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caberham posted:China is lawful when it comes to large commercial contracts and lawyers. Or at least on the surface of things. No one would expect it, and when a foreigner does something unexpected but not directly getting in the face of people with actual power everyone just wants to do whatever it takes to make it stop.
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caberham posted:China is lawful when it comes to large commercial contracts and lawyers. Or at least on the surface of things. Says the guy who likes to tell the story about how the federal police had to come beat up the local cops who were illegally detaining a major multinational's shipments on the orders of a scrap metal dealer pissed off about his kickbacks not arriving.
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goldboilermark posted:Ceciltron had a poo poo boss. Ceciltron told boss to gently caress off and ran away. Spoiler you can't do that in China and if you do keep running ceciltron was convinced to try to sue boss for release letter even though both broke contract but that doesn't matter as most contracts I've seen are written against the foreigner and if you break it you lose. Goons told ceciltron to just leave, one or two felt China was lawful and said sue but this was terribly bad advice Pretty much this. I doubted the Chinagoons, I was wrong. HEED MY CAUTIONARY TALE!
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So what AQI do you guys get out the masks? I assumed you'd be able to feel it when the air was bad from friends complaining, but I've never lived anywhere polluted before and my snot was black when I got home today despite never feeling a thing so apparently I can't tell. The internet seems to say 200 is definite mask time, any opinions?
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Grand Fromage posted:So what AQI do you guys get out the masks? I assumed you'd be able to feel it when the air was bad from friends complaining, but I've never lived anywhere polluted before and my snot was black when I got home today despite never feeling a thing so apparently I can't tell. The internet seems to say 200 is definite mask time, any opinions? 100, but I am perhaps a tad zealous in protecting my breathing apparatus from coal pollution.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:40
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Arglebargle III posted:Says the guy who likes to tell the story about how the federal police had to come beat up the local cops who were illegally detaining a major multinational's shipments on the orders of a scrap metal dealer pissed off about his kickbacks not arriving. That's local small time poo poo. I'm talking about large large SOE's and banks. The loans were bad but the books clean 
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Ceciltron posted:Pretty much this. I doubted the Chinagoons, I was wrong. HEED MY CAUTIONARY TALE! He's wrong that he didn't go all the way  It's ok, will host for you in HK, please tell us everything. Will your GF come over?
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I spoke to a man named Abe who dolled out advice while building shoddy furniture. "You're sitting in the chair wrong," he barked. Moments later the chair collapsed, and the young girl fell onto the streets of Mong Kok. "Told you," he said smugly as he stripped a screw and hammered in a lopsided nail. "The problem with people who aren't me," he said, "are they lack the perspective of a high-numbered sky palace floor. So when a angel opportunity comes a-knocking, or when precious advices are given, these people just stuff their fingers in their ears, and then blame me when things go wrong."
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caberham posted:He's wrong that he didn't go all the way Yep, GF will be with me, got all her passes and everything in order and got everything arranged. We're staying at the I'm willing to bring you something from here (Québec) if you there's anything special you miss about Canada (maple syrup? soap flavored gum?).
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Oct 24, 2014 19:03
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systran posted:I spoke to a man named Abe who dolled out advice while building shoddy furniture. "You're sitting in the chair wrong," he barked. Moments later the chair collapsed, and the young girl fell onto the streets of Mong Kok. More like fell onto his mong cock, amirite Abe? Ceciltron posted:I'm willing to bring you something from here (Québec) if you there's anything special you miss about Canada (maple syrup? soap flavored gum?). Bring some of that secessionist agitating, I hear it's in high demand in HK these days
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blinkyzero posted:Bring some of that secessionist agitating, I hear it's in high demand in HK these days I will bring a copy of "Les Nègres Blancs de l'Amérique", perhaps they will recognise in our second-class status their own plight.
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Arglebargle III posted:Says the guy who likes to tell the story about how the federal police had to come beat up the local cops who were illegally detaining a major multinational's shipments on the orders of a scrap metal dealer pissed off about his kickbacks not arriving. Yeah this actually illustrates his point that it's lawful for large corporations and lawyers. The feds came in and enforced the law here when some small time local guy was trying to be corrupt. Also China Law Blog guy says just this, that China's legal system is pretty functional and fair to his clients (foreign businesses operating in China). I think that guy knows more about it than any of us, considering the legal side of commercial contracts regarding foreign businesses has literally been his full time job for like 8 years or something.
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fart simpson posted:Yeah this actually illustrates his point that it's lawful for large corporations and lawyers. The feds came in and enforced the law here when some small time local guy was trying to be corrupt. Also China Law Blog guy says just this, that China's legal system is pretty functional and fair to his clients (foreign businesses operating in China). I think that guy knows more about it than any of us, considering the legal side of commercial contracts regarding foreign businesses has literally been his full time job for like 8 years or something. That's basically what my cousin says. He was of counsel with a firm in Shanghai that handled primarily international clients and he told me that most of the time the judges and the system in general tend to go for a pretty even-handed approach when settling, say, disputes between domestic companies and overseas partners.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:04
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Ocean Park!!! If you go to both Disneyland and Ocean Park, do Disney first because everyone says Ocean Park is better.
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Grand Fromage posted:So what AQI do you guys get out the masks? I assumed you'd be able to feel it when the air was bad from friends complaining, but I've never lived anywhere polluted before and my snot was black when I got home today despite never feeling a thing so apparently I can't tell. The internet seems to say 200 is definite mask time, any opinions? 170 about, less if the other pollution is really thick or smelly or whatever
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today from the 33rd floor of my office it looks like a white blanket outside, you literally can not see anything. 
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Arglebargle III posted:170 about, less if the other pollution is really thick or smelly or whatever i'd hope it is lower way out in boonieville where gf lives 
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fart simpson posted:Yeah this actually illustrates his point that it's lawful for large corporations and lawyers. The feds came in and enforced the law here when some small time local guy was trying to be corrupt. Also China Law Blog guy says just this, that China's legal system is pretty functional and fair to his clients (foreign businesses operating in China). I think that guy knows more about it than any of us, considering the legal side of commercial contracts regarding foreign businesses has literally been his full time job for like 8 years or something. Okay I was more thinking that in a lawful country the feds wouldn't have to get involved in something as basic as a shipment of metal but I take your point.
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systran posted:I spoke to a man named Abe who dolled out advice while building shoddy furniture. "You're sitting in the chair wrong," he barked. Moments later the chair collapsed, and the young girl fell onto the streets of Mong Kok. You have hurt the feelings of people who listen to NPR  9/10, it's Admiralty, not MongKok. Yeah we did make too many tables this one time without chairs And we picked up all the building materials from a nearby dump. We sanded everything down and the corners as well, and did make sure none of the chairs were uneven. But that was only when I was around  When I left, people were cutting corners and not sanding the corners  Arglebargle III posted:170 about, less if the other pollution is really thick or smelly or whatever I can deal with 170 or higher, it's the smell which gets to me. My recent trip in Beijing I stayed at the worse hanting all seasons. It was a basement room with shared bathroom and ultra thin walls. But I woke up coughing, gagging, and panicking thinking there has to be some small fire. Nope AQI just hit 330  Chengdu during winter was pretty bad, props to Argle teaching me how to put on a n95It
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peanut posted:Ocean Park!!! If you go to both Disneyland and Ocean Park, do Disney first because everyone says Ocean Park is better.  Peanut is crazy. Peanut lives deep in the mountains and the ramshackle hut of peanut hangs a tattered American flag
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caberham posted:I can deal with 170 or higher, it's the smell which gets to me. My recent trip in Beijing I stayed at the worse hanting all seasons. It was a basement room with shared bathroom and ultra thin walls. But I woke up coughing, gagging, and panicking thinking there has to be some small fire. I'm pretty sure that horrible gagging coal soot smell isn't the PM 2.5 but yeah it gets pretty bad. I'm glad I got air filters for my office and apartment. I'm ordering a new box of 50 n95 masks today in fact.
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caberham posted:I can deal with 170 or higher, it's the smell which gets to me. My recent trip in Beijing I stayed at the worse hanting all seasons. It was a basement room with shared bathroom and ultra thin walls. But I woke up coughing, gagging, and panicking thinking there has to be some small fire. I'm pretty sure that horrible gagging coal soot smell isn't the PM 2.5 but yeah it gets pretty bad. I haven't smelt that smell for a long time in Chengdu; I used to smell it all the time in Jinan. I'm glad I got air filters for my office and apartment. I'm ordering a new box of 50 n95 masks today in fact.
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Magna Kaser posted:i'd hope it is lower way out in boonieville where gf lives It does tend to be a bit cleaner out here, that is one of the very few good things about the horrible lovely suburbs. But I was out in Chengdu all day (since it took four loving hours to get home). That German place had good sausage, I want to try the schnitzel at the other one next time. Also how are there like three German restaurants within a block of each other? Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 05:28
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Post maps and addresses.
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Grand Fromage posted:Also how are there like three German restaurants within a block of each other? Kein Lebensraum! 
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The Pirate Bay is promoting the launch of the free VPN start-up FrootVPN. TF has an article on it here. I signed up just to dink around with it and take it for a test drive. It's pretty fast, stable and there isn't any DNS hijacking going on yet, but I still don't trust it enough to actually log into any accounts while connected to it. But it will make a good backup option for when HostVPN craps out on me (which is at least thrice a day). Just thought I'd mention it. edit: Maybe sign up to get in on the ground floor but don't actually use the service until it's been vetted? Woodsy Owl fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 07:25
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So I'm in HK from Thursday night and will be there all the following week. Probably gonna be bored during the weekdays so if anyone is free I'll buy a round of beers or whatever.
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Grand Fromage posted:So what AQI do you guys get out the masks? I assumed you'd be able to feel it when the air was bad from friends complaining, but I've never lived anywhere polluted before and my snot was black when I got home today despite never feeling a thing so apparently I can't tell. The internet seems to say 200 is definite mask time, any opinions? I used to do 200 and up because I couldn't wear a mask for 250 days out of the year.
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Omg Spring Airlines started a Takamatsu-Shanghai-Shenzhen route! Now if only Shenzhen airport offered free transit visas 
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peanut posted:Omg Spring Airlines started a Takamatsu-Shanghai-Shenzhen route! Aren't there multiple-entry year-long tourist visas? I've never had a tourist visa but the Manchurian-American (he insisted on that, hated being called Chinese, lolz) guy we knew who traveled to the mainland all the time for business told us once that's what he always went with. edit: I mean obviously nothing beats the free transit visa but that would still be pretty good for hopping around from ~~~WAPAN~~~
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Woodsy Owl posted:The Pirate Bay is promoting the launch of the free VPN start-up FrootVPN. TF has an article on it here. I signed up just to dink around with it and take it for a test drive. It's pretty fast, stable and there isn't any DNS hijacking going on yet, but I still don't trust it enough to actually log into any accounts while connected to it. But it will make a good backup option for when HostVPN craps out on me (which is at least thrice a day). Just thought I'd mention it. I ditched Host VPN, it seemed like it was an abandoned project. At work I use ExpressVPN and I was trying out VyprVPN for personal use. So far, expressVPN has been much better. Grand Fromage posted:So what AQI do you guys get out the masks? I assumed you'd be able to feel it when the air was bad from friends complaining, but I've never lived anywhere polluted before and my snot was black when I got home today despite never feeling a thing so apparently I can't tell. The internet seems to say 200 is definite mask time, any opinions? China has hosed up my sinuses. I try and wear a mask anytime it's above 200 which seems like more often than not these days. It's going to be a bad winter.
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Atopian: Are you in HK yet, and where are you staying?
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Has anyone used SmartAir filters? I need something in my apartment other than houseplants to clean the air. Kind of working on a tight budget, too. But I'll cough up the extra money if I have to.
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Ceciltron posted:Here's what I found out when I was there: It's almost as if everything I have told you guys about China for the last two years (pirates vs. missionaries, you have no legal recourse, employers can arbitrarily gently caress you so be nice, don't quibble over your contract it is meaningless) were true. The flip side of that is that if you work for people you trust, and who trust you, there's flexibility on both sides. You bend for them, they bend for you, sometimes you get lightly hosed but that's just China. In any case, I am looking for an English teacher or two. It needs to be someone smart, who knows a bit about world culture and international relations. Diploma and 1 year Chinese work experience required (I don't want newbs; nobody is going to drive you to the grocery store or help you buy train tickets, gotta do that yourself) but no Chinese language is ok. Job is in Luoyang, Henan - which is the good Henan (the bad one would be Zhengzhou, or YiMa, depending) a city of 2-4 million people. You would be teaching an international middle school class (grades 7-9) ostensibly English but also geography, model United Nations, cultural literacy, and preparing (at least some of) them to go to high school in the USA. In general it is a relaxed self-driven environment. Technically you are a consultant, not a teacher, and the company is paid in billable hours, so you'll need to be responsible for your classes, which cannot be canceled. You would be part of a team of three, so provided you are friendly and drama-free others will be able to cover for you in case of illness or temporary absence. Salary starts at 9-10k, normal amenities provided, residence permit, etc. It's a super chill job but nobody is going to babysit you. Luoyang is blowing up as a town - we have an awesome nightlife. It's Real China, too. I will likely reverse-discriminate and favor nonwhite candidates, as they don't get a fair shake in China and I think getting to know a person of color would contribute to the student experience. You must be an American, though, as it's billed as an American program. Also the school (not my program) is starting a Canadian high school class and is hiring real teachers who are actually qualified to teach real subjects like science or American history. These positions would pay more than 10k and people will actually babysit you, as there are designated laowai handlers in that program. I'm pretty sure teachers of any nationality can apply for this but a teaching diploma and/or graduate degree of some kind is required. PM me or email insuffleupagus (((((((at)))))))) gmail (((dot))) com bad day fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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What are hrs/week on that, both teaching and (unpaid, I know) expected prep/marking hours? I can't apply as I am not American, but I am interested in keeping an eye on the rest of the industry.
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Hello, everyone. I'm the guy who asked about studying abroad in Hong Kong a few months back. All my paperwork's finally been submitted, so with any luck, I should be arriving around January 5th. I remember being advised to join the WeChat group, before I left. Unfortunately, it seems that the QR code in the OP no longer works. Any way I can get in on that group?
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It comes out to ~20 hours a week. There are no unpaid hours, really. Every now and then people at the school talk about making us do office hours but we just don't and then people stop talking about it? The priorities of the company are to collect money and the school to have competent teachers who don't cause problems or complain. I find that so long as those two get done, everything else is so much meh. Which is one of the things I just love about China. I'm gonna have a hard time fitting into the work environment back home.
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