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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Covok posted:

That's not Iron Man, that's Norman Osborn as the "Iron Patriot." See, Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin, was president, Iron Man was a criminal and Captain America was dead because of Civil War. So, Norman stole Iron Man's suit and merged it with Captain America's persona so he can claim to be the "Iron Patriot," the new leader of the Avengers.

I hate comics

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Plutonis posted:

Superhero comics suck rear end!!!

I will say that electing Donald Trump retroactively vindicated Lex Luthor and Norman Osborn winning the Presidency in their respective universes. If we can elect a Supervillian in real life who is currently slashing all health care benefits for everyone who isn't age 30-45 white male, why can't fictional worlds also elect Supervillians?

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Serf posted:

i'm glad i was too poor to read comics during this arc

In retrospect it seems quaint next to the current Marvel storyline about Heroic Nazi Captain America.

Serf
May 5, 2011


mango sentinel posted:

In retrospect it seems quaint next to the current Marvel storyline about Heroic Nazi Captain America.

it is a bad garbage storyline but you can't deny that "nazis actually won world war 2 all along" is a pretty good summation of our situation right now

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Ahhhhhh!!!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Covok posted:

That's not Iron Man, that's Norman Osborn as the "Iron Patriot." See, Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin, was president, Iron Man was a criminal and Captain America was dead because of Civil War. So, Norman stole Iron Man's suit and merged it with Captain America's persona so he can claim to be the "Iron Patriot," the new leader of the Avengers.

The Aristocrats Avengers!

slap me and kiss me
Apr 1, 2008

You best protect ya neck
A strong argument for winding down properties after a predetermined time rather than running them into the ground for all of eternity.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Fuego Fish posted:



It came from DeviantArt so it must be garbage am I right??? :jerkbag:

Nebezial is good arts, and Death Vigil was a great World of Darkness game that was never actually a World of Darkness game, but was a comic instead for some reason.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

starkebn posted:

Was Cyberpunk poser art or actual photos of figurines?
Third edition was photos of action figures.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Evil Mastermind posted:

Third edition was photos of action figures.



that's the good stuff right there

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

Norman Osborn as Iron Patriot and the Dark Reign era was good, actually.

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Evil Mastermind posted:

Third edition was photos of action figures.



Even in Designers and Dragons, Shannon Appelcline calls out and rags on the terrible art for third edition.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Evil Mastermind posted:

Third edition was photos of action figures.



This is hilarious, but... I'm guessing not actually an intentional joke? Oof.

Poser art is awful, but for sheer ubiquity, I think I have to go with manipulated amateur photos (of game designers/their friends in costume, or action figures, or whatever) as the worst trend in bad game art. Even manipulated stock photos are better if the stock photos are half-competent. I know it's really tempting if you've got a lost of costumes and little talent or budget for other art, but stop doing this

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Antivehicular posted:

Poser art is awful, but for sheer ubiquity, I think I have to go with manipulated amateur photos (of game designers/their friends in costume, or action figures, or whatever) as the worst trend in bad game art.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
He looks exactly like the kind of person you'd expect to be making VtM 5e.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Yawgmoth posted:

He looks exactly like the kind of person you'd expect to be making VtM 5e.

A homeless wizard?

edit: And yeah those 'doll' punk photos in Cyberpunk were deadly serious when the book came out. They thought it would be the next big thing in RPG art.

slap me and kiss me
Apr 1, 2008

You best protect ya neck

Kwyndig posted:

A homeless wizard?

edit: And yeah those 'doll' punk photos in Cyberpunk were deadly serious when the book came out. They thought it would be the next big thing in RPG art.

Somewhere far away, an ancient knight buried deep, deep underground whispers "you have chosen ... poorly."

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Scyther posted:

Norman Osborn as Iron Patriot and the Dark Reign era was good, actually.

how quickly that all got reverted was a big wakeup call to my naive brain that none of the super mega events comics told me to keep up on actually matter and it'd all drift back to the status quo sooner or later

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Scyther posted:

Norman Osborn as Iron Patriot and the Dark Reign era was good, actually.

I shall take your word for that, Scyther.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Brother Entropy posted:

how quickly that all got reverted was a big wakeup call to my naive brain that none of the super mega events comics told me to keep up on actually matter and it'd all drift back to the status quo sooner or later

That's why I only read Squirrel Girl since it isn't connected to the big events at all.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
There is, uh, a whole lot to unpack with Cyberpunk V3. At times I think I can tell what Pondsmith was trying to do, but I'm just not sure. Has anybody here actually played the drat thing?

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Kwyndig posted:

That's why I only read Squirrel Girl since it isn't connected to the big events at all.

give it a couple of years

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Brother Entropy posted:

how quickly that all got reverted was a big wakeup call to my naive brain that none of the super mega events comics told me to keep up on actually matter and it'd all drift back to the status quo sooner or later
Comics continuity is like a Stretch Armstrong doll - you can twist it, stretch it, tie it in knots, distort it, and it will always revert to its original shape.

Spider-Man will always go back to being Peter Parker in a red-and-blue costume, the job of Batman will always end up back with Bruce Wayne, Superman will eventually return to being Clark Kent with superpowers and a red/yellow/blue costume, etc etc

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Halloween Jack posted:

There is, uh, a whole lot to unpack with Cyberpunk V3. At times I think I can tell what Pondsmith was trying to do, but I'm just not sure. Has anybody here actually played the drat thing?

I've never even actually finished reading the thing, V3 is just not my thing.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

FMguru posted:

Comics continuity is like a Stretch Armstrong doll - you can twist it, stretch it, tie it in knots, distort it, and it will always revert to its original shape.

Spider-Man will always go back to being Peter Parker in a red-and-blue costume, the job of Batman will always end up back with Bruce Wayne, Superman will eventually return to being Clark Kent with superpowers and a red/yellow/blue costume, etc etc

To be fair, sometimes things do change. Wolverine was original a supervillian, Deadpool was originally a supervillian, Miles Morales is still Spiderman, and the Inhumans are slowly replacing Mutants (kicking and screaming as far as fans are concerned).*

*Basically, marvel doesn't have movie rights to mutants, Sony does, so they're downplaying mutants in the comic and giving a lot of spotlight to an often forgotten subgroup of humans that are basically mutants (genetically engineered by aliens).

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


It's not Sony it's Fox that holds the mutant rights and refuse to let the licenses go.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Kwyndig posted:

It's not Sony it's Fox that holds the mutant rights and refuse to let the licenses go.

Oh, you're right.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Fuego Fish posted:



It came from DeviantArt so it must be garbage am I right??? :jerkbag:

It's got some anatomical issues (pretty shrink-wrapped skull, unlikely tooth mounting, impossible arm jointing...) but the artist doesn't appear to specialize in paleoart. A number of highly-regarded paleoartists (such as Emily Willoughby) do have DeviantArt pages, however. Incidentally, here's a great blog post by paleontologist Mark Witton on tyrannosaurid integument.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

paradoxGentleman posted:

I'm sorry if I was flippant and got too defensive. I'm just very much in favor of happy, bright fantasy. We need more of it, and I say this as someone who looks at Mortasheen and loves every second of it.

Same, also really wish the people making it would hurry up with making the Mortasheen RPG already

Scyther posted:

Norman Osborn as Iron Patriot and the Dark Reign era was good, actually.

Agreed for the most part, I still think Punisher becoming a Frankenstein should have been permanent though, regular Frank Castle is a horrible fit for the mainstream Marvel Universe

Kwyndig posted:

That's why I only read Squirrel Girl since it isn't connected to the big events at all.

Shame that the art in her book is garbage though

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

drrockso20 posted:

Shame that the art in her book is garbage though

I will fight you.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

drrockso20 posted:

Shame that the art in her book is garbage though



Art looks fine to me.

Serf
May 5, 2011


yeah the art in squirrel girl owns

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
I would legit watch a Squirrel Girl movie a hundred times, I don't even care what the plot is.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Serf posted:

yeah the art in squirrel girl owns


Serf
May 5, 2011


and

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Serf posted:

yeah the art in squirrel girl owns

:agreed:

I've never understood why people online claim it's bad when it's just different. It's stylized but it's better than seeing the generic, cookie cutter poo poo that's been posted.

EDIT:

It's at least original and not just tracing some porn, a catalog, or someone else's art for their pictures. The fact that Greg Land is still getting work is astounding.

RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jun 23, 2017

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Considering where the plotline goes -- Mole Man falling in love with Squirrel Girl and getting all creepy and obsessed and threatening to destroy the world unless she went on a date with him -- that face is how mine would look when the reality of what I had unleashed sunk in.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

why does iron man's suit have muscles

a lot of old ceremonial armor had muscled sculpted in right? really the question is why doesn't iron man's armor have a huge codpiece? (the answer is the whole thing's already protecting a giant dick)

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Covok posted:



Art looks fine to me.

God everyone looks like they've got fetal alcohol syndrome in that comic

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

SunAndSpring posted:

God everyone looks like they've got fetal alcohol syndrome in that comic

Trust me when I say that the fact they keep a consistent style and it is passable is pretty good for the comic's industry. There is nothing like opening an issue and finding out you got that one artist who just traces porno actors in on the job that issue.

Besides, I like the style.

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