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rich evans made an ironic pornography it's on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJgLa3eKMYs
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Since when? not going to look it up, but I think Hugo Boss designed stuff for the SS but not the Wermacht grey uniform. So, the stuff Doogie Howser is wearing would definitely be a satire of Hugo Boss
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Feb 13, 2017 07:23
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Since when? Since always. Dude was a nazi and once the war broke out he had factories producing military uniforms, but didn't design them. Hugo Boss did design some nazi gauleiter uniforms (party officials, the guys in brown), but not arny or SS uniforms. There's a similar legend that Coco Chanel did the altwrations to the old Prussian uniforms that became the grey reichswehr abd wehrmacht uniforma.
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Feb 13, 2017 07:34
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LanceHunter posted:I'm kinda surprised that they didn't mention that one of the more surprising things about Starship Troopers, in retrospect, is that it came out in 1997 and not post-9/11. Like, there was definitely a time in the '00s where I knew people who had just seen Starship Troopers and were convinced it was this really sharp commentary on the US's over-reaction to 9/11 and the lead-up to the war in Iraq. Then I'd show them when it was released and their minds were blown. I am a Heinlein fanboy and I hate the movie. I also know that if they had changed the title to absolutely anything else I would have loved it. Heinlein was a lot of things but fascist really wasn't one of them later in his life, he was more into free love/weird sex to be honest. (see Door Into Summer, I Will Fear No Evil, Friday, Stranger in a Strange Land, Moon Is a Harsh Mistress). Roughnecks is awesome though.
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Feb 13, 2017 07:36
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You hate a movie just because of the title?
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Feb 13, 2017 07:48
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Isn't Heinlein a hard core "haw of my maw" libertarian? That was the vibe I got from "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" And lots of polyamory/polyandry fuckin'.
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Feb 13, 2017 07:50
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priznat posted:And lots of polyamory/polyandry fuckin'. looots of Sci Fi is this tho
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Feb 13, 2017 07:53
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Goa Tse-tung posted:looots of Sci Fi is this tho True that, out of "the big three" (Heinlein, Clarke and Asimov) only Asimov seemed to be pretty sex-less, story wise. The other two, gad drat.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:02
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I understand the satire part but it's pretty dumb to refuse to adapt the story of the book when you could literally slap another title on the movie and change nothing. Also lol at "Heinlein was a fascist!!!!!!" He was a book author. Call me when he murders 12 million people.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:06
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i watched it follows and it was definitely a jay movie. lots of weird teenage fuckin in that film.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:06
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I sort of liked the third Starship Troopers film. It didn't quite have a budget, but it was fun. It was a lot better than the second film, but I almost want to watch Troopers 2 again to see if it is more along the lines of being an underground revolutionary piece of propaganda compared to the state propaganda of the first film. If looked at in that way, it sort of casts a more negative view on the Federation's war, leadership, abilities and attitudes, puts some doubt in the audience as to the certainty of Federation authority, etc.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:08
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HIJK posted:I understand the satire part but it's pretty dumb to refuse to adapt the story of the book when you could literally slap another title on the movie and change nothing. also you are double wrong. 1: counterpoint, the shining. and 2: you don't know what fascist means, but hey join the very large club.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:09
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dreezy posted:i watched it follows and it was definitely a jay movie. lots of weird teenage fuckin in that film. Also monster mom fuckin It was ok but I didn't really get everyone getting all excited about it. I think it is more of a sign of how lovely somewhat intelligent horror movies have gotten that everyone held it up as so amazeballs. I like slow movies but I found it pretty boring. The trailer is great, though.
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dreezy posted:also you are double wrong. 1: counterpoint, the shining. and 2: you don't know what fascist means, but hey join the very large club. The Shining is a good movie, that doesn't make it a good adaptation. Starship Troopers the movie isn't a bad movie either but it is a bad adaptation. Heinlein having a boner for the military doesn't make him a fascist and it doesn't make him a follower of fascist philosophy or else you might as well call every military careerperson a fascist. The rest of his work doesn't hold up ~fascism~ as a philosophy either. The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is about a colony breaking away from a larger power, which is the story of a lot of present day countries. If I bothered to read the rest of his books I could probably find other examples. I don't even like Heinlein and you people irritate me.
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Feb 13, 2017 08:16
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priznat posted:Jake Busey was also great in Contact, a movie I love because I'm a huge cheeseball. Jake Busey was even better as Radioman from Spec Ops The Line.
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In the novel, didn't someone get executed or something for punching a superior officer because they literally didn't understand the difference between them taking a swing at a superior in the heat of the moment and another soldier beating the hell out of the superior during a sparring practice? edit: Apparently, the character could have been executed but had it changed to lashes and dishonorable discharge. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Feb 13, 2017 08:19
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dreezy posted:also you are double wrong. 1: counterpoint, the shining. and 2: you don't know what fascist means, but hey join the very large club. An advocate or follower of the political philosophy or system of fascism. Heinlein was a Democrat. Shining is a terrible adaptation but an okay movie. e:fb on both. JediTalentAgent posted:In the novel, didn't someone get executed or something for punching a superior officer because they literally didn't understand the difference between them taking a swing at a superior in the heat of the moment and another soldier beating the hell out of the superior during a sparring practice? Flogged and yes. There was a hanging, but that was a guy that went AWOL and raped and murdered a little girl. Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Feb 13, 2017 08:21
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First Heinlein book I got a look at was Friday, which should say enough about first impressions. Also thought Roughnecks was pretty decent for its time coming not too many years after things like ReBoot and Beast Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcfpzfPdx-U I also remember there being for some reason a parody of a GAP commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAgSIMVlrnk
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HIJK posted:Also lol at "Orwell was a communist!!!!!!" He was a book author. Call me when he takes over a farm. this is what you sound like. no, heinlein wasn't a fascist and Orwell wasn't a communist but not for the reason of being a book author. you for some reason completely ignore authorial intent and instead point out that he never committed a mass murder, which wouldn't be the defining trait of a fascist ideology anyway so idk poz my boy hole.
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dreezy posted:this is what you sound like. no, heinlein wasn't a fascist and Orwell wasn't a communist but not for the reason of being a book author. you for some reason completely ignore authorial intent and instead point out that he never committed a mass murder, which wouldn't be the defining trait of a fascist ideology anyway so idk poz my boy hole. You mad bro? Authorial intent matters plenty but Heinlein didn't pursue fascism with his authorial intent. He pursued free love and freedom from Christian moral authority because he found it so stifling, not that anyone here except the self professed fan has touched on it much. If you people can come up with textual examples supporting your points than go right ahead, it'll give us something fun to talk about. But if posters are going to pull "Heinlein was a fascist!" with no support than I'll take it as seriously as it deserves -- which is not at all. Come on now, we all took high school English right?
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HIJK posted:You mad bro? I want to make clear I don't think he was a fascist, I just think you are an idiot.
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dreezy posted:I want to make clear I don't think he was a fascist, I just think you are an idiot. 
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just started watching space cop for the first time, and hoy-boy, this is going to be a long 1h42min btw, what ever happened to Star Wars Betamax? I remember that he hated space cop with a passion. he also gave my favorite probation ever: someone in this thread said that Mike sucks, and he gave them a six hour with the reason listed as "Actually Mike is good". edt: jesus christ spacecop is terrible the only part i've laughed at in 40 minutes is when spacecop falls into the trashcan and yells "Oww, gently caress my balls!" listening to the commentary track, there's a part where Rich says that he was nervous to star in spacecop because "When you think about it, I have to carry the movie... while also being monotone and dull." Yes, that is exactly right, Rich. That is why this movie was a bad idea Trumps Baby Hands fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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LanceHunter posted:Heinlein was pretty terrible overall, and I have no idea what it is about his work that seems to draw a particular type of nerd who will defend it to the death. A lot of his less famous books have weird sex poo poo. And it gets played off as like "Of course our future society is much more advanced, so it's totally fine that we're forcing our 15-year-old adopted daughter into our group marriage." "Hey, since everyone lives to be 1,000 now, only an old-fashioned prude would refuse to gently caress someone just because she's his great-great-great-great-granddaughter. We're so evolved." PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Feb 13, 2017 09:18
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Holy poo poo the youtube comments on this one. "The movie didn't get the politics of the book! It's not fascism it's a really good political system actually because only people willing to comit violence or die for the state should have a say in society, read the book!" or "hey guys I'm a military worshiping crypto-fascist the movie is funny satire and I'm totally rolling with the punches but I think if you look closely the movie is actually a satire on people who didn't get how actually good the politics of the book are, maybe if only our brave troops got to vote we we'd have a better society right?"
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Feb 13, 2017 09:41
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I saw Sargon of Akkad in the comments and remembered that RLM was kinda chummy with him, which sucks. Oh gently caress, no. Gross. That can't be right. They're chummy with this oval office?
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PostNouveau posted:A lot of his less famous books have weird sex poo poo. And it gets played off as like "Of course our future society is much more advanced, so it's totally fine that we're forcing our 15-year-old adopted daughter into our group marriage." So is Heinlein better or worse in regards to sex and female characters than Philip K Dick?
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Feb 13, 2017 10:14
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joedevola posted:Oh gently caress, no. Gross. That can't be right. Couldn't you have found a summary of that rear end in a top hat made by someone who isn't hbomberguy?
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Feb 13, 2017 10:50
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joedevola posted:Oh gently caress, no. Gross. That can't be right. In the most strained internet way possible, but yes he's a fan of them and they follow him on twitter.
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Feb 13, 2017 10:55
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Ugh what did you make me click on who is this loving nerd
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Ugh what did you make me click on who is this loving nerd Which? The alt-right loser the video is about or the No Man's Sky apologist who made it?
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super sweet best pal posted:Which? The alt-right loser the video is about or the No Man's Sky apologist who made it? both I guess
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Feb 13, 2017 11:37
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it's like people forget that rlm makes fun of (in their words) sjws and (apparently) forced diversity in movies
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Feb 13, 2017 11:54
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I liked the mixed shower scene with tits and guns shooting. Probably yanked myself off a few times.
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Grevling posted:I liked the mixed shower scene with tits and guns shooting. Probably yanked myself off a few times. Probably.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I saw Sargon of Akkad in the comments and remembered that RLM was kinda chummy with him, which sucks. Aw no, RLM. Maybe that's why his lovely videos are always in my suggestions. Come to think of it though, they do seem to direct a little snark at craaazy feminists and SJWs now and then.
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Mordja posted:Whenever I see clips of Starship Troopers I'm always shocked at how well it holds up visually. The CGI has a certain verisimilitude that most big budget movies nowadays don't even try and aim for. CGI now is often colourful and flashy in a way that makes a film look and feel like a cartoon, while Troopers uses subtle, earthy tones for the bugs that land so much better for me. From a few pages ago, but one of the reasons that Starship Troopers holds up a lot better compared to stuff around the same time is that there were a limited number of visual effects studios available at the time, and a lot had been booked up at the time the movie was being made. So a lot of stuff that would have been made using ropey CGI for the era was done using traditional stuff like models, in particular all the stuff in space. I think the bugs were the main thing that CGI was used on. The other thing is that actual sets and design was used with the CGI, instead of "lol film everything in front of a greenscreen and plaster it with shiny CGI" LOOKIN' AT YOU GEORGE LUCAS
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The creature designs were also done by an offshoot of Stan Winston design students, so there is that as well. The only effect I don't think holds up that well is the scene where Rico takes out the tanker bug. Also lol at the heinlein fanboys crawling out of the woodwork to screech about the film. You guys want your direct adaptation you can sit around waiting for that reboot that is stuck in development hell. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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starkebn posted:not going to look it up, but I think Hugo Boss designed stuff for the SS but not the Wermacht grey uniform. So, the stuff Doogie Howser is wearing would definitely be a satire of Hugo Boss super sweet best pal posted:Couldn't you have found a summary of that rear end in a top hat made by someone who isn't hbomberguy?
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If you wanna see Jake Busey he plays Sex Machine in the from dusk till dawn show. You know, the guy played by Savini with a gun dick.
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