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Hipster_Doofus posted:Ok I know Lego is overpriced but jfc It's pretty crazy but it's also an enormous set - 4,800 pieces and 43"x26"x17" when built.
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Timby posted:Hornblower came from Nick Meyer (and Roddenberry hated him for it). I thought Roddenberry told Patrick Stewart he was basically playing Hornblower and told him to read the books, which he already had.
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Timby posted:Hornblower came from Nick Meyer (and Roddenberry hated him for it). Whoa, really? What's there to hate about Horatio Hornblower In Space? though honor harrington sucks, fite me
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Memory Alpha says that Roddenberry's original pitch for Star Trek described Captain Robert April as a "space-age Captain Horatio Hornblower".
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Sep 23, 2019 17:07
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Yeah, it’s right there in “Star Trek is...” right before it compares and contrasts April with Drake, Cook, etc. I think it’s fair to say that the comparison with British age of sail adventure stuff was there from the beginning even if Wrath of Khan dialed it up a lot more.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:15
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Snow Cone Capone posted:It's pretty crazy but it's also an enormous set - 4,800 pieces and 43"x26"x17" when built. Huh. I was trying to gauge the size going by the size of the... bumps. (Do those have an official name?) Anyway based on that it doesn't look nearly that big.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Huh. I was trying to gauge the size going by the size of the... bumps. (Do those have an official name?) Anyway based on that it doesn't look nearly that big. Studs 
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Huh. I was trying to gauge the size going by the size of the... bumps. (Do those have an official name?) Anyway based on that it doesn't look nearly that big. Studs I think? As far as size, the Ultimate Collector Series models do not gently caress around. For reference here is an average (but weird-looking) person holding the UCS Millenium Falcon which was 7,500 pieces: 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I literally cannot think of a potential market that fits the bill of "will pay exorbitant amounts for low-production high-quality replicas" better than Star Trek fans It's just modern nerd culture merchandising.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:26
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I remember ten years ago being really tempted to get the Lego Super Star Destroyer, and ultimately being deterred by the thought that I wouldn't have a place to put it after I finished building the drat thing. I did get the Lego Saturn V though, which works great since it can just stand up in the corner of a desk and not take up that much surface area.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:41
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Drone posted:though honor harrington sucks, fite me Admittedly coming from a place of not having read Hornblower, I don't think the Honor Harrington series is so much "Horatio Hornblower, in space" as it is "Tom Clancy, in space (where nobody can hear the editor scream)". That said I don't think anyone here is going to contest you on this.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:46
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Admittedly coming from a place of not having read Hornblower, I don't think the Honor Harrington series is so much "Horatio Hornblower, in space" as it is "Tom Clancy, in space (where nobody can hear the editor scream)". The author of the Honor Harrington series was fairly explicit about his use Hornblower and other Age of Sail references as the basis for the series. Said author is also a card-carrying member of the NRA.
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Sep 23, 2019 17:52
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Honor Harrington is obviously space Hornblower right down to the name, propensity to duel bullies, ridiculous accumulation of honors and titles, goof rear end French revolutionary opponents, but without the monumental insecurity that makes Hornblower occasionally tolerable as a character. Also she has a talking space cat and everyone loves her and she revolutionizes all space tactics forever and LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS
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Sep 23, 2019 17:57
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I've not read the books but I enjoyed the Hornblower tv show with Ioan Gruffudd. Someone uploaded the whole thing to youtube, well worth a watch. You can definitely see the inspiration for Star Trek when it comes to the naval adventure side of things.
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Sep 23, 2019 18:02
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marktheando posted:I've not read the books but I enjoyed the Hornblower tv show with Ioan Gruffudd. Someone uploaded the whole thing to youtube, well worth a watch. You can definitely see the inspiration for Star Trek when it comes to the naval adventure side of things. Yeah it’s good, similar Trek-adjacent appeal to Master and Commander.
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Sep 23, 2019 18:06
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Is there any similar material for land based exploration?
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Not exploration at all (neither was Hornblower) but I always sorta understood the Sharpe series to be kind of a land-based analog to Hornblower. Though maybe it's because they both had really good TV movie series that I watched at around the same-ish time.
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Sep 23, 2019 18:45
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Cornwell wrote the Sharpe books precisely to be a land-based analog to Hornblower. Land explorer stuff tends to be rather darker, or at least in worse taste, than sailing adventures, probably because there aren’t any Indians at sea. If you can find it you could try watching the Mexican movie Cabeza de Vaca, about one of the first white guys in the new world to do anything other than act like a monster.
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Sep 23, 2019 18:53
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Yeah the Hornblower/Trek crossover is strongest in the episodes where the Enterprise tangles with the
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Studs I think? They sell that for $800, so it works out to about 10.6 cents per piece. The regular Millennium Falcon they sell (current model is the Solo one) is $170 (but can be found on sale for less) and has 1400 pieces, about 12 cents a piece. So those collector's models are huge, and expensive, but they're not grossly overpriced for what you get compared to normal Legos.
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skasion posted:Honor Harrington is obviously space Hornblower right down to the name, propensity to duel bullies, ridiculous accumulation of honors and titles, goof rear end French revolutionary opponents, but without the monumental insecurity that makes Hornblower occasionally tolerable as a character. Also she has a talking space cat and everyone loves her and she revolutionizes all space tactics forever and LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS Yeah, well... I'm still going to refer to that series as "Tom Clancy in space" 
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Sep 23, 2019 20:16
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah, well... I'm still going to refer to that series as "Tom Clancy in space" Isn't that The Expanse?
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Sep 23, 2019 20:19
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Isn't that The Expanse? Realistically, Tom Clancy in Space is probably Babylon 5, given how heavily it dives into the Great Man theory of storytelling, overcoming government conspiracies and toppling alien powers.
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Timby posted:Realistically, Tom Clancy in Space is probably Babylon 5, given how heavily it dives into the Great Man theory of storytelling, overcoming government conspiracies and toppling alien powers. Clancy would never have written a story where the nativist gestapo were the villains though
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I want more talking space cats
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What was the star trek comic with talking space beavers
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shovelbum posted:I want more talking space cats
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shovelbum posted:I want more talking space cats 
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LividLiquid posted:You want Wing Commander III. There's 100% another "well-known sci-fi franchise with cat aliens whose name starts with a K" but I can't remember what it is e: found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kzin
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shovelbum posted:What was the star trek comic with talking space beavers I'm at work right now but it was an issue of the first DC run of Star Trek comics. as far as i know it's the only time those lil' rascals showed up. 
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Is he going to tell Spock to do a barrel roll?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:also a talking bird:  TAS fuckin’ owns, man.
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If I was doing a new star trek I swear a blood oath I'd spend most of the budget on really good CGI and puppet based TAS aliens as like half the characters.
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Baronjutter posted:If I was doing a new star trek I swear a blood oath I'd spend most of the budget on really good CGI and puppet based TAS aliens as like half the characters. Yeah but some coked up producer who has no idea what the series is would be like BUDGET NEEDS TO BE IN POINTLESS SPACE SHIP BATTLES or WHAT IF WE TOOK THAT IDEA AND MADE IT KLINGONS INSTEAD!!!!
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jeeves posted:Yeah but some coked up producer who has no idea what the series is would be like BUDGET NEEDS TO BE IN POINTLESS SPACE SHIP BATTLES or WHAT IF WE TOOK THAT IDEA AND MADE IT KLINGONS INSTEAD!!!! BUT ALSO REDESIGNED THE KLINGONS AGAIN NOW THAT'S WORTH THE BUDGET
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Baronjutter posted:If I was doing a new star trek I swear a blood oath I'd spend most of the budget on really good CGI and puppet based TAS aliens as like half the characters. i mean just do another animated series
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i mean just do another animated series *finger of monkey's paw curls*
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