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corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

floppyspud posted:

I mean either way you'll get blobbed, thats just the way it is, no point complaining about that.

We brought ships out there intending to die, and yet we survived.

If they had doomsdayed our team of 8 t1 cruisers and assfrigs it would have at least been fast, stupid, and funny.

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40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

1000 aligned structures in system with which to undock nothing

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

PhilippAchtel posted:

"The grandfather was born in a tent. He remembers living in a tent. He will lead the people well.

The father was born in a tent. He remembers both living in a tent, and living in a palace. He will lead the people well.

The son was born in a palace. He has never lived in a tent. He will not lead the people at all."


Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

do not play eve online

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

i formed up on this roam thinking wed get blasted 2 jumps in but instead we just went system to system watching dracarys and karmafleet ishtars scatter like roaches. sad poo poo man honestly no fun empire pubbie brain has just infested everyone i guess. i hope all the waffe people are somewhere and actually taking fights cause thinking that old school bee mentality is just gone bums me out

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

floppyspud posted:

the best we can hope for is that with the ratting changes alliance income will increase.

i think everyone wants war, especially with the HAC balances.

No deployment till at least next year apparently

gently caress me


Solus posted:




drat they made Dawn "I doxx women" Rhea a director.

Great org!!!!

if one could go blind from rolling their eyes into the back of their skull I would

Dalael posted:

What's the story with Dawn? Who did she doxx and/or when? I dont think i ever read about that

When the delta calamity happened, a bunch of uninvolved pubbies who fester on suffering and self importance started doxxing a lot of people apparently on a server called the Cesspool, ran by a pubbie named Redline

dawn "dia"rhea posted a picture of the woman who originally had been harassed (and also called a wounded bird amber heard bitch by the mittani) to this known doxxing discord at the height of the incident; putting her at much increased risk of harassment and violence by the nutjobs and incels from the imperium and elsewhere that were flipping their poo poo over mittani being removed - especially given that a certain hellsite that will be named was also looking at everything and doxxing people

She's a arrogant, self centred, unempathetic, pickme, dipshit of the highest caliber

whether it was posted because she was too stupid to realize the risk, or recognized it and did it anyway, is irrelevant to me personally - she posted a photo of a harassed woman to a doxxing discord during a doxxing spree where thousands of pubbies who wished the woman ill were located

(this sentence is speculation from other people): additional irony is apparently she has specifically avoided having photos of herself get onto the internet? can't have herself online but more than happy to post a harassment survivor to a known doxxing discord lol, lmao


gently caress dawn

e: if her 'throbbing cocks' asher x (i can't remember the other person, maybe it was pitts?) fanfic with posted today she'd probably be airlocked for sexual harassment

psilocybin laden fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 7, 2022

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

40 lbs to freedom posted:

i formed up on this roam thinking wed get blasted 2 jumps in but instead we just went system to system watching dracarys and karmafleet ishtars scatter like roaches. sad poo poo man honestly no fun empire pubbie brain has just infested everyone i guess. i hope all the waffe people are somewhere and actually taking fights cause thinking that old school bee mentality is just gone bums me out


like in the movie ratatouille where the humans come in the kitchen and all the mice have to scatter in different directions

i completely agree with you and I wish more people would take fights, but I think part of the problem is

1. the removal of income streams, so people are so risk averse and scared to lose poo poo because it takes forever to replace

if they could replace that ishtar in an hour they'd probably be more down to gently caress? it would'nt fix the problem with every idiot in eve but i think it would alleviate it


2. the removal of cynos, I was never around in a time where cynos could be on every ship cause i joined during the later stages of beitnam but i'm wondering if people are just expecting to get helldunked since there's no chance for gang on gang action due to this change

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

oh hey i'm in these images honking

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


psilocybin laden posted:

like in the movie ratatouille where the humans come in the kitchen and all the mice have to scatter in different directions

i completely agree with you and I wish more people would take fights, but I think part of the problem is

1. the removal of income streams, so people are so risk averse and scared to lose poo poo because it takes forever to replace

if they could replace that ishtar in an hour they'd probably be more down to gently caress? it would'nt fix the problem with every idiot in eve but i think it would alleviate it


2. the removal of cynos, I was never around in a time where cynos could be on every ship cause i joined during the later stages of beitnam but i'm wondering if people are just expecting to get helldunked since there's no chance for gang on gang action due to this change

it's almost like CCP doesn't know what the gently caress. the heyday of supercaps and rorquals were a loving feast for whaler fleets

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

40 lbs to freedom posted:

1000 aligned structures in system with which to undock nothing

A Zen Koan




*ding*

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


🎵 "It's the good advice that you just didn't take" 🎵

psilocybin laden posted:

like in the movie ratatouille where the humans come in the kitchen and all the mice have to scatter in different directions

i completely agree with you and I wish more people would take fights, but I think part of the problem is

1. the removal of income streams, so people are so risk averse and scared to lose poo poo because it takes forever to replace

if they could replace that ishtar in an hour they'd probably be more down to gently caress? it would'nt fix the problem with every idiot in eve but i think it would alleviate it


2. the removal of cynos, I was never around in a time where cynos could be on every ship cause i joined during the later stages of beitnam but i'm wondering if people are just expecting to get helldunked since there's no chance for gang on gang action due to this change

Sad stuff. The words of Jack Elliot:

PhilippAchtel fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Nov 7, 2022

GSV Fuck Your God
Aug 27, 2003

small-l liberalism
why would you engage 8 stabbers in your ishtar? The sensible thing when a neut arrives in local is to go on tether. Why didn't a gang go get you? Who knows. Probably they weren't interested to expend the effort on you. If you just want a guaranteed response, do what everyone else does and try to camp the T5ZI gate in 1DQ or similar.

GSV Fuck Your God
Aug 27, 2003

small-l liberalism
Had a fun fight Saturday. Horde brought like 100 stabbers with ospreys as logi with another 20 light stuff to pick off stragglers joining. We undocked about 160 munnins+scims plus like 50? caps+supers and then more crap piled on. The overall outcome wasn’t really in question, what was in question is how much we lose beating them. They primaried one of our scims but they failed to actually pop him and it was a real struggle to keep him alive. He was down to 1/4 hull at one one point but then they started to lose dps. He lived and we ended up losing only dictors/tackle.

I love flying logi.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

40 lbs to freedom posted:

i formed up on this roam thinking wed get blasted 2 jumps in but instead we just went system to system watching dracarys and karmafleet ishtars scatter like roaches. sad poo poo man honestly no fun empire pubbie brain has just infested everyone i guess. i hope all the waffe people are somewhere and actually taking fights cause thinking that old school bee mentality is just gone bums me out

Hey! Don't shittalk DC and karmafleet! We love them, even if they are like mosquitoes in more ways than one.

Also of course you didn't get killed, as long as you aren't hurting the krabs nobody will really care, you gotta go for ess! 1dq or any of those systems I mentioned before will probably give you a response as long as there's like, 70+Mil in them. Also try scanning down and warping to krab caps and supercaps.

GSV Fuck Your God
Aug 27, 2003

small-l liberalism
I wasn't playing before the cyno changes but in addition to what's been mentioned one of the other effects I have heard discussed was that when you see a Falcon or Pilgrim, you know exactly why it's there. Removing the ambiguity of "which ship is going to drop supers on us" seems to be another disappointing result from that change.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

floppyspud posted:

Hey! Don't shittalk DC and karmafleet! We love them, even if they are like mosquitoes in more ways than one.

Also of course you didn't get killed, as long as you aren't hurting the krabs nobody will really care, you gotta go for ess! 1dq or any of those systems I mentioned before will probably give you a response as long as there's like, 70+Mil in them. Also try scanning down and warping to krab caps and supercaps.

We tried. People were just hanging out on structures. The largest ESS value I saw was 5M isk.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

PhilippAchtel posted:

We tried. People were just hanging out on structures. The largest ESS value I saw was 5M isk.

Bring a fleet of battle ishtars and go ratting all in one anom, preferably in 1dq.

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
Karmafleet.....sucks rear end

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


GSV gently caress Your God posted:

why would you engage 8 stabbers in your ishtar? The sensible thing when a neut arrives in local is to go on tether. Why didn't a gang go get you? Who knows. Probably they weren't interested to expend the effort on you. If you just want a guaranteed response, do what everyone else does and try to camp the T5ZI gate in 1DQ or similar.

The point being made is that there wasn't a response other than the Ishtars docking up.

The expectation was that someone would bring a fleet to go and kill the roamers.

salartarium
Sep 7, 2021
They should finally add in FOBs/Small Citadel or the Capsuleer Outpost from Echoes. Or add POS guns to structures that you can destroy without timers. Having smaller scale stuff to fight over would give a reason to raid and give smaller groups the ability to fight each other for space.

POCO meta close to that kind of warfare right now, but Low-sec is dominated by a few groups with shell corps.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Dalmuti posted:

Karmafleet.....sucks rear end

Yeah, there are so many good, small membercorps with an actual community, no idea why you would join, let alone stay in that soulless newbee vacuum.

There are also some small membercorps with racist, homophobic, and pretty sexist weirdos in them, I guess that's the point of karmafleet, it's the closest a pubbie can get to goonwaffe, with very little requirements to stay in corp, very little drama, and basically no social interaction required.

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

GSV gently caress Your God posted:

I wasn't playing before the cyno changes but in addition to what's been mentioned one of the other effects I have heard discussed was that when you see a Falcon or Pilgrim, you know exactly why it's there. Removing the ambiguity of "which ship is going to drop supers on us" seems to be another disappointing result from that change.

"is that a force recon? primary the poo poo out of that thanks"


Dalmuti posted:

Karmafleet.....sucks rear end



some karmafleet pubbie did a transphobia on the service I run so I threw them out the airlock, they're now blacklisted from Brave and ASCEE and the beekeepers are looking into it - I don't know what I want them to do the shitbird but whatever happens I hope it isn't pleasant

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
Wow why did delta sqad do that?

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


probably make them a director and let them into waffe

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

GSV gently caress Your God posted:

why would you engage 8 stabbers in your ishtar? The sensible thing when a neut arrives in local is to go on tether. Why didn't a gang go get you? Who knows. Probably they weren't interested to expend the effort on you. If you just want a guaranteed response, do what everyone else does and try to camp the T5ZI gate in 1DQ or similar.

lol 8 stabbers. It was a bellicose, two caracals, two jaguars, a wolf, a sabre, and an ishkur. A couple HACs could've sent us packing without breaking a sweat. Especially since we were suicide fit, as one would expect with a kitchen sink like that.

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO
I honestly thought bubbling jump bridges would generate a jabber ping. This will be rectified next time and more jump bridges will get bigger bubbles.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Rudeboy Detective posted:

probably make them a director and let them into waffe

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022


Wow, called a pubbie by someone in snooo... I don't think any karmafleet members can call anyone a pubbie, let alone a goonwaffe member.

The day I get called a pubbie by someone in karmafleet is the day I jump off the harbour bridge.

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
Maybe micromanager. Maybe

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


salartarium posted:

They should finally add in FOBs/Small Citadel or the Capsuleer Outpost from Echoes. Or add POS guns to structures that you can destroy without timers. Having smaller scale stuff to fight over would give a reason to raid and give smaller groups the ability to fight each other for space.

POCO meta close to that kind of warfare right now, but Low-sec is dominated by a few groups with shell corps.

I vaguely remember CCP promising to add structures that were between Citadels and Mobile Depots.

I'm still waiting for those and my goddamned Angel Cartel carrier.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

dragonshardz posted:

I vaguely remember CCP promising to add structures that were between Citadels and Mobile Depots.

I'm still waiting for those and my goddamned Angel Cartel carrier.

They made great structures between citadels and mobile depots, then removed them. IMO they should've balanced POS' to be not as good as a specialised citadel but still fully capable of manufacturing, research and reactions (but not moon lasering or capital manufacturing, keep that stuff to citadels.)

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
I still think they should make it so you can *leave* C1-3 wormholes in capital ships but can't take them back in so we can deathroam in caps

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

psilocybin laden posted:

"is that a force recon? primary the poo poo out of that thanks"



some karmafleet pubbie did a transphobia on the service I run so I threw them out the airlock, they're now blacklisted from Brave and ASCEE and the beekeepers are looking into it - I don't know what I want them to do the shitbird but whatever happens I hope it isn't pleasant

Not to worry friend. He said sorry to his CEO. He grew up in the 80s you see, and he was drunk.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Daytrip Dreadnought

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Kazinsal posted:

I still think they should make it so you can *leave* C1-3 wormholes in capital ships but can't take them back in so we can deathroam in caps

I gotta be honest I... don't think that's a very good idea. I think being able to stage capitals out of low class connections would be slightly broken, largely because you will never be able to stop capitals from going back to their home, they will just roll and scan until they get back, which will be worth it because caps are awesome.

A one way road is only a one way road when there aren't several hundred other one way roads leading back and forth.

Also this is assuming that this is for all connections, if it was just for low/null it would be good yes, which is probably what you wanted anyways but i love going on rants.

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.
my only memory of dawn rhea was reporting her for slurs but it was in theta comms so the mumble cops could only give a sigh

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022
Update: They've been booted from the Imperium

Delta Sqad wins again





floppyspud posted:

Wow, called a pubbie by someone in snooo... I don't think any karmafleet members can call anyone a pubbie, let alone a goonwaffe member.

The day I get called a pubbie by someone in karmafleet is the day I jump off the harbour bridge.

I was almost madder at that

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


floppyspud posted:

They made great structures between citadels and mobile depots, then removed them. IMO they should've balanced POS' to be not as good as a specialised citadel but still fully capable of manufacturing, research and reactions (but not moon lasering or capital manufacturing, keep that stuff to citadels.)

Modern structures that aren't piss from a lovely dick to set up and use, friend.

floppyspud posted:

I gotta be honest I... don't think that's a very good idea. I think being able to stage capitals out of low class connections would be slightly broken, largely because you will never be able to stop capitals from going back to their home, they will just roll and scan until they get back, which will be worth it because caps are awesome.

A one way road is only a one way road when there aren't several hundred other one way roads leading back and forth.

Also this is assuming that this is for all connections, if it was just for low/null it would be good yes, which is probably what you wanted anyways but i love going on rants.

One-way would be "can only ever exit". You can't bring a cap in from C5 space to low-class w-space as is anyway. Being able to shove a carrier out into nullsec (collapsing the hole behind) for a death roam would be insanely cool.

dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Nov 8, 2022

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

dragonshardz posted:

Modern structures that aren't piss from a lovely dick to set up and use, friend.

One-way would be "can only ever exit". You can't bring a cap in from C5 space to low-class w-space as is anyway. Being able to shove a carrier out into nullsec (collapsing the hole behind) for a death roam would be insanely cool.

Tbh if you want something that you can just put down without the pos hassle it already exists. they're called M structures, they can do a lot of things and are pretty cheap relative to bigger things like forts, I doubt you will get anything better than they are.

As for capital holes wouldn't you always be able to roll them back in by scanning? Sure it would be a pain, but I'm struggling to understand how you will make it truly one way.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Also if you're talking about jspace>kspace only then ignore what I say.

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
Yeah, I'm thinking J-space to K-space only so you can go "aw hell yeah fountain static time for a capital deathroam" and shart out a couple dreads and some support ships from a C2 and see if you can end up ISK positive before scanning down a way for your pods to get home.

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