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Sakurazuka posted:Only Episode 2 was ever released in EU territories, it came with a DVD of the cut-scenes for the first game. No-one bought it because we didn't get the first game, so they never bothered with the third game. As a fan of Xenosaga, 2 is bad. 2 is basically "well we didn't release the first in EU, and we gotta SPICE THINGS UP, so lets make it have a lovely combat system. Oh wait what do you mean it's so awful we've alienated existing fans!"
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I can't believe I forgot about SMT: Nocturne (Lucifer's Call in the EU).  I already have Tales of the Abyss on 3DS. Good to know that Xenosaga II isn't very good. I probably read "Xeno" and turned my brain off.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:06
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Umlaut posted:I never owned a PS2 and finally bought one recently. I'm slightly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of (J)RPGs available and almost bought Unlimited SaGa before reading some reviews. Is it really that bad? Grandia II and Kingdom Hearts are both fun games that cost barely anything online these days
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Umlaut posted:I never owned a PS2 and finally bought one recently. I'm slightly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of (J)RPGs available and almost bought Unlimited SaGa before reading some reviews. Is it really that bad? PAL region, I'm guessing? Not sure which of these got released there, but you might be interested in Dark Cloud, Disgaea, Disgaea 2, Phantom Brave, La Pucelle, God Hand (might take a while to find a non-pricy copy, and it's more action-y than most RPGs), Growlanser (any of them), Legaia 2: Duel Saga, Makai Kingdom, Metal Saga, Okage: Shadow King, Rogue Galaxy, Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 & 4, Soul Nomad & The World Eaters (again, might take a while to find a reasonable copy), Suikoden III, Suikoden IV, Suikoden Tactics, Summoner, Summoner 2, Tsugunai: Atonement, Way of the Samurai 1 & 2 (action-y, and can be a little heavy on the fetch quests, but interesting), Yakuza, and Yakuza 2 (finding a reasonably-priced copy of this one will be the most difficult). I would recommend selling your copy of Star Ocean 3. Darthemed fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Feb 20, 2013 18:10
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If you want something with a Shin Megami Tensei feel to it, but think that Nocturne isn't really JRPG-y enough, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 are pretty solid choices. They're SMT games, but with a more traditional party-based gameplay and no demon raising. Plus you don't need to put up with friendship speeches every ten goddamn minutes.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:12
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I like Xenosaga II, including the combat system. If you can't play the first game, though, I wouldn't bother. Just watching the cutscenes from the first game without actually playing it sounds like a horrible time.
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Darthemed posted:PAL region, I'm guessing? Not sure which of these got released there, but you might be interested in Dark Cloud, Disgaea, Disgaea 2, Phantom Brave, La Pucelle, God Hand (might take a while to find a non-pricy copy, and it's more action-y than most RPGs), Growlanser (any of them), Legaia 2: Duel Saga, Makai Kingdom, Metal Saga, Okage: Shadow King, Rogue Galaxy, Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 & 4, Soul Nomad & The World Eaters (again, might take a while to find a reasonable copy), Suikoden III, Suikoden IV, Suikoden Tactics, Summoner, Summoner 2, Tsugunai: Atonement, Way of the Samurai 1 & 2 (action-y, and can be a little heavy on the fetch quests, but interesting), Yakuza, and Yakuza 2 (finding a reasonably-priced copy of this one will be the most difficult). Yeah, I'm in the PAL region, forgot to mention that. Also, thanks for the suggestions everyone! It's amazing how many worthwhile games there are on the PS2.
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Armor-Piercing posted:I like Xenosaga II, including the combat system. If you can't play the first game, though, I wouldn't bother. Just watching the cutscenes from the first game without actually playing it sounds like a horrible time. Guess what was a preorder bonus for Xenosaga II?
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Feb 20, 2013 19:05
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Umlaut posted:I never owned a PS2 and finally bought one recently. I'm slightly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of (J)RPGs available and almost bought Unlimited SaGa before reading some reviews. Is it really that bad? It's worse.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:49
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dis astranagant posted:It's worse. I remember when I thought Square could do no wrong. 
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Unlimited Saga is awesome, it just appeals to a very particular taste. The mechanics are incredibly obscure but once you get past that it probably has more in common with D&D or table top games in general. It's also a gorgeous game with an amazing soundtrack. I can totally see how it's not everyone's cup of tea but I'm a big fan. Some dude on Youtube made like 90 minutes of tutorial videos explaining the denser concepts in the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1brcx4bDoFY I got a lot more out of the game after watching them.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:57
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Or you could play an actually good game that doesn't require homework first.
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I bought Unlimited Saga for three bucks a few years back. I was swindled.
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Speaking of being swindled by terrible RPGs, just how bad was Lunar: Dragon Song? I've talked to one guy who put it down in half an hour but did anyone stick with it?
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Feb 21, 2013 21:35
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It goes bad to worse. I beat half of it by cheating and even then it was a slog. Don't waste your time.
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If you love walking (not running, that drains your health!) through dungeons twice, one time collecting items the next time collecting EXP, then Lunar: Dragon Song is for you! But they probably don't let you have games in the mental ward.
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dis astranagant posted:Speaking of being swindled by terrible RPGs, just how bad was Lunar: Dragon Song? I've talked to one guy who put it down in half an hour but did anyone stick with it?
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Feb 22, 2013 03:27
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Speaking of RPGs, apparently enough crazy people signed up for the physical copy of Class of Heroes 2. Now people can vote on the covers. http://www.gaijinworks.com/ The only one that looks half-way decent is D. All the other ones makes me twitch.
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Feb 22, 2013 03:28
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I like the last option in the poll.
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Agnostalgia posted:I bought Unlimited Saga for three bucks a few years back. I was swindled. I thought this, but replace Unlimited Saga with Magna Carta. God that made me mad. Then they actually made a second game!
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I thought this, but replace Unlimited Saga with Magna Carta. God that made me mad. Then they actually made a second game! The second game is actually a lot better. Also, the PC game is SO much better than all of them... Too bad it's stuck in translation hell. 
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dis astranagant posted:Speaking of being swindled by terrible RPGs, just how bad was Lunar: Dragon Song? I've talked to one guy who put it down in half an hour but did anyone stick with it? I finished it It ranks amongst the worst JRPGs I ever played and I would never ever play it again under any circumstances. It does everything wrong. It doesn't even have the folksy charm of the other Lunar games.
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I noticed earlier today that Spiderweb Software announced Avadon 2: The Corruption for Fall 2013. They always release the Mac version before the PC version, and there'll even be an iPad version. http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/avadon2/index.html I greatly enjoyed the first Avadon, so I thought someone else might be interested.
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Feb 22, 2013 03:46
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What about Silver Star Harmony? Any reason to give up my emulator speedup button to play that on PSP instead of just firing up the Playstation version?
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dis astranagant posted:I like the last option in the poll. Whenever Atlus or other companies would hold polls like this, the objectively worst cover would always win. Spiderweb Software is amazing. I loved Avadon so this is gonna own. I finally started playing the Geneforge games recently too. You should definitely play Lunar: Dragon Song. You can learn a lot from it the same way you learn more about film making from watching a bad movie than a good one. Finish this game and you can probably design the next Xenoblade.
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I meant the gently caress them all just send a blank piece of paper and some crayons one.
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dis astranagant posted:I meant the gently caress them all just send a blank piece of paper and some crayons one. The PSP game is all around great imo. It does a great job of retaining the feel and tone of the originals while being better in every other way. THAT said, if you're like already halfway through a game or something don't worry about it.
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Daler Mehndi posted:I noticed earlier today that Spiderweb Software announced Avadon 2: The Corruption for Fall 2013. They always release the Mac version before the PC version, and there'll even be an iPad version.  This is awesome.It sucked that they went to do that one Exile remake after Avadon 1 instead of going straight for this game because Avadon felt much more interesting after playing nothing but tons of Exiles / Avernums. I mean goddamn Jeff, let those Exiles rest already. They're stating fall 2013 for both Mac and PC, wonder if that'll hold. Hasn't it usually been more like fall for Mac and early next year for PC?
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Sooo I just played a game called Crimson Shroud. I dig the art direction and, Matsuno is just, my favorite human being when it comes to video games, but aside from that I don't really have many good things to say about it. Admittingly Matsuno's writing is a big part of the game (although this entry into his portfolio seemed rather weak, honestly. I think he is better suited to giant political struggles and not....dungeon crawls....) The biggest problem is that there's way too much random chance involved. I know that it's a jrpg, but random chance is such an awful game mechanic and having to actually roll the virtual dice makes it all the more unbearable. And the game doesn't really evolve in any way as your characters get stronger. The optimal strategy is always apply buffs/debuffs and attack. also, a design choice I have not seen in 80000 years, having to get plot-related items necessary to advancing the game forward from random mob drops. and it's not even hinted that you are supposed to do this. On the other hand, the 3d effect on the 3DS actually looks really good and it's only eight dollars!
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It's supposed to be more boardgame than rpg.
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board game? like monopoly? my understanding that it was supposed to draw very heavily from d&d and be a tabletop game in that sense, but it really isn't unless you count the aesthetics, since all characters are literally game pieces, because you never make any choices. the gm is a railroading rear end in a top hat!
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Feb 22, 2013 09:29
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Like 90 percent of GMs. Still a fun romp though.
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dis astranagant posted:What about Silver Star Harmony? Any reason to give up my emulator speedup button to play that on PSP instead of just firing up the Playstation version? The graphics are nicer, the script is the same minus a few dated pop-culture jokes, but the load times are absolutely brutal. Stick with what you've got, I'd say.
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Wendell posted:The graphics are nicer, the script is the same minus a few dated pop-culture jokes, but the load times are absolutely brutal. Stick with what you've got, I'd say. Pretty much this. What makes the loading times even more jarring is that the music will cut out every time a new area loads, so when you're in town for example, the music cuts out during the few seconds it takes for the game to load a house you just entered, and then again when you leave. It's annoying as hell.
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It's probably been talked about somewhere in the thread, but do yall have any thoughts on The Last Remnant? It's 5 dollars right now on Amazon, but I'm wondering if it's even worth touching.
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I enjoyed it, it was good. But double check that it's the superior PC version that you're getting.
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Kevlar Beard posted:It's probably been talked about somewhere in the thread, but do yall have any thoughts on The Last Remnant? It's 5 dollars right now on Amazon, but I'm wondering if it's even worth touching. Really hard, but a good challenge. As said, make sure it's the PC version.
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Kevlar Beard posted:It's probably been talked about somewhere in the thread, but do yall have any thoughts on The Last Remnant? It's 5 dollars right now on Amazon, but I'm wondering if it's even worth touching. \/\/\/ No, the scaling is still there, it's just not quite as bad. Enough to nip any impression that you're actually getting stronger right in the bud, though. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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Cardiovorax posted:Ever play Final Fantasy 8? If you can deal with enemy leveling that's at least that bad then it's alright. If you like to feel like you're actually making progress instead of just treading in place then I'd save the money. This was one of the things that's fixed in the PC version. The 360 version has ridiculously aggressive enemy scaling. Edit: Did the person who gave you that custom title actually think it painted you in a bad light?
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Well, 25 hours in and I'm officially bored of Resonance of Fate. I hit a sidequest that requires item farming and farming is very tedious on this battle system.
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