|
DrNutt posted:This is the most hosed up thing I've read in this whole thread. at least it's not Enterprise
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 19:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 13:13 |
|
|
^lol Well at least they're not re-watching Deep Space 9?
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 19:48
|
|
|
DrNutt posted:This is the most hosed up thing I've read in this whole thread. Year of Hell was p. cool, but they shouldn't have fixed it, the ship should have been beaten to poo poo the entire time. Voyager had some great episodes, its just that the bad overwhelms everything with it's horrendous poo poo. DS9 Dominion War kicks loving rear end. Only a Paper Moon is off the charts badass.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:00
|
|
|
My spouse and I decided to watch all the Star Trek in order. It's been real hard now that we ran out of DS9, and I know things are only going to get worse...
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:04
|
|
|
Mercury_Storm posted:^lol I will cut you.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:47
|
|
|
DS9 rocks.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:46
|
|
|
Mercury_Storm posted:^lol Thems fightin words.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:04
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml4wAnvfM4M
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:08
|
|
|
moths posted:I'm re-watching Voyager, and Tim Russ seems to be doing a bad Obama impression the whole time. Maybe that's just how people talk on Vulcan. Reminder that you can thank Jeri Ryan for the rise of Obama.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:12
|
|
|
Dabir posted:DS9 rocks. Yeah, I love watching a war criminal and godling answerable to no one betray everything respectable about the federation because trek wasn't "gritty and extreme" enough for the nineties.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:15
|
|
|
Mister Macys posted:Yeah, I love watching a war criminal and godling answerable to no one betray everything respectable about the federation because trek wasn't "gritty and extreme" enough for the nineties. But enough about Janeway.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:20
|
|
|
The incredibly racist jew aliens were also a very good inclusion into the series. WHoops did I say good? Because I meant very bad.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:27
|
|
|
Mister Macys posted:Yeah, I love watching a war criminal and godling answerable to no one betray everything respectable about the federation because trek wasn't "gritty and extreme" enough for the nineties. Hey man I don't know about you, but if I ever get set up as space Jesus to a species living in a strategically important part of space I'd be warcriming all over space. Ran Mad Dog posted:The incredibly racist jew aliens were also a very good inclusion into the series. Dukat was right. Technical Analysis fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Mar 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:30
|
|
|
bango skank posted:But enough about Janeway. She kept Voyager safe.  Serious reply: She didn't commit treason by disobeying general orders and directives, like Sisko. Yeah, she hosed herself and her crew, but she hosed them by the book.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:37
|
|
|
Ran Mad Dog posted:The incredibly racist jew aliens were also a very good inclusion into the series. Yeah, seriously whose idea was it to include the Ferengi and why oh god did they make their portrayal as such. Like I get they were originally conceived to be a social commentary on American culture...but why did they make them some cross between ridiculously antisemtic cartoons and oompah loompahs.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:40
|
|
|
Mister Macys posted:She kept Voyager safe. Bullshit. Janeway violated the Prime Directive more times than Donald Trump has failed businesses.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:41
|
|
|
Mister Macys posted:She kept Voyager safe. I feel like maybe you didn't watch either series if this is your conclusion?
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:41
|
|
|
Inside Edition just posted an interview with the Trump sucker puncher where he says he's proud of what he did because you just can't know if the guy was an ISIS or not, and that the next time "we" see him we might have to kill him. Thanks again, Don.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:46
|
|
|
Intel&Sebastian posted:Inside Edition just posted an interview with the Trump sucker puncher where he says he's proud of what he did because you just can't know if the guy was an ISIS or not, and that the next time "we" see him we might have to kill him. Jesus Christ. Someone seriously needs to put the brakes on these people or someone really will die. That's not hyperbole. There are no boundaries for the White and Angry. EDIT: it's worse than that even: http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him quote:When asked if he liked the rally, he said: “You bet I liked it. Knocking the hell out of that big mouth.” Levantine fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Mar 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 22:49
|
|
|
In one of the videos you can see 3-4 cops surround the black guy after he was punched & put him on the ground and grab his arms, presumably while the Trump yahoo was being interviewed by Inside Edition. This loving racist rear end country.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:01
|
|
|
beatlegs posted:In one of the videos you can see 3-4 cops surround the black guy after he was punched & put him on the ground and grab his arms, presumably while the Trump yahoo was being interviewed by Inside Edition. This loving racist rear end country. They're being investigated over that. Not that it invalidates anything you said or the disgusting displays going on at every trump rally where cops are acting like loving brownshirts dragging people out for often not much more than being on the wrong end of racial hatred.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:06
|
|
|
beatlegs posted:In one of the videos you can see 3-4 cops surround the black guy after he was punched & put him on the ground and grab his arms, presumably while the Trump yahoo was being interviewed by Inside Edition. This loving racist rear end country. And the cops are like "uh, we don't know exactly what happened when our officers magically appeared on top of the victim, if you've seen a dastardly wizard please contact us. Walking upstairs is complicated and things just kinda happen so quickly that you can't see exactly what's going on when you are moving in three dimensions simultaneously. Just once again, we don't see any wrong doing with what we did even though we don't exactly know what we did, thank you."
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:06
|
|
|
Levantine posted:I feel like maybe you didn't watch either series if this is your conclusion? Watched them both, hated them for different reasons. But Sisko is a literal was criminal and traitor worse than Oliver North.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:08
|
|
|
Mister Macys posted:Watched them both, hated them for different reasons. But Sisko is a literal was criminal and traitor worse than Oliver North. I think this is entirely hyperbolic but if you feel that way about Sisko I'm not sure how you didn't come to the same conclusion about Janeway. She straight up tortured folks and confined people to quarters for going "hey um, maybe that's wrong?". Either way, probably not the best place for Trek discussion when there are actual real life villains to criticize right now.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:10
|
|
|
If I hear one more cable news pundit describe Trump supporters' "frustration" or "anger at the status quo" as the reason for all this ugly behavior I'm gonna explode.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:17
|
|
|
It's starting to feel like a middle school classroom where the adults have been absent for a few hours. They just keep testing the boundaries and pushing further and further but because we as a society tolerate this bullshit "truth in the middle" fallacy, they get away with it. No matter how abhorrent the ideal, we have to "allow for it". I'm really fighting my disgust today, but I'll be damned if I know who needs to do what or how to start to resolve it. Maybe the media could take some responsibility and shame these people but nobody wants to lose access.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:24
|
|
|
Levantine posted:Jesus Christ. Someone seriously needs to put the brakes on these people or someone really will die. That's not hyperbole. There are no boundaries for the White and Angry. I see conservatives have taken preemptive attacks from the nation/state level to the personal level.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:25
|
|
|
Levantine posted:Jesus Christ. Someone seriously needs to put the brakes on these people or someone really will die. That's not hyperbole. There are no boundaries for the White and Angry. Its statements like this that make me wonder if someone is going to walk into a trump rally carrying a gun. Question is if they'll be defending themselves from a white rear end in a top hat or from the guy next to them who doesn't look very American to him. Could be ISIS for all they know.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:38
|
|
|
Levantine posted:Jesus Christ. Someone seriously needs to put the brakes on these people or someone really will die. That's not hyperbole. There are no boundaries for the White and Angry. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trump rallies are just hate groups with good publicity. The fact that the media is so gutless as to legitimize such blatant racism for fear of pissing off ranting white people is what angers me the most about matters involving the GOP.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:39
|
|
|
We don't know if that guy is a member of a white nationalist terrorist organization. Better put 2 in the back of his skull, just to be safe.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:41
|
|
|
I think the power and horror of Trump, while no joke, is being over represented and not just in the oft stated "media gets ratings from him" way. The gop primary takes place in an almost literal gop alternate universe. And when any news outlet covers it, more often than not they are operating within this universe. The gop and their voters don't care much for fact checking, so they don't do as much of it. Same goes for follow ups, giving appropriate weight to outrageous claims, etc. Why waste time covering the myriad gently caress ups when no voters or candidates care that much. In this alternate universe trump is king, the threat of taking away access matters because he is the draw. The threat of going too hard on him risks alienating some of the most fervent consumers of trump news. And the risk in failing to cover him comprehensively isn't that big. This isn't the big game yet and the last 3 gop primaries (at least) have been silly affairs. The other candidates can't go hard on him or talk about the truly disgusting parts of his campaign because they know there are (or were) their own people. You can't talk too honestly ablut his wall, or his hate for islam, or his gently caress EVERYTHING policies because its not a meme or a joke that their platforms and voters are basically the same. All these things change when it becomes a real contest. Hillary and Bernie aren't lightweights, they aren't beholden to the sickness powering trump, they won't be under him on the polls. It looks bad, but that's because he's destroying a party that teed themselves up for years for exactly this, the people who could defend them are poo poo candidates who kinda agree with him, and the media doesn't really care if the gop kills itself. I'm not making a stump trump prediction, but I think so many things change when this becomes a general race, that you shouldnt feel hopeless and despair in the face of this poo poo just yet. Godzilla wrecked his containment facility but he hasn't wrecked japan yet. And japan is much much much better equipped to deal with him.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 23:51
|
|
|
Well it's one thing when a candidate or party implodes, it's another when people are openly & actively encouraged to hate others by a party frontrunner and the newsmedia refuses to call it out. Trump seems to be conjuring the ugliness out of people that had long been hibernating and the more he enables it the more increasingly dangerous it could become. If one person dies because of this poo poo it's one too many.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:01
|
|
|
This is also not to say I expect the media to do a good job covering the 2016 election with trump in it, but there's a lot more pressure to do it better in the general. Right now you're pressured to do better than daily caller, blaze and breitbart and If you meet that standard then gently caress it, print it.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:03
|
|
|
quote:Asked if the incident cast an unfavorable light on how the sheriff’s office handled security at the Trump event, Sgt. Swain said, “We’ve been the bad guys since Ferguson. We’re fighting an uphill battle for the public’s perception.”
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:08
|
|
|
But again, I think a big reason these rallies aren't getting the full throated rejection they deserve is because they're playing out in an arena where people obviously don't care that much about looking like nazi's or stomping protestors. The main people who care about this race from the bottom all the way up to mitt romney or so, are looking and saying "eh well that's bad but (nebulous reason why an obvious display of evil isn't that bad)" and moving on. And at some point the media has to say "this is their game, they said that's not against the rules and they're moving on, this is poo poo, but I have to also move on and cover this". My overall point is, when Dem eyes are on the news, and people in the game care about things like "not being actual nazis" and "not being violent in your politics" and WANT people held accountable, its a lot more likely to happen. Republicans are poo poo, their contest is poo poo, their candidate is poo poo, their voters are poo poo, their leadership is poo poo, and they're reaping it so fast we can barely keep up. Luckily they aren't representative of the whole country, and hopefully we will prove it soon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:10
|
|
|
Good reputation among which subset of the population? It's pretty much common knowledge that the worst offenders in any department are a handful of guys with dozens of offenses, who only escape punishment by hiding behind the blue line. I bet the worst of the worst absolutely queue up to work security for Trump
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:11
|
|
|
gently caress these police. Yes you are the bad guys in ferguson and you're the bad guys taking down someone who was just assaulted while the perp laughs. Get it through your loving skull before we toss you out on your rear end.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:12
|
|
|
Burned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3scctsGFng
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:31
|
|
|
A mean, petty part of me wanted that dude to turn to the Drumpf sycophant and say "Shhh...Adults are talking."
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 00:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 13:13 |
|
|
Intel&Sebastian posted:I think the power and horror of Trump, while no joke, is being over represented and not just in the oft stated "media gets ratings from him" way. I keep telling this to other people and also repeating it to myself. I don't want to deny 100% that Trump could become president, because who the hell knows in this loving election. But it's poo poo like what you said that keeps me reminding myself I don't have a reason to panic just yet. I mean, I do have reason to be really loving concerned about the massive proportion of violent racists in our country, but at least I can tell myself that's just what's been there the whole time. They're just getting riled up now because they feel threatened by social progress.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2016 01:21
|
|
