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Pleads posted:Also, corporately controlled sigs suck. Ours makes us include a small headshot. It's the dumbest thing. I manually remove it 50% of the time because I deal with just general population non-client people sometimes and they don't need my ugly mug. Few years ago our company used to include a mugshot in the company directory, but they took it out once they realised it was just used for playing 'corporate hot or not'. Also for those that complain about the stupid legal blocks and long signatures, we have a mandated signature we need to include and it also has to include our upcoming vacation dates, which are manually entered so people forget to take them out. Also its slightly depressing when you look at your own sig and see "Upcoming Vacation: None".
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No Wave posted:No, I believe that - it's the specific word "deferential". It would be like telling a female employee that she needs to be more submissive. Deferential just sounds like language people wouldn't be able to get away with these days. Quick reminder that only three years ago, we had a VP at Pfizer sending out e-mails referring to non-managerial scientists & engineers as larvae.  I'd believe the word 'deferential' was used, no problem.
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Mar 13, 2014 16:19
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docbeard posted:Or even better, "I will stop by to discuss this" without giving any indication of whether it will be in the next five minutes, sometime later today, or ten minutes before the heat death of the universe. From the asker's perspective, it may appear to be inoffensive and meant to cause minimal disruption. To the target, it's insulting to a) make the assumption that it's minimally disruptive question and b) be put into the position of looking/feeling like an idiot for not being able to follow through. Even better is when you respond "I don't know the answer, but I can research it and get back to you later." the response is usually "Nevermind" with a visible air, however slight, of irritation and/or disappointment. Sorry, I'm not your personal loving Wikipedia.
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Mar 13, 2014 16:49
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docbeard posted:Or even better, "I will stop by to discuss this" without giving any indication of whether it will be in the next five minutes, sometime later today, or ten minutes before the heat death of the universe. This has been happening to me a lot, and they ALWAYS come during my lunch hour. Or at 4:58.
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Mar 13, 2014 18:16
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Invite them to lunch or the pub.
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Mar 13, 2014 18:23
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Initio posted:Invite them to lunch or the pub. I like my coworkers, but I don't like them enough to give them any of my time after 5:00 PM.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:57
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Cheesus posted:Both are related to "Just a quick question!" where you're expected to instantly mentally drop whatever you're doing and fully answer to their expectations. This is a big issue in fields like computer programming. In order to program well, you absolutely need to be 100% focused on the task at hand for long periods of time with no distractions. Even something as simple as a 30 second conversation at the wrong time can easily eat up 15 minutes of productivity, which is especially annoying when you're working on a tight deadline and the interruption is something like "Did you hear about that argument Mike and Jason had yesterday?" A big reason why a lot of programmers stay late is the fact that in a lot of office environments, that's the only time when they can really be productive.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:41
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My cousin's company gets around this by using some kind of instant message system. All non-emergency (and almost everything counts as non-emergency) communication should be done though this or email. If the person doesn't respond, they're busy being productive and shouldn't be nagged. I liked it as soon as I heard of it.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:58
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Same with typing. I used to do the transcription work around the office and if I was left reasonably alone I could get it all done and edited in fairly short order. Days where everyone kept harassing me about stupid poo poo were the worst because I would be all day typing. My old normal office hours were 10-6, usually the rest of the office closed up at about 430 or 5. The hour/hour and a half I had by myself I was more productive than the entire rest of the day most days.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:58
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I put my email address in my signature because I read a horror story in this very thread about some poor bastard whose boss printed out all her emails and made the goon reply to them
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Mar 14, 2014 05:34
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For the love of god please put your email in your signatures. Everyday I am forwarded poo poo, told to do the needful (which means follow up), but I can't because Outlook strips addresses out. It makes what should be a pretty simple thing to do into this never-ending game of hot potato where everyone in the office passes me off to everyone else because they don't want to needful. Including the person who sent me the request in the first place. Outlook not being a lovely email client would be solution #1. Solution #2 is putting your email address in your signature. Yeah it's pretty stupid, but it makes someone else's life a lot easier.  The inverse is when someone sends you an all lower case, one-sentence reply asking for your email address. 
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Mar 14, 2014 13:59
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ItalicSquirrels posted:My cousin's company gets around this by using some kind of instant message system. All non-emergency (and almost everything counts as non-emergency) communication should be done though this or email. If the person doesn't respond, they're busy being productive and shouldn't be nagged. I liked it as soon as I heard of it. These are good but one thing that used to annoy me is that people used them weirdly. They'd send one message to get my attention, "Hi peter," and then be typing for ages, maybe get distracted themselves and I'd be waiting for their next message. Just ask what you want to ask in the first message, for God's sake.
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Mar 14, 2014 14:09
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peter banana posted:These are good but one thing that used to annoy me is that people used them weirdly. They'd send one message to get my attention, "Hi peter," and then be typing for ages, maybe get distracted themselves and I'd be waiting for their next message. Just ask what you want to ask in the first message, for God's sake. This is the absolute worst, with people texting into IM clients as a close second. Motherfucker, you're an IT professional, you can spare the milliseconds to hit the y and o in you.
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Mar 14, 2014 14:20
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We hired a little old lady as our confirmation call person because you Americans kept hanging up on the two dudes we had previously who had accents. She types like a teenager in Skype. "ok thx c u" She also doesn't remember to hit the enter key to send her Skype messages. I asked her to close a file so I could update it for her, then 20 minutes later I get: "ok can do. r u done?" No I am not done, you didn't send me that first message it just sat in your text box  On the plus side, her success rate in reaching people is much better. Nobody hangs up on little old ladies reminding them about their 30 minute commitment to earn $75.
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Mar 14, 2014 15:15
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Miss-Bomarc posted:I think the best part of this is the way that people seem honestly, personally offended that they were getting these emails. Does the ilovebees.com website show up oddly for anyone else? I'm using an iphone. Images are chopped up and it looks like two websites are laid on top of each other.
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Mar 14, 2014 15:35
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Hahaha, ilovebees is still around?
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Mar 14, 2014 15:47
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Volmarias posted:This is the absolute worst, with people texting into IM clients as a close second. Motherfucker, you're an IT professional, you can spare the milliseconds to hit the y and o in you. My former boss used to do that in email and it drove me nuts. You're a manager in an international corporation. Act like it. Though to be honest, that was the least of her problems as a manager.
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Mar 14, 2014 22:37
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Volmarias posted:This is the absolute worst, with people texting into IM clients as a close second. Motherfucker, you're an IT professional, you can spare the milliseconds to hit the y and o in you. Or the correct usage between affect/effect. gently caress I HATE THAT poo poo.
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Mar 14, 2014 22:43
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Initio posted:Invite them to lunch or the pub. Yeah, I've got a bit of a commute, they don't get my time after 5 either. I'd be happy to help them around lunch time, since I have a flexible schedule. They just always happen to come by unannounced while I'm away, and then get mad that I wasn't there. I am lucky, in that my supervisor almost always follows up their "where is Max?" with "did you have an appointment?"
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Mar 14, 2014 23:05
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Volmarias posted:This is the absolute worst, with people texting into IM clients as a close second. Motherfucker, you're an IT professional, you can spare the milliseconds to hit the y and o in you. While my old boss wasn't an IT professional, just an engineer, he'd finger type and also end all sentences like this.... with a variable amount of periods and that would be the only punctuation or capitalization he'd ever use. Of course outlook would automatically replace three of them as an ellipsis, so it'd look so odd.
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Mar 14, 2014 23:18
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Speaking of e-mails, I got this gem today. Subject: ORDER#F03923 STATUS UPDATE Body: whenever u got time thx 
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Mar 14, 2014 23:39
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Jyrraeth posted:While my old boss wasn't an IT professional, just an engineer, he'd finger type and also end all sentences like this.... It's like.........do they see that.......in any book or magazine or newpaper......that they've ever read.....like ever......seriously are they trying to sound conversational or something?.......
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Mar 14, 2014 23:44
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On the subject of office instant messaging, WHY did they put in a feature to customize your font like it's AIM? There are several people in my office who have their default font set to 16 point pink and/or purple comic sans and its horrible to look at. And if they send you a message that's more than a line or two long you have to expand your chat window to read it or scroll up and hope they don't keep typing. As for the ellipses abusers, I've noticed it's from people who type as a stream of consciousness and don't think out what they're going to type before they just start spouting it out. The excessive dots are just pauses between thoughts.
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ladyweapon posted:Speaking of e-mails, I got this gem today. I get this poo poo on the regular. It's infuriating. Worse than a scanned form with no text.
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Mar 15, 2014 06:50
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Today I found 9 copies of the final page of a printed email trail left over from a previous meeting. The entire contents of each of these pages: "Please consider the environment before printing this email" in green text. 
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Mar 17, 2014 10:01
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Its my last day on the job - this is weird.
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Mar 17, 2014 15:51
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I had to charge a $900 dinner (with 15 people, so not really that outrageous) to my credit card unexpectedly and they couldn't give me an itemized receipt. Not looking forward to a months long approval process with accounting on this one.
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Some business area owners tried to blackmail me during an security audit today, the exchange went a little like: IT Admin 1: "You can't write an exception on our system! We monitor your web usage, and you spend a lot of time goofing off!" IT Admin 2: "It's not our fault we don't track visitor logs into the remote data center, that's the HR group's job [it is not]" IT Admin 1: "If you report us, we're going to email your manager about your web-usage" IT Admin 1: "Wait, why are you writing this down?" *Note: My company doesn't have a web-usage policy, and all anyone does in audit is gently caress off all day. This probably is also true for your own companies. Renegret posted:Even better if your boss doesn't care if people goof off, as long as the work gets done. 1. That's pretty much it, straight up through the C level person. 2. This is for a nation-wide commercial bank, so I'll let you draw your own conclusions. The outcome of findings like that usually result in a couple of new job openings. Immanentized fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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handbanana125 posted:Some business area owners tried to blackmail me during an security audit today, the exchange went a little like: Even better if your boss doesn't care if people goof off, as long as the work gets done. Not keeping visitor logs to a data center seems like a bigger risk to me anyway, especially if you're hosting customer data...
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Mar 17, 2014 18:55
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Renegret posted:Even better if your boss doesn't care if people goof off, as long as the work gets done. Pretty much once you make it to the point in your career where you are considered a professional it doesn't matter how much internet you look at all day as long as you get your deliverables done. My quality of life shot up a million fold when I hit that mark in my career, and it was great that I could have 4 layers of management sneak up behind me and catch me reading politics blogs almost every time they would speak to me in person but chew out a more junior person for excessive personal usage because he wasn't capable of getting stuff done like I was. If I was that micromanaged that it was brought up as a concern I would just find a new job anyway since that points to management not being a good fit for me. It is a pity that not everyone has that level of professional security.
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Turnquiet posted:Pretty much once you make it to the point in your career where you are considered a professional it doesn't matter how much internet you look at all day as long as you get your deliverables done. My quality of life shot up a million fold when I hit that mark in my career, and it was great that I could have 4 layers of management sneak up behind me and catch me reading politics blogs almost every time they would speak to me in person but chew out a more junior person for excessive personal usage because he wasn't capable of getting stuff done like I was. I'm kind of in the middle. I have two monitors, so I goof off on one monitor and put all my monitoring boards on the other so they're always visible. As long as I have my monitoring boards up and they're empty, management can't really bitch at me because there's just flat out nothing to do. It's nice having reactive responsibilities sometimes. (Then sometimes I cover them up and not realize it because the truth is half the time I don't watch them anyway  )e: In theory I guess I can use the time to study for more certs, but the problem is that to properly study I need to focus and give it 100%, meanwhile posting on SA and reading blogs I can give it 50% and allow myself to be constantly interrupted without any negative effects. I tried to do the whole studying thing and I just couldn't make it work because I had to look away and check something every two minutes.
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A bit like some of you I have the kind of job where in theory I do 7.5 hours a day. In reality, some days I have 4 hours worth of work and other days I have 10. It's in that kind of role where you quickly work out who the good managers are; the good ones will recognise that there are a drat sight more days where I have 10 hours worth of stuff to do than there are days when I have 4, and don't comment when I'm browsing the web or leaving a bit early when one of those days comes around. I don't have much time for the bad ones.
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handbanana125 posted:1. That's pretty much it, straight up through the C level person. I work in a nation-wide (ish, 14 states, coast to coast) bank, but we have an internet policy that prohibits "excessive" internet usage. As I'm still new (and a contract employee), I don't want to probe those boundries quite yet, especially since my direct supervisor has spent the last two meetings going on about excessive internet usage and how it's a one-strike terminable offense if it's egregious. And apparently this includes using personal cell phones at your desk. The language in the policy is also pretty strict about visiting social media and public forums, so no goonery while I'm at work; but apparently USA Today is okay.
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handbanana125 posted:Some business area owners tried to blackmail me during an security audit today, the exchange went a little like: As the person at my company in charge of making sure we pass our SSAE/SOCII audit every year, reading that they're not keeping data visitor center logs just about made my head explode. It's fun because normally I'm IT support with a little bit of sysadmin/documentation/misc IT stuff as needed since we're a small company, and during the month of July when we're preparing for our audit in August, the CEO tells everyone I outrank them and if I need anything at all that anyone is to drop what they're doing and help me.
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One of our conference rooms is under construction. We found out when we showed up with a dozen people and it was closed — no advance "this CR will be closed" emails. Our CR vacancy is already terrible, so there's pretty much no realistic way to find another room on short notice.
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Power has been out at two of our buildings since 10:30 last night. Notification about delaying coming in until 9:00 didn't go out until 8:30. Lol sucks to be those people who have been in since 7.
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YF19pilot posted:The language in the policy is also pretty strict about visiting social media and public forums, so no goonery while I'm at work; but apparently USA Today is okay. Employers have to be reasonable about internet usage. There was a lawsuit where the employee won because the employer didn't say anything to people reading a newspaper/magazine/book, but they terminated someone for reading cnn.com or another news site. Don't go to sites with bad content and you should be OK.
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The general rule of thumb at my office is to not let the boss see anything on your monitor. I accidentally left a restaurants Facebook page open on my monitor and the boss gave the manager a huge dressing down about it. The irony being I was orchestrating something for work, and the first result for the phone number was the Facebook page. I actually kind of hate doing 'personal' things at work. Generally I'll read the news/Facebook on my phone if I'm on hold or waiting for a call to connect, or if I'm waiting for the boss. Other than that I'll book a doctors appointment or something during the day, but when I'm at work I'm there to work.
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Mar 18, 2014 21:41
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apropos of nothing here: gently caress job searching and interviewing. just gently caress it.
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I volunteered to represent our department at a job fair today after a manager called in sick. An animal shelter is less depressing 
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