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Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

somepartsareme posted:

it is not at all unreasonable to think they could get the amount of actual content in an average job storyline into one quest without filler

Yeah most of them are actually really short and are only lengthened by the level locking.

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


queeb posted:

gonna be real interesting doing ddr in the middle of a boss fight

Hell's Kier is already a trial

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

somepartsareme posted:

it is not at all unreasonable to think they could get the amount of actual content in an average job storyline into one quest without filler

you're massively setting yourself up for disappointment

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

My only concern is that there's no way you can get four steps off in a single gcd without clipping for DNC, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Overwatch Porn posted:

you're massively setting yourself up for disappointment

i like to expect more than literally the bare minimum, what can i say

e: it wouldn't take more than like twice the length of the average job quest to tell a little job story about getting your cool level 80 ability

somepartsareme fucked around with this message at 01:41 on May 25, 2019

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


the most disappointing thing about the benchmark trailer is that the viera was the dancer when by all rights it should have been the hrothgar

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

somepartsareme posted:

i like to expect more than literally the bare minimum, what can i say

e: it wouldn't take more than like twice the length of the average job quest to tell a little job story about getting your cool level 80 ability

They're all post MSQ so they don't reward abilities. Thats like the one thing we do know about the job quests.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
35s on gnashing fang? what else does GBN do rotationally?

Gally
May 31, 2001

Come on!

Ciaphas posted:

tbh i still wanna keep trying to farm at least one dog before the event starts

don't have even one :(

Do Lakshmi, you can kill her so fast you don't get an addphase, so its 3 mins per fight, we got 5 dogs out of her in under an hour the other night. We only stopped then because everybody in the party had 5 dogs.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
they did it, those beautiful bastards finally killed the ALC guildmaster. I'll never have to talk to that smug rear end in a top hat again. Finally.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


I just realized that my main class (BRD) has had a substantial rework of some kind every expansion.

Here's hoping they get it 'right' this time.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Kwyndig posted:

I just realized that my main class (BRD) has had a substantial rework of some kind every expansion.

Here's hoping they get it 'right' this time.

It's already right

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


It's fine, but I wish they would stop tinkering with it.

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Zore posted:

They're all post MSQ so they don't reward abilities. Thats like the one thing we do know about the job quests.

i can understand not wanting to tie the unlock to the quest for gameplay reasons but i hope we get some sort of mention or explanation of things like summoning phoenix/fray/a robot or dragoon using a nidhogg move

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Bard looks like it will largely play the same, they said they just wanted to trim a bit of the fat off so you aren't spinning quite as many plates at once. They still have the song switching and all.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

UHD posted:

the most disappointing thing about the benchmark trailer is that the viera was the dancer when by all rights it should have been the hrothgar

In the fluff we've seen at events, gunbreaker is a Hrothgar innovation. Either they stole Garlean magitek and developed the class from there to fight back, or the gunblades were stolen from the Hrothgar originally.

Dancer is apparently from Thavnair. We've seen a few NPCs from there, but know almost nothing about it. Maybe there's a big viera population there.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
the level 80 quest for each job should be you rounding up all previous trainers and doing your rotation in front of them, then laughing at them and noogieing them while saying "can you do that, huh, can you?"

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


YoshiOfYellow posted:

Bard looks like it will largely play the same, they said they just wanted to trim a bit of the fat off so you aren't spinning quite as many plates at once. They still have the song switching and all.

I like spinning the plates!!!!!!!

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Arist posted:

I like spinning the plates!!!!!!!

You can still spin plates, you'll just spin less of them!!!

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Cythereal posted:

In the fluff we've seen at events, gunbreaker is a Hrothgar innovation. Either they stole Garlean magitek and developed the class from there to fight back, or the gunblades were stolen from the Hrothgar originally.

Dancer is apparently from Thavnair. We've seen a few NPCs from there, but know almost nothing about it. Maybe there's a big viera population there.

yeah but a dancing lionman would have been funnier

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

I should probably get around to play VI because I never got very far into it and so can't understand why people are so excited for all the new MCH gadgets. I think they're cool, but I preferred emphasis on the gunslinging :(

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I wonder if the new bard changes will mean I can stop using this macro on my G13 to hit bloodletter every second.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Leal posted:

I wonder if the new bard changes will mean I can stop using this macro on my G13 to hit bloodletter every second.

You disgust me

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Ibblebibble posted:

I should probably get around to play VI because I never got very far into it and so can't understand why people are so excited for all the new MCH gadgets. I think they're cool, but I preferred emphasis on the gunslinging :(
After getting sick kickflips this expac, you know the only way they could make the gunslinging more hardcore would be to go russian roulette.
You never want to go russian roulette.

Fancy gadgets are cool. In 6, Edgar was like fantasy medieval batman with them. Fantasy Medieval Batman is the way to go.

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

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Elentor posted:

Okay, I know you told me you work with Path Renderers, but I still gotta ask - what the hell is your rig?

I know at least half a dozen people across assorted discords who wanted to ask that but are too shy so I'll take one for the thread since I have no qualms with being a poor motherfucker, I want to know what sort of madness is getting a 19697 score on 3440x1440.

It's a 9900K and 2080 Ti with mild overclocks on both. Yes, I'm a huge nerd who makes poor life choices. It's not for work, although I did my best to convince myself that I'd totally write some VK_NVX code when I built the thing.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.
I think bard revamp was a pretty big misnomer, because you can watch what they do in the job preview and its the same poo poo.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

If it's not based on crit procs anymore it is substantially a different job, and they listed it alongside MCH and SMN

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place
they should probably get a PR person to proofread these powerpoints to avoid making people freak out over phrases like that and "pure healing"

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

somepartsareme posted:

they should probably get a PR person to proofread these powerpoints to avoid making people freak out over phrases like that and "pure healing"

They likely did. We only see the final result, not where it started from. Possible that the ambiguity's intentional, since it sparks discussion and interest (even if some of it is concern).

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I just had an interesting disconnect where the game decided client-side that I had infinite MP and Enochian. I just chain-casted Fire 4 for about a minute before the game finally caught up and I was disconnected (on the last boss of a dungeon).

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




FactsAreUseless posted:

I just had an interesting disconnect where the game decided client-side that I had infinite MP and Enochian. I just chain-casted Fire 4 for about a minute before the game finally caught up and I was disconnected (on the last boss of a dungeon).

Pretty sure the entire server died

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.
Yeah, everyone was kicked out of Ultros too, so must have been all of Primal.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Yapping Eevee posted:

Yeah, everyone was kicked out of Ultros too, so must have been all of Primal.
I'm on Crystal, so game-wide I guess.

funkmeister
Feb 20, 2010

About your father. If it's any help, he's in the ground now. Sure, it's bad news for him. But on the other hand, it's party time for all those little worms.
796 in queue!

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
This is hilarious, my brother started playing again and was at the bit where you have to fight the blue Au Ra. He was having issues cause he forgot a bunch of his class, but he finally beat her but failed on Y'shtola's bit. Meaning he had to fight the blue au ra again. So he goes through that, is about to finish Y'shtola's bit and disconnect.

Rip.

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

I was wondering why there was a 700 person queue when I tried logging in just now. Now it’s only 302!

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Ibblebibble posted:

I should probably get around to play VI because I never got very far into it and so can't understand why people are so excited for all the new MCH gadgets. I think they're cool, but I preferred emphasis on the gunslinging :(

Basically me and bard. I'm very sad we don't have a ranger class to fulfill our shootmans with arrows and or bullets needs.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I hit the msq for thornmarch and i need 52 i level or whatever how do I get there the easiest?

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Invalid Validation posted:

I hit the msq for thornmarch and i need 52 i level or whatever how do I get there the easiest?

Do your job quests; they give you a full set of i90 gear

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BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Invalid Validation posted:

I hit the msq for thornmarch and i need 52 i level or whatever how do I get there the easiest?

If you have enough Tomestones of Poetics on hand, you can trade those in for i120 gear at Mor Dhona. This will take you part way into HW before you have to get better gear.

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