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These Bernie slap fights are really stupid and boring especially when it's not even Bernouts starting them.
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if sanders had won the primary the media would be calling both sanders and trump crazy right now i'm a huge prick
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Oct 6, 2016 17:26
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Those dastardly democrats at it again. https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/784065902102929410
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Oct 6, 2016 17:27
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Pick posted:I would argue that Buchanan (Pat not James) had a legitimate effect on GHWB's bid for re-election, but for the most part who cares about failed primary candidates? Jimmy Carter would like a word with you.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:27
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Radish posted:These Bernie slap fights are really stupid and boring especially when it's not even Bernouts starting them. Who are these bernouts here anyway? It comes off like gloating at phantoms.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:27
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boner confessor posted:if sanders had won the primary the media would be calling both sanders and trump crazy right now i'm a huge prick 
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Oct 6, 2016 17:29
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Jimmy Carter would like a word with you. I'd like a word with Jimmy Carter, he's cool 
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Oct 6, 2016 17:30
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President Michael Bloomberg I feel unclean.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:30
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Pick posted:I'd like a word with Jimmy Carter, he's cool jimmy carter was cool and one of the best presidents we've had
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Oct 6, 2016 17:31
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Instant Sunrise posted:jimmy carter was cool and one of the best presidents we've had Carter is cool and a good person. He was a lovely president.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:32
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The Sanders Administration, Day 3: War and Capitalism still exist, twitter calls for the traitor's blood
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Oct 6, 2016 17:32
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Instant Sunrise posted:jimmy carter was cool and one of the best presidents we've had Carter got completely hosed over by a lot of things outside of his control, like the right wing spin machine that basically turned him into the worst president of the 20th century.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:32
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Would Bloomberg really have run if Sanders won? I assumed he was just bullshitting.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:32
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Pick posted:On the other hand, the most enthusiastic Hillary supporters I've met are old women. Like you take this lovely old lady who enjoys gardening and embroidery and you mention Hillary Clinton and suddenly it's all There was a story during the primaries that did extensive polling on women Clinton vs Sanders supporters with the overall conclusion that the more sexism a women experienced in their life the more enthusiastic they were about voting for Clinton so I'm not surprised by this at all.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:34
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Monaghan posted:Carter got completely hosed over by a lot of things outside of his control, like the right wing spin machine that basically turned him into the worst president of the 20th century. Carter is basically the OG "messianic figure comes in to cleanse the nation of lovely conservative president, unrealistic expectations causes nation to abandon him immediately and run back to a lovely conservative candidate."
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Oct 6, 2016 17:34
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Monaghan posted:Carter got completely hosed over by a lot of things outside of his control, like the right wing spin machine that basically turned him into the worst president of the 20th century. lol, no. carter was genuinely an ineffective president. some of it was outside of his control, but pissing off the democrats running the house and senate (and the party writ large) was a genuinely destructive choice
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Oct 6, 2016 17:34
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woke wedding drone posted:Who are these bernouts here anyway? It comes off like gloating at phantoms. Like the one guy here theorycrafting how Bernie would be beating Trump EVEN MORE I guess? All the rest are just Clinton voters now.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:35
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Monaghan posted:Carter got completely hosed over by a lot of things outside of his control, like the right wing spin machine that basically turned him into the worst president of the 20th century. Nobody would play ball with him, it's not his fault how it went.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:36
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Pick posted:Nobody would play ball with him, it's not his fault how it went. They wouldn't play ball with him because he virtually refused to work with them on anything. He pissed off the party literally from the moment he started running and then didn't moderate at that all when he got elected. Like, I talked about this in the primary but I don't think people really appreciate how big of a deal it was for Ted Kennedy to give Carter and incredibly robust challenge in '80.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:37
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Carter had issues working with Congress, but what really sunk him was telling Americans that their lifestyle was unsustainable and they had to make sacrifices. Americans don't like hearing that.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:38
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I have to give Carter some credit for being the most peaceable American President since the 19th Century.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:38
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Oct 6, 2016 17:38
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They wouldn't play ball with him because he virtually refused to work with them on anything. He pissed off the party literally from the moment he started running and then didn't moderate at that all when he got elected.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:39
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A Winner is Jew posted:https://twitter.com/NRA/status/783461188738973696 hell yeah
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Oct 6, 2016 17:39
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A Winner is Jew posted:There was a story during the primaries that did extensive polling on women Clinton vs Sanders supporters with the overall conclusion that the more sexism a women experienced in their life the more enthusiastic they were about voting for Clinton so I'm not surprised by this at all. A lot of younger women have sort of been convinced sexism is over, or they don't quite realize how serious/pervasive it is yet. I think part of it is that a lot of young people are still working lovely, minimum-wage jobs and they don't feel it's much different between the men and women there. Ten years down the line, when their male coworkers are managers and they're still manning the tills despite being more responsible and capable, they start to see a pattern. That's not a dimension that the cool, hip feminist discourse is focused on right now, but it's the sexism that grates on Democratic and Republican women alike, essentially as an axis independent of other political opinions.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:39
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They wouldn't play ball with him because he virtually refused to work with them on anything. He pissed off the party literally from the moment he started running and then didn't moderate at that all when he got elected. Can you (or someone else) explain to someone like me who has no idea of that time period?
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Oct 6, 2016 17:40
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A Winner is Jew posted:https://twitter.com/NRA/status/783461188738973696 Oh poo poo wow. See that's how you stand up to a gun lobby.  As to Carter, it's my understanding of him that he basically was like Obama but worse, coming in with relatively little knowledge of how poo poo was really gonna go down and how bad it really was from previous administrations. My understanding of post-1964 American history is really bad comparatively tho.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:41
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ImpAtom posted:Except white people are historically not prone to voting Democrat. They went 72 to 39 for Romney. Even if Sanders was the nominee there's no reason to assume white men would suddenly flock to him in droves or that he wouldn't suffer low favorabilities with them. Maybe not AS low as Clinton but the argument that any Democrat could suddenly win all the white votes against Trump (whose strongest base are white men) is silly. From a couple of pages ago, but your percentages are incorrect here, I think you might have been looking at the wrong column. http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/ For white voters: Romney 59%, Obama 39%. Still a big gap, of course.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:41
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Lightning Knight posted:Oh poo poo wow. See that's how you stand up to a gun lobby. But doggie fresh, liberals  
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Oct 6, 2016 17:42
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A Winner is Jew posted:https://twitter.com/NRA/status/783461188738973696 Tim Kaine owns. 
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Oct 6, 2016 17:43
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filthy regex posted:From a couple of pages ago, but your percentages are incorrect here, I think you might have been looking at the wrong column. I absolutely was, thanks for correcting me.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:43
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Our guns will be dicking bimbos if Hillary is elected.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:43
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Jimmy Carter boycotting the 1980 Olympics was disastrous from a PR angle, and I would say heavily influenced him not getting reelected.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:43
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Donnie gets BTFO by 6 year olds Still have like 10 pages to skim through , but yes. The non-zero chance that Donnie punches(with tiny tiny hands) a baby or child increases.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:44
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freckle posted:Our guns will be dicking bimbos if Hillary is elected. Pls don't doxx my porn folder or kinkshame me, tia
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Oct 6, 2016 17:46
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woke wedding drone posted:But doggie fresh, liberals does this guy think bill clinton's dick should be on a national registry?
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Oct 6, 2016 17:46
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Can you (or someone else) explain to someone like me who has no idea of that time period? Sitting presidents have rarely, if ever, faced much opposition from within their own party during re-election (for obvious reasons.) In 1980, Ted Kennedy was the scion of the Kennedy Political Legacy, and a huge figure within the party and congress. To put in perspective, it would be like if in 2012, seeing a weakness in Obama, Hillary ran against him again. Ted Kennedy challenging Carter was a big deal, and even though the race wasn't incredible close (51-38), it underscored the weakness of Carter going into the general -- and Kennedy's speech at the convention (which you should all watch) was even more damaging to Carter (though the killer for Carter was the failure of Operation Eagle Claw. That was all setup by a weak economy (not his fault, entirely) and his refusal to work with congressional leaders. Basically they resented Carter as an outsider (he was NOT the party's choice to run in '76) and he more or less kept party leaders out of power. Congress more or less told him to gently caress off, despite it being lead by Democrats and overrode him on vetoes constantly. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Oct 6, 2016 17:46
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As time goes by the Carter presidency becomes more and more grotesque and pathetic to me. He was a yokel lightweight and let Brzezinski push him around and primed us for the Reagan Revolution through his own ineptitude. gently caress President Carter. He's been a good post-president though.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:46
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Krispy Kareem posted:Obama's been building that hurricane his whole Presidency and it's finally ready. Bush must have taken his with him when he left Office.
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Pick posted:A lot of younger women have sort of been convinced sexism is over, or they don't quite realize how serious/pervasive it is yet. I think part of it is that a lot of young people are still working lovely, minimum-wage jobs and they don't feel it's much different between the men and women there. Ten years down the line, when their male coworkers are managers and they're still manning the tills despite being more responsible and capable, they start to see a pattern. That's not a dimension that the cool, hip feminist discourse is focused on right now, but it's the sexism that grates on Democratic and Republican women alike, essentially as an axis independent of other political opinions. but what about online interactions, though? imo if anything is convincing tweens/teens that sexism is real it's the internet/social media
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