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CommieGIR posted:Diesel-Electric! C'mon! You could import a Volvo V60 with the D6 Twin Engine Geartronic but it's £50K+
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Recall notice will go out soon, they are going to do a retrofit kit. Idiots.
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BraveUlysses posted:Recall notice will go out soon, they are going to do a retrofit kit. Where are you getting this? Where exactly are they planning on putting the piss tank in my Golf?
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Sep 29, 2015 19:32
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I hope they get sued into a buyback. If I had one of these cars I would want to be done with it ASAP, gently caress any more work being done by VW. We already can't trust those cocksuckers, why trust them to make it right with a recall repair.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:35
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fknlo posted:Where are you getting this? http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/09/volkswagen-says-it-has-a-plan-to-fix-vehicles-embroiled-in-emissions-scandal/
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Sep 29, 2015 19:38
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BraveUlysses posted:http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/09/volkswagen-says-it-has-a-plan-to-fix-vehicles-embroiled-in-emissions-scandal/  They don't say what the fix is. This doesn't tell us anything more.Wamsutta posted:I hope they get sued into a buyback. If I had one of these cars I would want to be done with it ASAP, gently caress any more work being done by VW. We already can't trust those cocksuckers, why trust them to make it right with a recall repair. Ford had the largest recall in history for a defect that killed 98 people. The fix was adding a warning sticker. I sincerely doubt a buyback will happen.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:40
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Human life is cheap though.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:44
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The Guardian story makes it sound like it's a retrofit, not a Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Sep 29, 2015 19:48
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I wanted them to buy it back so I could justify a v8 now that I have a shorter commute.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:50
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CommieGIR posted:
what? Late Monday, Volkswagen Group’s new CEO, Matthias Müller, told a group of about 1,000 managers at Volkswagen headquarters that the company had a plan to refit vehicles involved in the company’s recent emissions scandal.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:57
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BraveUlysses posted:what? And then in the middle of the paragraph, it says they did not provide details on the retrofit.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:59
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CommieGIR posted:And then in the middle of the paragraph, it says they did not provide details on the retrofit. They're gonna retrofit a gas engine into it.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:01
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Kramdar posted:They're gonna retrofit a gas engine into it. That would be the ultimate troll.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:02
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meatpimp posted:That would be the ultimate troll. Hey, if they offer the TSI, I'd tell my dad to go for it.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:04
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Kramdar posted:They're gonna retrofit a gas engine into it. "We have also retrofitted the car's interiors with a rattling sound by loosening bolts at random to give our customers that true diesel feeling back." - VW Engineers
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Sep 29, 2015 20:09
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I Am Not Spor posted:"We have also retrofitted the car's interiors with a rattling sound by loosening bolts at random to give our customers that true diesel feeling back." You joke, but you actually can't tell its a diesel unless you get close.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:10
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CommieGIR posted:Hey, if they offer the TSI, I'd tell my dad to go for it. At this point, I'd be happy if they could just detach the interior and outer shell of my wife's TDI and retrofit it into the 2.5 model.
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Kramdar posted:At this point, I'd be happy if they could just detach the interior and outer shell of my wife's TDI and retrofit it into the 2.5 model. Yeah, I'll take the 2016's body and nothing else thank you VW e: Some guy mean mugged the hell out of me at a stop light today. Body shaming. I now know what it's like.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:23
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Although in MD they don't actually emissions test these..... So I might just Malone tune it....
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Sep 29, 2015 20:23
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There's no way they can do a retrofit without offering a buyback. They'd have to put the piss tank in the cargo area, and that's a deal breaker.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:24
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TTAC is speculating they would remove the existing fuel tank, and replace it with a smaller one, which would give room for a urea tank.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:25
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fknlo posted:There's no way they can do a retrofit without offering a buyback. They'd have to put the piss tank in the cargo area, and that's a deal breaker. They should have the piss cap retrofitted into the seats. But then again, my wife's seats are heated.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:26
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CommieGIR posted:
Is that for the pinto that they saved 3 cents per car on by not using a washer for the bumper bolt that punctured the tanks?
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veedubfreak posted:Is that for the pinto that they saved 3 cents per car on by not using a washer for the bumper bolt that punctured the tanks? I assumed it was for the Explorer telling the idiot owners to check the condition and pressure of their tires or it would roll over and kill them.
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Sep 29, 2015 21:28
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meatpimp posted:I assumed it was for the Explorer telling the idiot owners to check the condition and pressure of their tires or it would roll over and kill them. It was for the parking brake slipping http://www.autosafety.org/ford-transmissions-failure-hold-park
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Sep 29, 2015 22:17
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Kramdar posted:They should have the piss cap retrofitted into the seats. But then again, my wife's seats are heated. holy poo poo 
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Sep 29, 2015 22:20
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CommieGIR posted:It was for the parking brake slipping Haha, I didn't know about that one... awesome.
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Sep 29, 2015 22:34
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CommieGIR posted:Portland has to do something to address this! This broke a part of me.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:02
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It's super nice of Portland to take so many shitheads off the country's hands for us. Perhaps a tax-credit for the city is in order!
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Sep 29, 2015 23:09
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NPR just reported the retrofit is not for US vehicles
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Sep 29, 2015 23:23
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CommieGIR posted:It was for the parking brake slipping The early 80s were not a bright time in the world of consumer protection. That's also when the the CPSC had to give up on investigating Stab-lok breakers because Reagan cut the hell out of their budget. I wonder how many people that has killed over the years.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:58
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Withnail posted:NPR just reported the retrofit is not for US vehicles Interesting. So they can meet European standards but not U.S.?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Interesting. So they can meet European standards but not U.S.? They might have to take into consideration how litigious we are. They're already getting sued for lying and sued by used car dealerships, they probably don't want to get sued
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BraveUlysses posted:TTAC is speculating they would remove the existing fuel tank, and replace it with a smaller one, which would give room for a urea tank. Wasn't one of their primary selling points being able to drive 500 miles on a tank of gas? A smaller tank and compromised fuel economy would utterly wreck that, especially with regard to comparing diesel vs. hybrid. I Am Not Spor posted:They might have to take into consideration how litigious we are. They're already getting sued for lying and sued by used car dealerships, they probably don't want to get sued Or it may have something to do with Germany threatening to ban the affected cars from their roads unless a solution was devised within the next few days.
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Cockmaster posted:Wasn't one of their primary selling points being able to drive 500 miles on a tank of gas? A smaller tank and compromised fuel economy would utterly wreck that, especially with regard to comparing diesel vs. hybrid. Also the European nitrogen thing is less stringent than the USA one and also only 500k vehicles vs. the millions in Europe KakerMix fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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I believe European standards allow three times as much NOx as US. The Cruze solved the piss water tank by substituting the spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat, its not like you wanted to reuse your tire anyway.
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KakerMix posted:Also the European nitrogen thing is less stringent than the USA one and also only 500k vehicles vs. the millions in Europe In EURO 5, diesel is allowed to produce 3x as much NOx as gasoline, per distance. Gasoline may produce twice as much CO2. In EURO 6 (the current one, required for new cars since Sept 2015), diesel is allowed to produce only 1/3rd more NOx than gasoline, btw. Gasoline is still allowed to produce twice as much CO2. Wipfmetz fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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Australian Goon here. I'm currently shopping around for a small car, and the Golf is on my shortlist. There's no VW dealer in my town, so I've had a test drive booked in another city for a new months now (long before the scandal broke). I'm finally able to travel and do the test drive this Friday. I'm not not sure what models you guys get in the States, but it's a 92 TSI. That means it uses petrol (not "gas"  ) and is not subject to any of the malarkey going on. In this light, I feel that a TSI is still a good choice. However, there's been a lot of fear-mongering in our media lately , i.e. VW are dirty cheaters, don't buy a VW because you can't trust them, VW will go under soon so how will you get aftersale service???? (this one seems especially absurd) etc etc.I'm ashamed to admit that a small part of me can't help but be swayed by that overblown rhetoric. Buying a new car is a lot of money and my reptilian brain is skittish. Am I crazy for considering a new TSI? Please reassure or enlighten me. 
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Crescendo posted:Australian Goon here. Nope, but try to use the fear-mongering to negotiate a better price.
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Crescendo posted:Australian Goon here. VW is literally the largest auto maker by sales in the world right now, they're not going out of business. When you say 92 TSI do you mean a 1992 or is there some sort of silly naming you guys down in OZ have. I didn't think the TSI came about until a few years ago.
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