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pretty much any given woman is smarter than any given dude in ippo like almost all of them have grown-rear end adult jobs and the vast majority are extremely rational people
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Meanwhile the dudes are making dick jokes and convincing each other that maybe brain damage is good, actually
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That Works posted:I think Mashiba and maybe Kimura are probably the only actual intelligent people in the manga right?
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i hope if they revisit woli he left his coach to return to his island because he got bored of boxing and doesnt do it anymore
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mabels big day posted:i hope if they revisit woli he left his coach to return to his island because he got bored of boxing and doesnt do it anymore Woli ended up running a software pirating ring out of Indonesia and is now an elusive millionaire wanted by Interpol
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Ippo fought a doctor once
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Billzasilver posted:Ippo fought a doctor once thematic appropriateness
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tbp posted:thematic appropriateness hahaha
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Woli is in Ippo's weight class still as far as I know, so maybe we'll see him again.
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Fabricated posted:Woli is in Ippo's weight class still as far as I know, so maybe we'll see him again. Kamogawa stated he would not let Ippo fight him again. On the grounds that he does not think Ippo would ever win in a rematch.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Kamogawa stated he would not let Ippo fight him again. On the grounds that he does not think Ippo would ever win in a rematch. Lol. That's so...Wow. I don't think I'll ever find the words for that.
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doomrider7 posted:Lol. That's so...Wow. I don't think I'll ever find the words for that. Look as long as he never, ever returns I don’t care how dumb the reason is.
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Asuron posted:Look as long as he never, ever returns I don’t care how dumb the reason is. That's basically admitting that Ippo is a complete mediocre joke of a boxer though. Like, a better one would be that Woli would be a waste of his time as a non-boxer.
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doomrider7 posted:That's basically admitting that Ippo is a complete mediocre joke of a boxer though. Well... he's not wrong
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tbp posted:over and over the comedy aspects of this manga are top tier. an entire gag on miyata not knowing how to do basic math and being embarassed about it owns I like having the "elite athlete" prince-trope character not magically be some all-around genius.
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edit: whoops, didn't mean to double-postdoomrider7 posted:That's basically admitting that Ippo is a complete mediocre joke of a boxer though. Like, a better one would be that Woli would be a waste of his time as a non-boxer. Nah, Ippo is still good, even if he's not good enough for the top of the world or w/e. Like, against most other professional boxers Ippo is capable of weaving around their punches. It's just that we only see him fighting these top-tier people (and the manga is kind of forced to make almost every fight high stakes in some way, so chapters aren't wasted with Ippo one-sidedly wrecking people). The main dumb thing about Ippo's fighting is the Dempsey Roll.
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Ytlaya posted:edit: whoops, didn't mean to double-post The thing is, having jobber fights are GOOD. And the thing was is that at the end we were seeing Ippo fight jobber-level dudes and basically still not just clean their clock. Turns out as fans we just wanna see the boxers show off and loving hammer it in. No one complained that Mashiba not only didn't get destroyed fighting his last match, but that he loving destroyed it. Ippo's supposed to be an in-fighter using a Peekaboo style boxing to weave and avoid blows before laying it in with the power. There are actually so few Hajime no Ippo fights that reflect that. It's not that Ippo shouldn't take hits from top contenders, it's that there's any fighters where he's not taking hits. So he just seems bad at boxing. And the one time he definitively shut down his opponent and crushed him, Coach was like "That wasn't Boxing"
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Onmi posted:The thing is, having jobber fights are GOOD. And the thing was is that at the end we were seeing Ippo fight jobber-level dudes and basically still not just clean their clock. Almost all of Ippo's last fights were National Champions.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Almost all of Ippo's last fights were National Champions. And that means...? You splice in some jobber fights in between those fights, with the exclusion of the retirement fight for obvious reasons, so that the national champion fights can...? Mean more. Yes. Mike Tyson whom Ippo gets a lot of his style from, fought a lot of national champion level boxers, and you know what didn't happen to him? He didn't get hamburgered. Joe Fraiser who was definitely another inspiration didn't dodge everything with crazy head movement, but he had a very tight defense and unleashed in a moment. The issue we have is Ippo's fighting style is meant to be "Peekaboo boxing with a tight guard, with erratic head and body movements to avoid strikes to get into range to unleash the pain." Ippo doesn't fight like that though. Ippo fights by getting the poo poo beat out of him and turned into hamburger and then gutting through it looking like a dead man at the end. And because of this, because he's always fighting like this, no matter who his loving opponents are, that means the standard Ippo fight does not get to be defined as "Ippo's a good boxer" but instead "Ippo is a lovely boxer who's strategy never works" Sisphar, Gedo, Kojima. All three of these fights, there's no reason he should have walked away without decisive victories. Instead, he walked away with the poo poo kicked out of him. Everyone can talk about how boring it is that Takamura gets as many jobber fights as does, but those Jobber fights help establish that when he's against world-class opponents like Hawk and Eagle, that those opponents are special for being able to push him as far as they can. In contrast, Ippo never gets Jobber fights, so he as champion looks weak, because even people who he should roundly crush, are taking to pain town.
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Well he did get the Korean guy before Bryan Hawk by a lucky Dempsey. But the only proper jobber crush was against Karasawa. Like 500 chapters ago, so everyone forgot about it. And what a surprise, it was the fight where he decided to seal the demspey roll and stick to the basics.
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Onmi posted:And that means...? You splice in some jobber fights in between those fights, with the exclusion of the retirement fight for obvious reasons, so that the national champion fights can...? Mean more. Yes. I remember being annoyed and dissatisfied with Ippo vs Sanada (the doctor). I know it was a movie fight so they had to punch it up, and that Sanada wasn't a pushover, but this was coming right off of Ippo beating Sendo who may as well have been the strongest man in the world, and here's Ippo getting absolutely demolished, gasping for air, and not even being able to put the doctor down decisively with the full Dempsey combo. Did he not improve at all? Where has this doctor been all this time? And that was even before all of the other ridiculous fights like Gedo and Shimabukuro who Ippo should've been able to clown on. Definitely a case of wanting to make every fight to be epic, but with no dramatic contrast between them, it just feels stagnant.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Kamogawa stated he would not let Ippo fight him again. On the grounds that he does not think Ippo would ever win in a rematch. This was the most realistic part of this boxing manga. Part of a manager/coach's job is choosing fights good for your fighter.
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FutureCop posted:Where has this doctor been all this time?. Busy being the champ in the weight class below ippo? He did what takamura does and relinquished his belt to move up
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FutureCop posted:I remember being annoyed and dissatisfied with Ippo vs Sanada (the doctor). I know it was a movie fight so they had to punch it up, and that Sanada wasn't a pushover, but this was coming right off of Ippo beating Sendo who may as well have been the strongest man in the world, and here's Ippo getting absolutely demolished, gasping for air, and not even being able to put the doctor down decisively with the full Dempsey combo. Did he not improve at all? Where has this doctor been all this time? And that was even before all of the other ridiculous fights like Gedo and Shimabukuro who Ippo should've been able to clown on. Definitely a case of wanting to make every fight to be epic, but with no dramatic contrast between them, it just feels stagnant. Sanada was the Jr Feather Champion. That is where he had been the whole time. Edit: On the current chapter. Kimura really needs to go up a weight class, he really should have just said he would race with Aoki instead of staying at Jr Light. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Sanada was the Jr Feather Champion. That is where he had been the whole time. IIRC Kimura's said that he'd never go up a weight class so he wouldn't have to compete with Aoki
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CharlestonJew posted:IIRC Kimura's said that he'd never go up a weight class so he wouldn't have to compete with Aoki I know that, but he really should. It's just not viable for him to stay where he is anymore.
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Didn’t know they had these things but it makes perfect sense for the length of the series. They’re “Best Bout” books with just the chapters for specific fights. The two here are Ippo vs Jimmy Sisphar and Takamura vs David Eagle. Price looks to be about the cost of 2-3 volumes, not sure how much a normal volume costs in Japan these days. Like this kind of thing is cool enough and collected enough that I might get myself a few on Amazon Japan soon. http://twitter.com/hermanos/status/1199706395223842816
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Chapter 1283 Oh dear lord Takamura's shadow boxing... Ippo making some bad choices here.
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drat kimura you live like this?
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Hypocrisy posted:Chapter 1283 Yeah no gently caress him at this point. What he's doing is loving criminally dangerous bullshit and Takamura's whole though process is uber macho bullshit with no basis in reality. Like I know this is not in any way a realistic series, but gently caress man COME ONE. This one here is jumping the shark right there.
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I always felt those were exaggerations but yeah this is one is taking it to the extreme. Seriously that dream/promise is really loving stupid. You both lose all the drat time anyways. or tie.
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Yeah after this match Kimura needs to give up on Jr Light.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah after this match Kimura needs to give up
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I feel that this is yet another Kamogawa fuckup. Ippo never had to cut weight, he's clearly not qualified to handle someone else's weight cut and he's been poisoned by his coach's talk of "warrior spirit" and poo poo, so he's gonna acquiesce to what the boxer wants instead of making the call and withdrawing from the fight. Don't let the kid handle the hardest cut among professional boxers in your gym, FFS.
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If you cant go up to light weight for Aoki, go up two weight classes instead. Probably a better idea than what hes doing now.
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Dias posted:I feel that this is yet another Kamogawa fuckup. Ippo never had to cut weight, he's clearly not qualified to handle someone else's weight cut and he's been poisoned by his coach's talk of "warrior spirit" and poo poo, so he's gonna acquiesce to what the boxer wants instead of making the call and withdrawing from the fight. Don't let the kid handle the hardest cut among professional boxers in your gym, FFS. i mean takamuras is significantly harder by all accounts that said i dislike the shaved head!! i hope it goes away soon!!
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Why did ippo shave his own head this time? I mean he probably could've got there sooner if he had just shaved kimura's head. He didnt just buzz it either, he got it clean and put some shine on it.
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