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Barudak
May 7, 2007

I mean for a duke reinvisioning its not that hard. Hes a badass who quotes movies and loves oprah, so like, just keep that. You just adjust his movie profile a little so its more recent and a slightly wider spread of films and make him a slightly more modern badass which means he doesnt chomp cigars but loves loving with enthusiastic consent.

Nothing about dukes core character traits are irredeemable*, but as a pastiche of culture has to change with it or get left behind.

*Duke Nukem Forever excluded

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100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Duke Nukem game with an upgraded set of stolen one-liners. Tone down the misogyny stuff and have Duke brag about how he "respects the chicks now."

Even though it's just a weak joke signifying nothing, the incels would still be pissed about Duke being an SJW.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

DoombatINC posted:

I still think you could have a Duke game that neither makes him an ironic punching bag nor sincerely treats his machismo as badass - I want me a sad Duke Nukem

That's just Max Payne 3

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
What even are the one liners for millennial duke? Quoting pokemon and internet memes?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Duke Nukem, absentee father who must struggle to connect with his young son and teach him what it really means to kick rear end & chew bubblegum

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Barudak posted:


Nothing about dukes core character traits are irredeemable*, but as a pastiche of culture has to change with it or get left behind.


I think the best course of action for a new Duke game would probably be to go the "Old Man Duke" route and set the next game in the far future where the world has become so peaceful and against violence that when the aliens return and attack everyone is completely helpless to defend themselves. So then it is up to an aging Duke to come out of retirement and save the world again because he's the only bad-rear end left alive.

So basically it would be Demolition Man but with aliens.


Edit: For bonus points Duke would be played by Kris Kristofferson.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Duke becomes greybearded sad dad who must take his Devastator out of retirement for One Last Job.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

site posted:

What even are the one liners for millennial duke? Quoting pokemon and internet memes?

I mean you could keep it to pretty much just one liners and have plenty of room to choose from in all the films that have come out since Duke 3d. No reason Duke can't enter a room full of angry aliens quipping "why so serious".

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



[extremely John St John voice] winter is coming

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



I just looked that guy up on wikipedia and the profile picture makes him seem like exactly the kind of person that would voice duke nukem. I feel greasy now.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Yeah I'm not sure how you can reboot Duke without losing the 90s testosterone poisoning. Then again, the Shadow Warrior reboots changed Lo-Wang from a dirty old racist man to a comicbook obsessed nerd, so it's possible.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


wafflemoose posted:

Yeah I'm not sure how you can reboot Duke without losing the 90s testosterone poisoning. Then again, the Shadow Warrior reboots changed Lo-Wang from a dirty old racist man to a comicbook obsessed nerd, so it's possible.

"Blow it out xir rear end"

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
isnt john cena playing duke now.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Vikar Jerome posted:

isnt john cena playing duke now.

#woke

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
Next Duke Nukem game is just Clint from LGR with a bleached blond flat-top doing his best impressions of John St. John doing Duke Nukem.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Hwurmp posted:

Duke Nukem, absentee father who must struggle to connect with his young son and teach him what it really means to kick rear end & chew bubblegum

Duke Nukem, absentee father who must confront the family court system and defeat the evil Judge Ellen Tao in the name of all fathers

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
Duke Nukem, who literally hates everybody; who spits on women and calls men "garbage trash"; who constantly refers to bullets as "the cure", and the only reason he's still trying to save the earth from alien scum is because "earth is my toilet".

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


I...

Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 22, 2019

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Duke Nukem, who literally hates everybody; who spits on women and calls men "garbage trash"; who constantly refers to bullets as "the cure", and the only reason he's still trying to save the earth from alien scum is because "earth is my toilet".

Pretty sure you're confusing Duke Nukem for the main character from Hatred.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Christ i forgot that game existed

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Lol, that owns.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Good lord I can taste the sleaze and grease from here. :barf:

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Assuming the caption is correct, I have to assume that's exactly the picture someone who wants their picture taken with the voice of Duke Nukem wants taken.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

ItBreathes posted:

Assuming the caption is correct, I have to assume that's exactly the picture someone who wants their picture taken with the voice of Duke Nukem wants taken.

Never let facts get in the way of a good outrage.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
If I was John St. John this would be the only position I'd allow fans to take my photo:

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Don't doxx me (im the squid monster)

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


I'm just enthralled by the sweaty, glistening man, not looking to get outraged.

Cat Mattress posted:

ZDCMP2 -- also extremely expansive, a UAC research center on a tropical island where the usual thing happened, definitely has tons of secrets

Black Griffon posted:

Hell yeah, that last one looks rad as hell. Thanks.

After playing it for an hour and feeling like I still I have tons left to explore, I can indeed confirm that it's rad as hell.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Vakal posted:

This is a pretty good breakdown of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL7HETVAiXY&t=2s

This was exactly what I was looking for thank you.

Looking back, DNF had until about 2003 to release that Unreal build and be relevant, heck maybe even good. I remember thinking the game still looked good in comparison and the interactivity promised was still unique.

By 2004 though you had Doom 3, Half Life 2, Far Cry, ect come out and there was no way Unreal-build DNF was going to compete.

By the time the 2008 trailer came out no one gave a gently caress. Duke’s brand of humor and gameplay was already wearing thin by then. And FPS gaming itself had moved on. This was the era of Team Fortress 2 (ironically enough) and Call of Duty and its clones.

So yea, no wonder when it was finally released in 2011 it flopped hard. I played maybe an hour of it and was left unimpressed and bored.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

site posted:

What even are the one liners for millennial duke? Quoting pokemon and internet memes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvkctfxyyGo

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
I feel like the Kim Justice DNF is pretty good too: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dfV4rI_gR1g

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Barudak posted:

I think rebooting him is easier than people say, as long as his gameplay is good and he spouts movie quotes without getting bogged down with weird attitudes to women hed be fine.

DN3D Duke wouldn't take much to rehabilitate, simply because that game never got all that mired in extremely off-putting skeeziness in the first place even while featuring a porno theater, a strip club, and a porn shop. Just removing the "aliens are only interested in abducting Babes for gross rapey reasons" concept would get you like 90% of the way there.

While it's easy to say he just needs to shoot good and say movie quotes, I think it's missing the reactionary angle. DN3D was in large part a product of its time, so I'd be curious to see how a younger generation could interpret the character and his world rather than just completely sweeping that whole aspect under the rug.

Also, controversial opinion, but while John St. John is a treasure I feel like he stopped being able to really nail Duke's voice a long time ago and now just sounds like John St. John doing his Duke Nukem impression, if that makes any sense. Or maybe my ears just need his lines to be compressed to hell and recorded on a cheap mic to sound right.

Glagha posted:

He had exactly one good game and two pretty alright ones and all the rest sucked. (spoilers those two are Duke Nukem 1 and 2 fuckin fight me)

There are people who don't like DN1 and 2????

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jul 22, 2019

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

I think this image might need some updating. The bottom "hype for retro indie fps savior" has (finally) already happpened with DUSK/Amid Evil.

E:


Arivia posted:

Also yes there is now a Blood Source Port

Yeah, this too.

chocolateTHUNDER fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 22, 2019

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause

gently caress yeah man that means Ion Fury discourse is next and I for one and here for it.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

I think this image might need some updating. The bottom "hype for retro indie fps savior" has (finally) already happpened with DUSK/Amid Evil.

Also yes there is now a Blood Source Port

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
I would like to be playing ion fury now instead of a month from now

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

John Murdoch posted:

Also, controversial opinion, but while John St. John is a treasure I feel like he stopped being able to really nail Duke's voice a long time ago and now just sounds like John St. John doing his Duke Nukem impression, if that makes any sense. Or maybe my ears just need his lines to be compressed to hell and recorded on a cheap mic to sound right.

Occasionally John St. John's actual Duke voice now has been mistaken for LGR's impression of Duke, so you might have something there.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



have there been any goon fps projects?

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jul 22, 2019

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Groovelord Neato posted:

have their been any goon fps projects?

Fallout: New Vegas

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