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Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
Glad they didn't opt for that middle concept Eve. The single sleeve and a neckguard collar thing, the single leg of open toe-heel tights. Just no.

Should we start a count of wrecked flight suits while we're still only at the first ending? Just counting 9S and 2B, it's what? 7? 2 for the tutorial, 2 for the double Engels, 2 for the ocean boss, and 1 here.


The Dark Id posted:

This camp was already kind of cramp.

But... it’s entirely unnamed androids ones we didn’t know.

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Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Zagglezig posted:

Glad they didn't opt for that middle concept Eve. The single sleeve and a neckguard collar thing, the single leg of open toe-heel tights. Just no.

Should we start a count of wrecked flight suits while we're still only at the first ending? Just counting 9S and 2B, it's what? 7? 2 for the tutorial, 2 for the double Engels, 2 for the ocean boss, and 1 here.

Probably a lot of them got wrecked by ocean boss since a bunch of other yorha androids were supposed to be uselessly buzzing around then.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

They really should invent a cheaper option for getting androids down to the surface. Like shoving them in a can and dropping it.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



The Lone Badger posted:

They really should invent a cheaper option for getting androids down to the surface. Like shoving them in a can and dropping it.

They have a cheaper method. It's the vending machines.

It's just some people have to try and show off.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Kavak posted:

Poor 9S, a few minutes earlier and he would have been really cool and useful and 2B would totally have gone to the dance with him and...

2B would rather go to the dance with Eve, and he's trying to murder her right now.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
One thing to note is that when the balls roll around they make this hilarious "tire squealing on road" noise.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.
Anybody who complains about any part of a rocket-powered mecha bodyslam from outer space needs to reevaluate their priorities in life. :colbert:

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Ratoslov posted:

2B would rather go to the dance with Eve, and he's trying to murder her right now.

I would totally watch a Nier:A high school OVA.

Given the spread of media used so far in this franchise, such a thing is also less unlikely than one might think.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!
Well, there was that Drakengard 2: Highschool write-up that the dev team did for a laugh.

vdate
Oct 25, 2010
I just love that 9S doesn't stick the landing. Stick to ECM work, 9S, you ain't a battle-model.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

when it comes to flying, 9S just can't hack it

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

chiasaur11 posted:

They have a cheaper method. It's the vending machines.

It's just some people have to try and show off.

That's exactly what he said. You put in a vendoing machine code like 2B and pay 70 cents, and it dispenses a can of android.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I'm surprised 2B didn't get a bunch of different bodies to use throughout this adventure. You'd think being an android would mean you could just be downloaded into any type of robot available. We barely see any of the operators, it'd be neat to have one of them be curt and surly all the time as they're smashing metals into scrap.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
All the different android bodies are built to a given task, I think. 2B doesn't have the drivers to use a different chassis.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode LXII: Knack



So this is happening now. The wreckage of the Boku-Shi and all the machine lifeforms in the immediate area have merged into some manner of chaotic swarming ball of anger. This mini-boss doesn’t have a title card or even an Intel entry. So we’ll just call it the Trash Legion for lack of a better term. Or Knack. It kind of looks like a big pile of barely comprehensible poo poo like game of the generation Knack's titular character...


New Music: Dependent Weakling (Instrumental)




I’m fine... Let’s take this bastard down.
Right!





So I’d call this an outright bad boss fight. The Trash Legion just kind of flitters about the area in an angry ball of impotent rage. Despite being a churning mass of metal, it doesn’t actually do any damage unless it’s specifically stopped in place and begun swirling in a tornado-like fashion.







Our goal is to strip away all of the machine lifeform corpse wreckage in order to access the creamy chocolate center glowing yellow weak point machine core holding the mass together. Anything works in stripping away the dead machines. Concentrated Pod fire can do most of the heavy lifting while 2B and 9S chase it around the area to get some swipes in.



When its core is exposed, the trash pile will resort to the old stand-bye of raining orbs about the area in an attempt to ward off the attacking androids.





The garbage whirlwind can also float around the area sparking a laser light show of energy beams in all directions. This is rather hard to avoid since there’s nothing resembling a pattern to the lasers and Trash Legion can still move about rapidly while firing its beams.





Once its HP is depleted, the Trash Legion unceremonious explodes which immediately ends the gravity well of debris. Eve is nowhere to be found following this battle. Turns out he just scampered out the back and ran off while the androids were distracted with the machine lifeforms crawling all over the place and making a big scene earlier.



However, our victory is short lived. After a few moments pass following Trash Legion’s defeat, we’re greeted with another earthquake and a rumbling in the distance.

Music: ENDS



Turns out the angry ball of dead machines was just a prelude to the main event: A big ol’ angry snake of dead machine parts. If you’re curious about all the sudden weird gravity poo poo going on thanks to Eve’s hissy fit, here’s a little background detail the YoRHa Stage Play mentions that the game proper neglects to follow-up on.



The machines’ Logic Virus has been mentioned several times already but very few details have been given beyond that one YoRHa deserter that got it, went completely mad and died within minutes. It’ll become relevant later in the game and explained in further detail. But one thing that is only directly stated in Stage Play is that the Logic Virus grants anyone infected with it crazy rear end anti-gravity powers. There’s no reason stated WHY it does that other than well... having someone go berserk and also becoming Magneto is probably a bad scene for everyone involved. So there’s that. Just keep that in mind during upcoming events.




Music: The Sound of the End




What do we do? There’s too many!

Before 2B can answer the somewhat panicking 9S, we receive a radio communication from Pascal. My dude, it’s not the best time. We don’t need any tips on weird machine lifeform patches. We’re KINDA lousy with ‘em at the moment...



2B, can you hear me? Our village is under—Aaaaaaaah!
<transmission ends>
Pascal! Come in, Pascal!
poo poo...





Alright, we don’t have time to be loving about with these trash mobs of berserker trashcans. Machines are trying to cause a ruckus over at our boy Pascal’s village and we’re not having that on our watch. Also, attempting to abandon our duties at any point from here until the ending will result in Ending L triggering again and 2B retiring to a life of fishing. So let’s just stick to the task at hand.





It seems the shortcut back to Pascal’s Village has been sealed and the machines are too dumb to climb over the gate or just ask to be dropped off on the other side of it. Pascal contacts 2B again as she and 9S get to work trashing these machines.



It seems the machines on the network have gone berserk. We’ve sealed off the entrance to the village and are trying to hold them off, but... With these weapons, there’s only so much we can do...
Let’s take these guys out first.





That won’t be a problem. Nobody is messing with that cute dingus machine filled village. We’ve still got like over half the game’s runtime to go for something terrible to happen to it. Please don’t jump the gun.





As soon as all of the marked machines attacking the gate are retired, the Trash Snake erupts from the ground to innate another pretty rotten battle. Same deal as the first time here. We’ve got to strip away enough junked machine corpses to expose the glowing weak point core. Pod fire and the occasional Pod Program will be doing most of the damage for this fight since the Trash Snake flies around mostly out of our reach.





The only real attack this enemy possesses is firing lasers in all directions as it erratically darts around the area. This is INCREDIBLY hard to avoid if this boss decides to be a real fucker and suddenly zoom into 2B’s general vicinity without warning. Perfect Evade is extremely fickle when it comes to concentrated laser beams.





Once the wiggly tube of garbage takes enough damage, the central orb will fall to the ground giving our YoRHa units time to wail on it to death. It’s totally possible to take this thing out in a single fierce barrage of attacking when it falls. It seems to have less overall HP than the earlier Trash Legion. Which is good, cuz this thing sucks.



In a related note, given this enemy flies all over the skies of this area all willy-nilly, it’s entirely possible to have the core fall in an awkward spot where 2B will barely be able to deal any damage beyond plinking from afar with Pod fire. On top of Pascal’s gate, for instance. Or floating over the nearby cliff. Or once I had it just get stuck on top of one of the trees in the area. This just could have used a WEE bit more Q&A testing.



It, like the first machine corpse tornado, unceremoniously explodes (both leaving behind a valuable Machine Core drop at least, assuming that doesn’t roll off a cliff or fall somewhere inaccessible) with still no Eve present after its destruction. Where is that dickless dick?

Pascal radios shortly after we destroy the second mini-boss. He’ll actually show-up in person by the gate rarely (as he does in the Highlight Reel video.) I have no idea what triggers him to do so. It doesn’t change any of his dialogue other than adding the radio filter.



What happened here?
The machines on the network all went berserk at the same moment. I think the unit presiding over them may have gone mad.
It’s Eve. It’s got to be.
If we destroy this presiding unit, will it stop the rest?
Most likely, yes...
Pod, I need you to locate Eve’s current position.
Location has been detected and placed on map.
We’ll take care of Eve.
You just worry about keeping the village safe, okay?
Do be careful!



Our new destination is in the central crater of the City Ruins. As soon as we embark on our journey to the final battle, we get another radio transmission...


New Music: The Sound of the End (Quiet)




BROTHER... brother...
What is this?
Looks like he’s bombarding the area with forced connections... I think all these transmissions are making the machines go haywire. We have to find Eve and destroy him!
On it.





As we approach the crater, any machine lifeform within view detonates and the air is filled with a din of machine lifeform screams. It’s a touch ominous...





Waiting for us in the center of the crater on a destroyed building’s facade we find Eve hanging out. Maybe he’s finally calmed down and we can discuss this civilly. Perhaps if we just calmly explain that Adam went into a deep hole about human blood-sports and it was a consensual death match, he’ll listen to reason and stop the machine onslaught.





...Then again, maybe not.



I know you two feel the same.



That this world... is utterly meaningless.



Another trash cyclone begins. This time conveniently surrounding the area in an impenetrable whirlwind of debris, locking the androids in with an increasingly irritable Eve.



As far as I’m concerned, my brother... was everything...





Tune in next time for the final battle of NieR: Automata Route A. 2B and 9S vs. Eve the Machineman and his noodlely dumpster arms. Final boss kids these days... makes you long for the quiet dignity of the Shadowlord and his ethereal neon pants.






Video: Episode 62 Highlight Reel






Corrupted Eve Concept Art – Eve... did your brother ever tell you that blackface wasn’t cool...? He probably should have told you about that. The humans on the moon are gonna be pissed. I’m assuming they have at least one token black guy on the moon...

vdate
Oct 25, 2010

McDragon posted:

when it comes to flying, 9S just can't hack it

:perfect:

Oh yeah, there was an update too! Something about Eve with his crazy-virus tattoo job here (especially in the earlier stages) gives me serious SMT vibes. Maybe it's that Eve looks a bit like Akihiko doing his best Demi-Fiend impression.

Epicmissingno
Jul 1, 2017

Thank gooness we all get along so well!
I like the rating on Eve's concept art. "Well, Eve is an A-level machine. What happens when he powers up? He's A+! If he powers up more than that? A++! Now have him do that two more times."

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
So, I found this pretty cool piece of official Drakengard/NieR art.

Beefstew
Oct 30, 2010

I told you that story so I could tell you this one...

Junpei posted:

So, I found this pretty cool piece of official Drakengard/NieR art.



Nowe/Drakengard 2 isn't canon. Nice try.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

Beefstew posted:

Nowe/Drakengard 2 isn't canon. Nice try.

And BroNier? Gross

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

And BroNier? Gross

I bet he doesn't even own a jockstrap, let alone one for his face.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Epicmissingno posted:

I like the rating on Eve's concept art. "Well, Eve is an A-level machine. What happens when he powers up? He's A+! If he powers up more than that? A++! Now have him do that two more times."

And then S and S+, naturally.

Full blackface Eve reminds me of the Senator's nano-carapace in MGR: Revengeance, though it doesn't seem to be quite as protective this time around.

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth
God, it's such a stock jrpg villain speech.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
Yeah there's no way Zero and Caim would exist in the same tri-state area as nowe without murdering the poo poo out of him.

Not canon AF.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Forgall posted:

God, it's such a stock jrpg villain speech.

The VA is really selling it, though.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

vdate posted:

:perfect:

Oh yeah, there was an update too! Something about Eve with his crazy-virus tattoo job here (especially in the earlier stages) gives me serious SMT vibes. Maybe it's that Eve looks a bit like Akihiko doing his best Demi-Fiend impression.

I was thinking more along the lines of Digital Devil Saga, the SMT spin-off about virtual super soldiers that get turned into demons that have to eat each other or go insane.

SMT gets a bit weird sometimes.

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Zomborgon posted:

And then S and S+, naturally.

Full blackface Eve reminds me of the Senator's nano-carapace in MGR: Revengeance, though it doesn't seem to be quite as protective this time around.
NanoMachines, son!

Forgall posted:

God, it's such a stock jrpg villain speech.
Omnicidal rage inspired by borderline incestuous feelings of brotherly love is stock to you? What JRPGs have you been playing?

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Omnicidal rage inspired by borderline incestuous feelings of brotherly love is stock to you? What JRPGs have you been playing?

That... could honestly describe a few Final Fantasy villains.

KamikazePotato
Jun 28, 2010
Doesnt really fit.

FF1 - Ancient evil
FF2 - Evil emperor
FF3 - Ancient Evil
FF4 - Ancient Evil
FF5 - Ancient Evil
FF6 - Omnicidal crazy clown
FF7 - Arrogant wacko swordsman...and an ancient evil
FF8 - I don't even know
FF9 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then an ancient evil
FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then a fish
FF13 - Some weird god things?
FF15 - dunno

I can't really think of another RPG villain with the exact motivation that Eve has. With that said, his design makes him seem more generic than he is.

Good Dumplings
Mar 30, 2011

Excuse my worthless shitposting because all I can ever hope to accomplish in life is to rot away the braincells of strangers on the internet with my irredeemable brainworms.

KamikazePotato posted:

Doesnt really fit.

FF1 - Ancient evil
FF2 - Evil emperor
FF3 - Ancient Evil
FF4 - Ancient Evil
FF5 - Ancient Evil
FF6 - Omnicidal crazy clown
FF7 - Arrogant wacko swordsman...and an ancient evil
FF8 - I don't even know
FF9 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then an ancient evil
FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then a fish
FF13 - Some weird god things?
FF15 - dunno

I can't really think of another RPG villain with the exact motivation that Eve has. With that said, his design makes him seem more generic than he is.

maybe ff10? Seymour's sorta like this except it's because his mom turned into an Iron Maiden album cover

Jetrauben
Sep 7, 2011
angered the evil eye lately

Forgall posted:

God, it's such a stock jrpg villain speech.

Taro has always excelled in passion and sincerity more than merely originality.

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Good Dumplings posted:

maybe ff10? Seymour's sorta like this except it's because his mom turned into an Iron Maiden album cover

I suppose FF7 does kind of fit, except it was Sephiroth's obsessive love for his mother, rather than his brother.

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!
It's worth keeping in mind here that Eve is a machine created to wipe out Humanity/Androids so his generic alien masters can take over. Said alien masters were wiped out centuries before Eve was even born (or whatever you call ripping your way out of your brother's stomach.) When he says this world is meaningless, he's not exactly wrong.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

KamikazePotato posted:

Doesnt really fit.

FF1 - Ancient evil
FF2 - Evil emperor
FF3 - Ancient Evil
FF4 - Ancient Evil
FF5 - Ancient Evil
FF6 - Omnicidal crazy clown
FF7 - Arrogant wacko swordsman...and an ancient evil
FF8 - I don't even know
FF9 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then an ancient evil
FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then a fish
FF13 - Some weird god things?
FF15 - dunno

I can't really think of another RPG villain with the exact motivation that Eve has. With that said, his design makes him seem more generic than he is.

FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage... and then a fish... and then a floating tick.

Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
FF8 would technically be "Arrogant wacko mage" with possibly future evil, since said wacko lady is puppet-master body/time hopping her way further and further into the past.

FF15 - Arrogant wacko ancient evil prince (dude got corrupted by demons and was cursed with immortality)

My X has died, therefore the world deserves death is more of an anime villain's motivation than any game I can think of. Maybe Dark Cloud 2 is similar enough?


The Dark Id posted:

the Trash Legion unceremonious explodes

the Trash Snake erupts from the ground to innate another pretty rotten battle

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

KamikazePotato posted:

I can't really think of another RPG villain with the exact motivation that Eve has. With that said, his design makes him seem more generic than he is.

Wasn't that basically what the plot of Dirge of Cerberus boiled down to? I don't really remember much about that game other than the Gackt cameo at the end and the fact that it sucked.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

KamikazePotato posted:

Doesnt really fit.

FF1 - Ancient evil
FF2 - Evil emperor
FF3 - Ancient Evil
FF4 - Ancient Evil
FF5 - Ancient Evil
FF6 - Omnicidal crazy clown
FF7 - Arrogant wacko swordsman...and an ancient evil
FF8 - I don't even know
FF9 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then an ancient evil
FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then a fish
FF13 - Some weird god things?
FF15 - dunno

I can't really think of another RPG villain with the exact motivation that Eve has. With that said, his design makes him seem more generic than he is.

FF14 - All of the above, except maybe the omnicidal crazy clown

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
at least this trashlegion is foreshadowing a nice music theme

Supremezero posted:

FF1 - Ancient evil
FF2 - Evil emperor
FF3 - Ancient Evil
FF4 - Ancient Evil
FF5 - Ancient Evil
FF6 - Omnicidal crazy clown
FF7 - Arrogant wacko swordsman...and an ancient evil
FF8 - I don't even know
FF9 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then an ancient evil
FF10 - Arrogant wacko mage...and then a fish
FF13 - Some weird god things?
FF15 - dunno

dont forget that FF4 and FF5 had arrogant mages for the most part too before they Zeromus'd and Voided it up
and Kefka was definitely 'wacko'

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

FF12's main antagonist was my own inability to stay awake, so that doesn't fit at all.

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Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Zagglezig posted:

My X has died, therefore the world deserves death is more of an anime villain's motivation than any game I can think of. Maybe Dark Cloud 2 is similar enough?

That was a thing at the very end of Skies of Arcadia.

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