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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Solemn Sloth posted:

I’m not a huge Andrews fan and think we’d probably have a better performing and more consultative government if he took a couple of hits to his lower house majority next November but I still enjoy this because of all the sweat and tears fuckwits like Baxendale have put into taking him down for no result whatsoever.

I would argue that DAndrews' popularity less to do with him and Labor, and more to do with the sack of warm piss that is the Victorian Opposition.

Seriously, our State Liberals are loving awful.

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Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...
Imo Dan's and Labor's popularity was built on actually doing things unlike the Libs who were in power for ages and did loving nothing. So a combination of Libs being useless and Labor being useful. I don't see that changing anytime soon so it'll probably take some bullshit scandal to get rid of Labor in Vic.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Periphery posted:

Imo Dan's and Labor's popularity was built on actually doing things unlike the Libs who were in power for ages and did loving nothing. So a combination of Libs being useless and Labor being useful. I don't see that changing anytime soon so it'll probably take some bullshit scandal to get rid of Labor in Vic.

Yep, Andrews brand has been built on the level crossing removal project. I agree with Brigadier though in that his brand has been protected by the complete lack of an alternative.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Periphery posted:

Imo Dan's and Labor's popularity was built on actually doing things unlike the Libs who were in power for ages and did loving nothing.

I've lived in Melbourne for ten years and all I remember Bailliue's government doing is forcefully acquiring people's houses in the path of a road tunnel they never built

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

freebooter posted:

I've lived in Melbourne for ten years and all I remember Bailliue's government doing is forcefully acquiring people's houses in the path of a road tunnel they never built

also puppy farms.

Robodog
Oct 22, 2004

...how does that work?
Neither Baillieu or Napthine even lasted as long as fuckin' John Brumby

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




obviously im against all violence i abhor violence but i understand where people are coming from and labor ( the enemy of the free people) should stop thier communistic totalitaria

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

BrigadierSensible posted:

I would argue that DAndrews' popularity less to do with him and Labor, and more to do with the sack of warm piss that is the Victorian Opposition.

Seriously, our State Liberals are loving awful.

perhaps the same can be said of all liberals

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I just saw a car with the license plate 1488 and P plates.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

I just saw a car with the license plate 1488 and P plates.

I once saw an overwieght man on a black moped covered in bad tattoos with the numberplate that said SKINHD.

Unrelated but there used to be a car that would park near my old local with a white on red GOATSE plate.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I saw BBWLUV once. It was a Mitsubishi Mirage, I dunno how someone BBW would fit in that thing.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

kirbysuperstar posted:

I saw BBWLUV once. It was a Mitsubishi Mirage, I dunno how someone BBW would fit in that thing.

You misunderstood

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

oh god is it another loving antivax rally agan

yup, dude yelling gently caress Da*car revs up and they speed down the street*

Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Nov 20, 2021

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010

Periphery posted:

Imo Dan's and Labor's popularity was built on actually doing things unlike the Libs who were in power for ages and did loving nothing. So a combination of Libs being useless and Labor being useful. I don't see that changing anytime soon so it'll probably take some bullshit scandal to get rid of Labor in Vic.

Lol NSW is pretty much this just reversed

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

It's not fair to say Labor were in power in NSW for ages and did nothing. They did corruption.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
https://twitter.com/AdemSomyurek/status/1461932863671062528?s=20

lol, ah yes, the idea of a fascist Muslim, Albanian, Greek, or Turk is truly unheard of

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

Some very based turks clearly, just in time for thanksgiving

Hoopy Frood
May 1, 2008

The Age claimed 10,000 actually but sure, what's an extra 0 at the end of the day?

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
greeks are just christian turks so w/e

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-20/tasmania-liberal-labor-new-pokies-deal/100635294

Those Poker Machines are just pure-distilled capitalism without the slightest poo poo for anything other than siphoning money out of the vulnerable. gently caress both sides of politics, but especially gently caress Labor for being nothing but a token opposition in an increasingly corrupt system.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*we the people☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*

https://twitter.com/theluckylance/status/1462224280054165509

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*we the people☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*

https://twitter.com/theluckylance/status/1462224280054165509

wow, australian gammon

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
In an extremely tithin voice

Nay much wee a bit er

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

gammette

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

The two fringe wierdos I know who have picked up on the "Dictator Dan" stuff have both boasted about never voting before.

It makes u think

TheLoneAmigo
Jan 3, 2013

SecretOfSteel posted:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-20/tasmania-liberal-labor-new-pokies-deal/100635294

Those Poker Machines are just pure-distilled capitalism without the slightest poo poo for anything other than siphoning money out of the vulnerable. gently caress both sides of politics, but especially gently caress Labor for being nothing but a token opposition in an increasingly corrupt system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Tasmanian_state_election

Tasmanian Labor are the only political party in the country to have actually given getting rid of the pokies a go.

They led at the polls going into the election, and then got bumrushed by the clubs industry.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...
New election strategy: Don't talk about getting rid of the pokies and then just do it when you get in government.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

Periphery posted:

New election strategy: Don't talk about getting rid of the pokies and then just do it when you get in government.

I wonder about this strategy. Don't campaign on anything that will make you a target, then just do it and then talk up the actual, realised benefits for a few years till the next election. Pretty sure this works for bad policies so maybe give it a shot for good ones. Maybe they do this already I dunno

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

EoinCannon posted:

I wonder about this strategy. Don't campaign on anything that will make you a target, then just do it and then talk up the actual, realised benefits for a few years till the next election. Pretty sure this works for bad policies so maybe give it a shot for good ones. Maybe they do this already I dunno

“No, there’s no way that a GSTwill ever be part of our policy. Never ever. It’s dead. It was killed by the voters in the last election”.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

EoinCannon posted:

I wonder about this strategy. Don't campaign on anything that will make you a target, then just do it and then talk up the actual, realised benefits for a few years till the next election. Pretty sure this works for bad policies so maybe give it a shot for good ones. Maybe they do this already I dunno
See: Labor talking about getting rid of negative gearing and tax benefits for old people

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

TheLoneAmigo posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Tasmanian_state_election

Tasmanian Labor are the only political party in the country to have actually given getting rid of the pokies a go.

They led at the polls going into the election, and then got bumrushed by the clubs industry.

Wasn't there also a big sexual harrassment scandal with the Tasmanian Labor leader that hurt them politically?

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Animal Friend posted:

The two fringe wierdos I know who have picked up on the "Dictator Dan" stuff have both boasted about never voting before.

It makes u think

Discussions with people like this are always so strange.

"Are you vaccinated?"

"No, never"

"Because you care about freedom to choose?"

"Yes"

"You care about voting?"

"No, I never vote :smuggo:"

"Ok, do you care about democracy?"

"No, I don't trust the government"

"But democracy gives you the freedom to choose your government. You can choose someone you trust."

"I choose no one, then :smuggo:"

Etc, you get the idea.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

TheLoneAmigo posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Tasmanian_state_election

Tasmanian Labor are the only political party in the country to have actually given getting rid of the pokies a go.

They led at the polls going into the election, and then got bumrushed by the clubs industry.

WA has never had them outside the casino (though granted, that's different from getting rid of them once they're entrenched). I remember it being one of the most small but weirdly noticeable differences when I moved east.

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble
Nick Coatsworth came and gave us a talk at uni about doing MSF service and the talk started with a few minutes of him waxing poetic in the third person about the experience of living in an MSF compound in a violent developing country. Along the lines of "the young doctor listens, tensely, to the sound of gunfire a few blocks away". I haven't been at all surprised by his self-emphasising semi-chud-doctor act during the pandemic.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Animal Friend posted:

“No, there’s no way that a GSTwill ever be part of our policy. Never ever. It’s dead. It was killed by the voters in the last election”.

To be fair to Howard, he then took that to the 1998 election.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011



Clive Palmer and the LNP nutting

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Animal Friend posted:



Clive Palmer and the LNP nutting

Yet the PUP ads arerunning with the very explicit skogan "You cant trust the Liberals or Labor"

Still,you dont need to trust them to give them your preferences I suppose.

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

BrigadierSensible posted:

Yet the PUP ads arerunning with the very explicit skogan "You cant trust the Liberals or Labor"

Still,you dont need to trust them to give them your preferences I suppose.
They're doing the same thing they did last time, start out "both sides"ing to get street cred and then veer against the ALP.

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norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
Clive is so horrifically unpopular in WA this will be amazing to watch over here.

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