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DEAD GAY FORUM posted:Did this mean I get in trouble if I tell a tank who is not in tank stance to get in tank stance? Or tell a healer to quit trying to dps? It's that compelling a play style? This isn't WoW healers are allowed to do more than press Cure once every 20 seconds. And in some cases they can out dps the actual dps!
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DEAD GAY FORUM posted:Did this mean I get in trouble if I tell a tank who is not in tank stance to get in tank stance? Or tell a healer to quit trying to dps? It's that compelling a play style? Canonically whm's who only cast cure are killing themselves, so it's the honest healers that are playing wrong and you are just concerned for their well-being.
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DEAD GAY FORUM posted:Did this mean I get in trouble if I tell a tank who is not in tank stance to get in tank stance? Or tell a healer to quit trying to dps? It's that compelling a play style? If you say something like "you're a healer you don't need to dps" it seems unlikely that you would get in trouble for it despite it being a stupid thing to say. If you say "If you don't stop dpsing I'm going to kick you" or continually harass someone about it that'll probably get you in trouble Jose Valasquez fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Feb 12, 2019 |
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Feb 12, 2019 18:56
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I would probably use a /fareasterndab emote.
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Feb 12, 2019 19:00
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So as someone who has completely ignored eureka and hasn't even done the quest to unlock it yet (i know where it is) what would I have to do to start working on the ozma mount? Do I have to go through the chain of all of the open zones, or can I start on hydratos?
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Failboattootoot posted:Canonically whm's who only cast cure are killing themselves, so it's the honest healers that are playing wrong and you are just concerned for their well-being. Not actually true! Sylphie's problem was not that she was only casting cure, but more that she was casting from her own health pool instead of borrowing heal-juice from the Elementals / aether / whatever.  Boogalo posted:So as someone who has completely ignored eureka and hasn't even done the quest to unlock it yet (i know where it is) what would I have to do to start working on the ozma mount? Do I have to go through the chain of all of the open zones, or can I start on hydratos? You'd have to go through them all. Hydatos starts at elemental level 50, which is where Pyros ends. On the plus side, the relic weapon isn't actually tied to your progression through at all, so the only thing you'd have to do if you just want the Ozma mount is level up. Though you'd probably want to fiddle with the logogram system once you reach Pyros.
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Feb 12, 2019 19:03
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A house plot finally opened up on the server that my FC has been waiting for, but it appears to be camped by bots that have not budged for 8 hours constantly checking for it to unlock. How are we supposed to compete with that?
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First, you have to do Anemos until Level 18, then you have to do Pagos until Level 35, then you have to do Pyros until Level 50 (and maybe get 30 logograms?). And then you have to do Hydatos. Keep in mind that this is a very long, tedious grind.
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Gotta start from the beginning. Anemos takes about 8-9 hours to go from 1 to 20. I’ll let you know how long it takes to hit 35. 
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Boogalo posted:So as someone who has completely ignored eureka and hasn't even done the quest to unlock it yet (i know where it is) what would I have to do to start working on the ozma mount? Do I have to go through the chain of all of the open zones, or can I start on hydratos? You have to go through the chain of all the open zones. In each zone you need to do the story, which requires levelling to the maximum level of that zone. If you are only interested in the mount, then you can completely skip the relic grind (which is separate and distinct) but hitting max level will still be a hefty time investment. Not horrible, but in no way trivial. Start in Anemos, you can probably get the first couple levels soloing mobs (this will be dull) but your primary objective is to find the NMs that pop as fate fights in the zone, and join the train of players running between each one. Killing NMs is how you will level your character at a rate approaching acceptable. In addition to NM farming you have a challenge log which will give you 2 full levels and change worth of exp rewards for killing enemies of certain types and elements. I recommend sitting on this until later in the week so some of the easier levels are out of the way, for better results. Do the logs every week. Groups tend to form in Anemos for it. I highly recommend having a TV show or a nintendo DS or a switch or something. You will be playing Eureka by not playing as much as possible.
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DontMindMe posted:A house plot finally opened up on the server that my FC has been waiting for, but it appears to be camped by bots that have not budged for 8 hours constantly checking for it to unlock. You'd be surprised. I have a couple of good friends on my server that have just sat there for the better part of a day to get a house, without any bot assistance. Get the piss bucket, I guess?
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Feb 12, 2019 19:09
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Putting the Ozma mount behind Eureka is more likely to make me quit outright than play through that loving garbage.
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That is also all assuming that AV isn't specifically designed to be as bullshit as the original so we'll see how long it takes somebody to actually clear the arsenal in the first place.
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Based on early reports, the arsenal is total bullshit so AV is probably going to be awful
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Feb 12, 2019 19:15
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Since you get ozma automatically once you clear arsenal once, theres decent chance the people who are good enough to clear it are going to do so and then not go back so if youre late to the party then youre out of luck
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Feb 12, 2019 19:16
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How long does it take to get a full HW (X Lux) relic these days edit: I guess it doesn't have to be lux, I just want the orb ast weapon and for it to look like the orb
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Since you get ozma automatically once you clear arsenal once, theres decent chance the people who are good enough to clear it are going to do so and then not go back comedy option, nobody gets the mount because it's total bullshit and not enough people want it that badly
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Feb 12, 2019 19:21
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There are 100% people who want it that badly and you know it
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Feb 12, 2019 19:27
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Truga posted:That's exactly why I want it. If it crashes and burns without the gigantic carrot at the end of the stick, it's not worth keeping. Remove all rewards from all content.
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Feb 12, 2019 19:28
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Mordiceius posted:Remove all rewards from all content. this but unironically item levels are dumb glamours own
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strong bird posted:How long does it take to get a full HW (X Lux) relic these days Anima's probably the easiest one to do at least, start to finish. Relic is still a loving nightmare, and Eureka has a ridiculous upfront investment.
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strong bird posted:How long does it take to get a full HW (X Lux) relic these days It's a decent grind. The big thing gating you is that you need like 7500 poetics over the steps.
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If you're gonna do an anima you might as well get the Lux, because the penultimate step (the one that gets you the cool fancy glowing weapon in the first place) is one of the longest and most tedious, and the final step is just a victory lap where you do a bunch of trials in sequence. You can skip the Lux if you like the original color better, I guess, but you can just buy the previous tier from the vendor anyway at that point. Yellow Terpander 4lyfe
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homeless snail posted:It will take a couple of weeks, depending on how you go about things. The good thing about anima at least is that there's multiple ways to finish nearly every step, depending on what resources you want to spend, and you can a lot of the time plan ahead and work on multiple steps at the same time. I'd rather do a dozen books than see one more chunk of umbrite. Anima is a thousand times worse than Zodiac and you'll never convince me otherwise. 
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Truga posted:this but unironically Nope. I said all rewards. No gear drops. No glamour drops. Nothing. No reward for any content.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:comedy option, nobody gets the mount because it's total bullshit and not enough people want it that badly There will be people who have it before the day is out
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it's been really fun to watch people try and puzzle out the arsenal bosses
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Since you get ozma automatically once you clear arsenal once, theres decent chance the people who are good enough to clear it are going to do so and then not go back drat. I guess I can't just ignore Hydatos and go back to Etrian Odyssey Nexus.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:drat. I guess I can't just ignore Hydatos and go back to Etrian Odyssey Nexus. you should absolutely ignore hydatos
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Wacky Delly posted:It's a decent grind. The big thing gating you is that you need like 7500 poetics over the steps.
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homeless snail posted:You can be much more efficient with your time than just throwing a million poetics at it though. That's the dumb way to do it Umbrite alone is 6k poetics.
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orcane posted:Umbrite alone is 6k poetics. It used to be 24k poetics, you people doing it now are living the good life in comparison.
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homeless snail posted:You can be much more efficient with your time than just throwing a million poetics at it though. That's the dumb way to do it orcane posted:Umbrite alone is 6k poetics. You need so much just for the umbrite, then you can throw extra poetics for the rest of the sand. The light step requires 500 poetics too. And the umbrite light stage where you're getting the drops for doing lldr can be bought for poetics as well. All that said, you can get poetics however you want. I had enough from doing lldr daily on off classes leveling them to 70 to get through a couple umbrite stages.
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I'm glad all the classes I want are leveled so I have nothing to spend poetics on but anima parts. I did one emergency mission in the Diadem and it was a shitshow, I don't have much hope the arsenal will be better. I'll probably get a couple more Anemos weapons and then never go back in again.
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:you should absolutely ignore hydatos But sunken cost.  Also, I need to finish collecting my cards. And I want Ozma.
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orcane posted:Umbrite alone is 6k poetics. I'm constantly at a loss for what to spend my poetics on so that sounds p cool. I think I already did that step though before I let my sub lapse. I should really continue that quest chain.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:But sunken cost. I'm right there with you. Its really the only reason I ended up doing pyros + now hydatos is because I wanted to finish out the relic weapon I started. Ozma would be really cool but having to jump through a bunch pf hoops just to gain entrance to a dungeon where you are counting on 55 other random people with extremely punishing failures might just be past my limit of what Im willing to put up with.
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IcePhoenix posted:I'm constantly at a loss for what to spend my poetics on so that sounds p cool. Only up to 6500 poetics are "mandatory" but there are plenty of opportunities on the way to speed up the process with poetics (and you can't spend them on the later part materials until you reach those with your first relic, so might as well spend them instead of sitting on capped poetics): Step 1 - grind fates in HW zones (no alternative) Step 2 - go through a bunch of level 50 hard mode and HW leveling dungeons (no alternative) Step 3 - buy total of 4 x 10 unidentified materials (150 poetics each, can also bought for beast tribe tokens, alex drops, allied seals and maps) and 4 x 4 special items (craft, buy them for 5000 GC seals each, or buy off market board) Step 4 - collect 5 aether oil (5 weeks of the Crystal Tower weekly quest or buy them for 350 poetics each) Step 5 - collect up to 80 umbrite (with RNG luck this can get down to 75 or even 70 but don't count on it) for 75 poetics each (no alternative), and about 35 to 40 crystal sand (various options, the popular ones are: poetics, GC seals/moonstones, materia, blue scrip tokens from red scrips, amber encased vilekins from HW combat leve chests) Step 6 - collect 50 singing clusters (daily 50/60dr quest + weekly quest for 3x LLDR, or buy them for 40 poetics each) Step 7 - collect 15 pneumite (100 poetics each, or 4000 GC seals each), farm light Step 8 - victory lap through trials, buy archaic enchanted ink for 500 poetics
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FF14 has easily the nicest online community I've seen in a game so I wonder what prompted the rule changes
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FactsAreUseless posted:FF14 has easily the nicest online community I've seen in a game so I wonder what prompted the rule changes Wow transplants most likely.
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