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Grand Fromage posted:I'll bite, I've stared at it for like a minute and can't see anything wrong with it. What's your problem with the effects? The brief shot of it firing toward the end of the clip looks like something that was done on the TOS-R budget, especially the beams. Most of the other CG looks pretty good, though.
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Masks is Joe Menosky's work, isn't it? It's got to be. Might actually be his weakest outing if so. (And like everyone's saying, jam-packed with unrealized potential.)
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High concept weirdness that may or may not work on screen is Joe Menosky’s schtick
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Exactly why I'm guessing it's one of his.
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bennyfactor posted:The brief shot of it firing toward the end of the clip looks like something that was done on the TOS-R budget, especially the beams. Most of the other CG looks pretty good, though. There's only so much you can do with those sort of designs, they're antithetical to the things that look best using CGI. Also why modern designs are often crappier stylistically, because they're designed knowing they will be CGI. Lots of the spiky angular stuff you get on Eaves inspired designs would be really hard to do if you had to physically build the models.
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skasion posted:Rome but a bit futurey is all romulans have ever been. The real sin is that romulans are still so boring and don’t do anything remotely interesting with “space romans”, which is a great idea even if you just rip off actual history. Trek writers can’t even be bothered to do that and just default to “they’re mean and their ships are invisible” most of the time. I have seen so many trek episodes in my life and I had no idea that romulans had anything to do with Rome. In Hindsight, it seems like it should be obvious from their name alone but I just took it as scifi race name. AFAIK Romulans were literally just Vulcans with meaner eyebrows. A brief look at wikipedia and it seems even the shows creators never had much of a good idea of what to do with them and just change poo poo almost every time they show up.
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i am sure somebody has made a Big List about all the times trek was Rome But In Space. i am sure it was a long rear end list
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Have any real Romans ever appeared in Trek? There’s Romulans and Planet Rome but everyone there is conveniently original characters. Caesar gets name dropped a lot alongside his fellow tyrants Hitler and Barglon of Antares-9, but I can’t remember him ever actually turning up. Smh if Amelia Earhart made it on the show before him
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skasion posted:Have any real Romans ever appeared in Trek? There’s Romulans and Planet Rome but everyone there is conveniently original characters. Caesar gets name dropped a lot alongside his fellow tyrants Hitler and Barglon of Antares-9, but I can’t remember him ever actually turning up. Smh if Amelia Earhart made it on the show before him Apollo? 
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Angry_Ed posted:Apollo? A mere Hellene. Let’s get some true Romans in here 
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skasion posted:A mere Hellene. Let’s get some true Romans in here Norm!!
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Masks is Joe Menosky's work, isn't it? It's got to be. Might actually be his weakest outing if so. (And like everyone's saying, jam-packed with unrealized potential.) Yeah, I think it was Fifty Year Mission where one of the writers said something like "Menosky came back with this script and we were all wondering what the hell kind of drugs he was taking while he was on vacation" skasion posted:Have any real Romans ever appeared in Trek? There’s Romulans and Planet Rome but everyone there is conveniently original characters. Caesar gets name dropped a lot alongside his fellow tyrants Hitler and Barglon of Antares-9, but I can’t remember him ever actually turning up. Smh if Amelia Earhart made it on the show before him Almost owned myself by asking "which Planet Rome?" when I remembered that Plato's Stepchildren was a Planet Greece. That said, maybe Flint from Requiem for Methuselah?
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skasion posted:Have any real Romans ever appeared in Trek? There’s Romulans and Planet Rome but everyone there is conveniently original characters. Caesar gets name dropped a lot alongside his fellow tyrants Hitler and Barglon of Antares-9, but I can’t remember him ever actually turning up. Smh if Amelia Earhart made it on the show before him Do the Mirror Universe Terrans count?
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Senor Tron posted:There's only so much you can do with those sort of designs, they're antithetical to the things that look best using CGI. CGI can look like literally anything. Really the question is why have they chosen to keep it looking like TOS when all they have to do to make it not that is add some surface detail and light it properly. Even though I hate how Disco looks I do at least have to give it credit for throwing out the idea that the tos ships are any kind of "visual canon", versus mirror universe Enterprise that gave us forgettable crewmember #3 gasping at how advanced a row of blinking lights was. Basically they should hire me to control the look of everything because my opinions are correct and the best.
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Grand Fromage posted:He's also in his D uniform so I'm guessing dream.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Since we got pages of speculation out of a still shot from Lower Decks, how about the fact that people are predicting Chakotay briefly appears and gets killed by the Borg in Picard off of this screenshot from the trailer: I know hair dye exists, but Robert Beltran is completely gray these days and...a bit larger.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Since we got pages of speculation out of a still shot from Lower Decks, how about the fact that people are predicting Chakotay briefly appears and gets killed by the Borg in Picard off of this screenshot from the trailer: Beltran probably fought super hard for this
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Pick posted:Beltran probably fought super hard for this A-coochie-no-more-a
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HD DAD posted:In the final episode Ensign Gomez rounds a corner and accidentally spills hot chocolate on Picard again and He loving Vaporizes Her. Is she in the Harry Kim "somebody has to be the ensign" club?
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The Bloop posted:I hope Ro Laren is in this
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I'm a little baffled by how much people obsess over Ro since isn't she in like... seven episodes? I guess that's a lot for a recurring character.
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Ro was fairly complex and sympathetic for a minor-ish recurring character. Plus Michelle Forbes is a good actor and she’s nice to look at
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HD DAD posted:Ro was fairly complex and sympathetic for a minor-ish recurring character. Plus Michelle Forbes is a good actor and she’s nice to look at She was delightfully bonkers on True Blood
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Snow Cone Capone posted:She was delightfully bonkers on True Blood Her most bizarre appearance to me was the 30 seconds she appeared on Lost.
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I remember the season she was on ‘24’ and some villain threw her down the stairs
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HD DAD posted:Ro was fairly complex and sympathetic for a minor-ish recurring character. She was created to be the main cast Bajoran on DS9, but Forbes turned it down and they created Kira instead.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:She was created to be the main cast Bajoran on DS9, but Forbes turned it down and they created Kira instead. I always got the impression she was initially introduced as “replacement Wesley” after he left the previous season, and then was roped into DS9 (which she turned down), but I could be way wrong on that
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I'd watch "TNG but replace every instance of Wesley being a whiny baby with Ro telling everyone to gently caress off"
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Ro was added because Berman and Piller wanted an edgy and disagreeable recurring character to spice up the show a bit. More like a replacement for Pulaski than for Wesley.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I remember the season she was on ‘24’ and some villain threw her down the stairs Was it that or Alias where she gets kidnapped by some bad guys who break her fingers and then ask her to make a thing and she's like "how do you expect me to make thing when you broke my fingers numbnuts"?
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I'd watch "TNG but replace every instance of Wesley being a whiny baby with Ro telling everyone to gently caress off" I think the highlight of this would be Tasha Yar giving the "just say no to drugs" speech to Ro instead of to Wesley. 
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Just say no to space drugs is probably good advice though. There's gotta be a dangerous poo poo out there.
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She was a great horrific fascist war criminal on Battlestar Galactica too.
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