression and said it was to disenfranchise immigrants, Aboriginals etc. Good on them for calling it out for what it is immediately.
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Oct 28, 2021 08:47
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:.... has there been any voter fraud other than politicans being done by the AEC? Alleged mailout vote stuffing at aged care homes by the libs lol.
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Oct 28, 2021 08:53
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yoloer420 posted:How do postal votes work under the proposed voter id requirements? Probably not too dissimilar to how they work now - kind of like a declaration vote. You'd write your name, address, sign it, and mail it in. One of the articles said that people who couldn't produce ID would do a declaration vote at the polling station and put in their DOB, address etc.
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Oct 28, 2021 09:15
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freebooter posted:I kept half an eye on the House today at work and apparently this was actually recommended by a parliamentary committee report (and is in place in a lot of European democracies, not just the US). But those committees are obviously half LNP in the first place and I don't find it hard to imagine this being pushed in the party room for the very same reasons the Republicans are so keen on it. I honestly thought we already had voter ID requirements given I flash my driver's license every election up until a few years ago. It would be similarly surprising to a lot of voters as well. Anyway a touch under 300 cases of Covid in NSW, this really is bizarrely low.....? Thought it would have taken off again even with the vaccination numbers
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yoloer420 posted:How do postal votes work under the proposed voter id requirements? Follow the strategy of some states republicans, claim it increased the fraud with nothing to back it up and then appoint someone to the auspost board to really gently caress it up
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Oct 28, 2021 09:59
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Solemn Sloth posted:the nick xenophobe ego trip will 100% support this This loving dud said this was incredibly important because he found out some pensioner with dementia voted 5 times. Never mind the fact that the AEC caught it and followed up.
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Oct 28, 2021 11:18
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Oh not for me today, thanks Officer Snout.
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Synthbuttrange posted:
You oppose Santos sinking another 5000 CSG wells but you had a beef burger once! How curious!
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Synthbuttrange posted:
What a disingenous sack of poo poo. He's truly the turd that refuses to flush.
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SuddenCactus posted:Follow the strategy of some states republicans, claim it increased the fraud with nothing to back it up and then appoint someone to the auspost board to really gently caress it up And then after spending a year alleging fraud in an election that didn't even happen yet, spend the year afterwards enacting some of the most insane disenfranchisement ever seen since the Jim Crow days! Oh and close every single place you can get ID. EDIT: I mean these fuckers made it illegal to hand out water or food at 10+ hour long voting lines (because they removed all the polling places and options), the absolute naked "we are desperate to stop people from voting" on display is both ridiculous and depressing for the fact that it keeps winning them elections. meteor9 fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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The most bizarre thing about this bill is that voting is, uh, mandatory in Australia. This is where the importation of American culture war tactics runs headlong into existing Australian authoritarianism.
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Oct 28, 2021 13:27
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What I like about mandatory voting in Australia is that I thought it was much harder to disenfranchise people. Turns out you just disenfranchise poor people, and then fine them for not voting too.
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Oct 28, 2021 13:31
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"gently caress anyone that isn't us" is the LNP way after all
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freebooter posted:The most bizarre thing about this bill is that voting is, uh, mandatory in Australia. This is where the importation of American culture war tactics runs headlong into existing Australian authoritarianism. Whoah there, you're violating my first amendment rights!
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Oct 28, 2021 14:14
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Anyway a touch under 300 cases of Covid in NSW, this really is bizarrely low.....? Thought it would have taken off again even with the vaccination numbers Incredibly encouraging, but Hunter New England is now getting the most cases and regional travel will be (officially) allowed again come Monday. The next couple of weeks will make or break us. Our immunisation rate is now moving at a snail's pace, although I expect it will pick up again when approval is given for 5-11 year olds. Hopefully Victorians can find some encouragement in how thinngs have played out in NSW since opening up.
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freebooter posted:The most bizarre thing about this bill is that voting is, uh, mandatory in Australia. This is where the importation of American culture war tactics runs headlong into existing Australian authoritarianism. What else is bizarre is that this Voter ID BS really only works when you make it very hard to *get* an acceptible govt ID. That's not really the case in Australia, there's a bunch of ID's you can use that are readily obtainable. Also in regards to other voter suppression tactics, the various election authorities have spent so much time on making voting as easy as possible and with the Aust attitude of "fuckit, lets do cool poo poo like Democracy Sausages and school fetes" it doesnt even make a lick of sense to be trying to adapt US style BS in a completely different enviroment.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:it doesnt even make a lick of sense Yeah but the yanks are doing it so culture war demands the Libs do it too This isn't the first time they've floated it either
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No wonder OUR GLADYS decided to pull the pin, the texts and phone transcripts coming out of ICAC are just  I'm surprised she didn't see the writing on the wall earlier, or was just trying to coast along as "my people need me!"
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Oct 29, 2021 01:45
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Yeah but the yanks are doing it so culture war demands the Libs do it too About 20 years ago NSW voters got sent a voter ID card. We didn't have to apply for it. I'm not sure what happened to the plan for it's use, but I had mine in my wallet for years as just another form of government issued ID. Capt.Whorebags posted:No wonder OUR GLADYS decided to pull the pin, the texts and phone transcripts coming out of ICAC are just What I've read has been pretty damning.
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Oct 29, 2021 01:54
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Given our electoral roll it seems easy to send electors a card they can use. I don't understand why you'd waste money on this though. E: given I can't see it reaping a shady reward for the coalition like it might in lesser democracies
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The Australian is planning to launch a youth section of the newspaper, aptly named The Oz. Unconfirmed reports say it will be online only and will have a strong social media presence. News Corp is advertising for a senior digital designer and social media staff for an “energetic startup” and is offering the “opportunity to design the brand from scratch”, according to ads on seek.com.au. There are few clues to what content is planned but the ad says the design style is “bold and refined”. It is certainly a bold idea to attract a young audience to what is traditionally seen as a brand for old white men. “Drive the audience development of a new publication within the News Corp family, targeting a young audience through a strong social strategy,” the job ad says. We asked the editor-in-chief, Christopher Dore, for comment but he didn’t reply.
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Oct 29, 2021 02:01
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Oh dear. Just saw that some of the ICAC stuff calls Perrottet's integrity into question. This is getting interesting.
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Oct 29, 2021 02:05
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Thank god young libs are out of touch, humourless idiots. Awaiting "a jam with scott" type content. Either that or "how to avoid paying tax on the money your parents gave you to pay your first home." Either way unless they get a bannon type to run it 100% going to fade away in a year or two
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Maybe the ID thing is just another grift for someone’s mate they’ll outsource to.
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Oct 29, 2021 03:10
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Get your Koala card from an approved retailer. 200pts of ID required.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:No wonder OUR GLADYS decided to pull the pin, the texts and phone transcripts coming out of ICAC are just Hopefully coming up to the election Morrisons condemnation of the NSW ICAC picking on poor Gladys can be used to add to the argument for a federal version.
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