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vdate
Oct 25, 2010

Well played.

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The World Ends With 2B

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rainuwastaken posted:

Jeez, how many years ago was that?

Sometime in the early 90s, I think I remember those commercials in the Saturday morning cartoon block. Turns out the diploma mill, Westwood College, stuck around until the big for-profit schools lawsuits last year.

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Is this how Yoko Taro made Drakengard?

Would anyone really be surprised if the entire Drakengard development process consisted of Yoko Taro sending out androids to tear the innards out of other game developers and then smearing them on his computer?

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

AndwhatIseeisme posted:

Would anyone really be surprised if the entire Drakengard development process consisted of Yoko Taro sending out androids to tear the innards out of other game developers and then smearing them on his computer?
Replace "androids" with "hapless interns" and I can buy it.

ManSedan
May 7, 2006
Seats 4

Tunicate posted:

The World Ends With 2B

This is the crossover I never knew I needed. SOHCAHTOA.

mateo360
Mar 20, 2012

TOO MANY PEOPLE MERLOCK!
ONLY ONE DIJON!

The Dark Id posted:




Here’s the final cable we need. I’m kinda disappointed it isn’t an HDMI Cable. Or at the very least a Component Cable. What a pretender game dev machine... Anyway, allllll the goddamn way back we go...


I'm fairly certain that it would be a Component Cable unless there is some other 5 ended cable used to connect eletronics I am not aware of.

Solar Tornado
Aug 9, 2016

A true fool keeps on fighting, even when there is no more glory to be gained

Tunicate posted:

The World Ends With 2B

Ninesweeper

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Nice one!

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



Is that meant to be parsed as Nine Sweeper or Nines Weeper? Drakengard and all so it's probably somehow both.

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011
Meanwhile, in avant-garde music...

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode LXXXIV: Spread Love Throughout the World!



OK. Onward to fill our debilitating completionism streak. Today’s session begins quite close by from where we concluded the Wandering Couple’s business not long ago.




Music: Rays of Light (Quiet)




Today’s quest takes us to the sewer entrance leading to the Amusement Park zone. This sidequest was actually available to 2B back in Route A but we opted not to approach it. You’ll see why in a few moments. For now, let’s see what this clown machine is doing outside of its usual region.



Let me ask you something: Do you think the world is full of love?
<Er, it might be?>
Don’t you think we all need to express more happiness in our daily lives?
<I suppose?>
Exactly! In which case... You seem like just the person to help me make this world a better place!
<Sure, I guess.>
...Really? Do you believe in the dream of connecting the entire world with love?
<I do.>
I see, I see. Then perhaps I can believe in you. You see, there are many machines who detest fighting. As such, I have decided to gather them together in order to hold a parade. It will be a parade of love and friendship for all! However, as it turns out, there are many among us who frown upon such outspoken expressions of peace. Therefore, I’m hoping you will protect our parade in order to ensure the successful dispensation of its wonderful message.
<Agree to guard the parade.>
Thank you for your support! If you could keep my companions safe while we conduct the parade, I would be ever so happy! Now then... Let us show everyone the power of friendship!



Yep. It’s an escort mission... Unlike the last two back in Route A which were rather simple affairs, this one can be a big old pain in the dick! Especially, if it was taken when it was first available right after the Adam and Eve fight in the Mothership.


Music: Amusement Park (Vocal)




Five identical clown machines drop from a nearby building and line up for a parade. Our task is to keep at least one of these machines alive to the end of the parade. How far is the parade gonna go? Waaaaaaaaaaay too loving long and far is your answer!



We’re starting here, at the entrance to the Amusement Park adjacent sewers. Our end point is in front of the Resistance Camp a few blocks south. You know... before the whole sinkhole happened.



I personally think this quest spawning during Route A was a straight gently caress-up oversight. The reason we skipped this the first go around was that it spawns a pretty decent mob of enemies to thwart the parade of happiness. The trouble is we’re escorting fairly fragile fellows here and all of these enemies are Level 30-40. Which at this point is not a big deal at all, right?



You have to remember, this quest originally spawned in Route A following the events on the alien mothership. At that point, 2B was Level 13 making this quest literally impossible when it first spawns. For further references, the cut-off point for this quest she was Level 28. Eve, the final boss, was Level 30. We completed the Route A, having done all but like three sidequests, at Level 34. This escort mission is straight up not feasible as 2B without grinding to the point that the remainder of Route A and most of Route B would be mostly a joke.

NieR: Automata has some real difficult balance issues but this mission definitely takes the cake.





Spread love throughout the world! Spread love throughout the world! Spread love throughout the world! No more fighting! Live to have fun! Share in the happiness! No more fighting! Spread love throughout the world! Abandon all hatred! Live to have fun! Spread love throughout the world! Live to have fun! Live to have fun! All we need is love! Spread love throughout the world!

This repeats non-stop the entirety of this sidequest. This escort lasts for like ten minutes. I'll still be hearing this in my sleep tonight.



Another kinda tricky thing is the path of this parade: this jump. This is an awkward rear end jump. It’s just far enough to make double jump + dashing assuming you don’t know any unexplained advanced movement tech.





But god help you if you don’t have the height to make the (slightly higher) opposite side because 9S/2B sure isn’t gonna grab that rocky mess. And guess what happens if you fall down that pit? The mission auto-fails! No, I’ve definitely not done that both times I attempted this mission for real. No sir... That’d be ridiculous.





Thankfully, unlike that one child bot who dies and stays dead in that early escort mission (you monster), this muppet and his parade of dinguses just instantly respawn to try again. They’re gonna fill the world with love by shouting about it for a couple blocks, dammit!





Once we get past that pit, we’re not quite out of the woods yet. Indeed, it gets much harder to keep this band of nitwits going here on out. I managed to get them this far with 2B the first time I played the game and was like Level 25 or so.



Here, outside the Resistance Camp, there three waves of machines ready to crash the parade. The first is Small Bipeds mixed with some Enhanced versions for spice...



...then some Small Flyers roll in. Again, with Enhanced Models dealing extra damage to mess it up.



Finally, some Medium Bipeds roll in, again sporting Enhanced models for the ride. Pictured above is one that dropped from the sky and decided it was going to immediately vaporize one of the parade bots and hell if I could do anything about it.



I actually got pretty lucky, all things considered. The first time I did this mission to success, a Goliath Biped decided to roll in to see the parade too. No idea what triggered that. There were more casualties than a mission in Myth when that rolled in. But we don’t have to worry about that. The parade made it to its conclusion... mostly safely. RIP Parade Bot #4.


Music: Rays of Light (Quiet)




We managed to complete the parade without being annihilated. How wonderful! I think our joy really came across this time. We’ll soon be holding another parade elsewhere. I hope we can count on your support for that as well. I know this isn’t much of a reward, but please accept it.



Eh. Nothing here is particularly spectacular. Reset is a chip that has a % chance of auto-reviving 9S or 2B with a variable percentage of health. For instance, +3 is 15% chance of revival with 30% HP. Optimally... we don’t wanna die in the first place! I could see this being more useful on Hard and above but hell if we’ll be using it on Normal.

Anyway, there’s some additional dialog as we try to depart...



......
I’m sorry. I hope to see you again.



Neither of you are going to say anything? You know this poor robot is just going to end up suicidal/depressed or insane now. No, don’t you shrug at the camera Silent Protagonist 2B. Zero talked enough to earn that. You’re not pulling your conversational weight, lady.



While we have gotten our reward for Parade Escort already, the quest itself remains open. There’s not actually a follow-up quest. We just need to buzz off for a while. We could do the usual thing of just teleporting to another area to advance quest stages. But, you know what... While we’re doing quests we left unfulfilled in Route A...



...Perhaps it’s time we dropped in on an old friend. The newest malformation of Father Servo has been waiting for months for our return.



Such drive is admirable. Well then! Do you care to witness the glories of this latest modification?
<Witness the glories.>
The Father Servo you knew has passed from this life, my child. Behold his latest incarnation!


Music: Birth of a Wish




Time for the long awaited Round 3 against Father Servo. His newest incarnation is an upright quadruped. I don’t think that’s come up again outside that one pseudo mini-boss in the Forest Kingdom Castle.



Being basically an upright boxing horse, Father Servo’s new body doesn’t have the largest of move sets. Mostly, it’s just wide haymakers that are easily telegraphed and avoided. Well, at least for the player. 2B tends to take those on the jaw fairly often. She’s got a strong jaw like Raiden. It’s fine.



Servo’s primary attack in this form is just pulling a Sonic the Hedgehog and spin dashing at rapid speeds around the arena. That’s a touch harder to avoid on a 3D plane, as it turns out. I mean have you ever played the 3D Sonic games? It’s a goddamn mess to control a rapidly rolling body. Much less dodge one.



The main reason we avoided this fight in Route A was that he is a Level 40 enemy regardless of our level at the time. We can take him one-on-one fairly easily now. And it would have been doable back in Route A. It just would have taken for goddamn ever chipping away at him. Quadrupeds are extremely easy to stun. This boss fight can easily be won by just hanging back, equipping the Missile Pod and spamming it until he’s defeated. It’s probably one of the few fights where missiles are actually pretty useful.





Regardless, despite the long months of build-up the fight itself is unsatisfying and quickly over. It’s just like modern pay-per-view bouts. :v:


Music: Rays of Light (Vocal)




To business already? My my!
Figured I should get it over with and save us both some time.
You’re a clever one, aren’t you? Well, when the heavens offer succor, it is poor form to refuse. Father Servo requires a silver ore, a pristine screw, and a broken battery.
Hold on. That’s more stuff than last time!
ERROR. ERROR. BAD FILE OR PATHWAY. BZZZZZT.
Stop it! I know you’re not broken!
Let’s go already.



Holy poo poo! 2B, you can still speak? We were all starting to get worried there for a bit. Thought you were gonna pull a Rico Banderas on us the latter half of the game or something.

Anyway, we’ve already acquired all of this junk. Silver ore is a common drop around the City Ruins and Desert Zones. Pristine Screws are semi-rare drops from Goliath Bipeds. Broken batteries are drops from medium bipeds all over. Let’s just hand this junk over.



Thank you, my child. With these items, the flesh of Father Servo will be so, so, so, so, SO powerful!
Good. Because I’m going to beat you silly next time to make up for all your stupid errands.
Er, yes. Regardless, modifying one’s body is not a process accomplished quickly or without effort. So until your next visit, farewell!





...Wait, didn’t we just [b]give you[/i] a Broken Battery? Why are you giving us three back...? Whatever. That’s another stage of the Robo Dojo completed. We’ll be back another day to complete Father Servo’s training. There’s still a couple more stages to go.





However, in the meantime we did get an update on the Parade Escort and a marker back to where we received that quest. Let’s see how the parade of happiness is going.



I’m afraid I was simply no longer able to deal with it. Joy? Love? What is the point? Happiness wasn’t going to keep me from getting killed, now was it?
......
...Hmm? You wish to know where the rest of the paraders went? They took off on some kind of journey. “To bring joy to the ends of the earth!” was their cry, if I remember correctly. I lost contact with them once they reached the deep desert. I imagine they’re now dead by the side of some road. No doubt they were rambling on about love and happiness to the bitter end. What madness...



And uhh... that’s it. That’s the end of the quest. Congrats. We made a party machine into a nihilistic robot. Thaaaaat’s NieR: Automata! This is the lighthearted half of the game, by the way... Stay tuned for more!






Video: Episode 84 Highlight Reel






Amusement Park Machine Concept Art – Embrace nothingness in festive makeup.

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Sep 16, 2017

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


The Dark Id posted:

This is the lighthearted half of the game, by the way... Stay tuned for more!

:ohdear: This is one of the most ominous things I've ever read.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Kavak posted:

:ohdear: This is one of the most ominous things I've ever read.

First time in a Drakengard/Nier LP?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Gave up just because one parade didn't get him everything he wanted. Typical millennial machine.

OmegaCake
May 5, 2010

Let's say you and I go back to my room and jack in.

Glazius posted:

Gave up just because one parade didn't get him everything he wanted. Typical millennial machine.
'Why are Millenials killing the parade industry?'

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Kavak posted:

:ohdear: This is one of the most ominous things I've ever read.

Wait, have you still not played this game? This is more than enough of an appetizer to get the idea of whether you'll enjoy it or not. If you're still reading the LP but haven't played the game, you own it to yourself to play it.

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Here's the thing about the parade quest - it's an escort quest, it's tough, and it's initially offered before you're realistically able to do it. That said, I still love it, because it's more chance to listen to the Amusement Park theme. That's all I ask of life, really.

Zonko_T.M.
Jul 1, 2007

I'm not here to fuck spiders!


I love the music of Neir/D3/Neir Automata, but I do miss how weird and experimental the music for D1 was. The remixes for D3 of D1's music were cool, but the original stuff is just so out there. I'd like to see a few pieces in that style slip into these later games.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


SatansBestBuddy posted:

Wait, have you still not played this game? This is more than enough of an appetizer to get the idea of whether you'll enjoy it or not. If you're still reading the LP but haven't played the game, you own it to yourself to play it.

I'm a cheapskate and I like Id's LPs :shrug: I'm sure I'm not the only person here who hasn't played the game before.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Kavak posted:

I'm a cheapskate and I like Id's LPs :shrug: I'm sure I'm not the only person here who hasn't played the game before.

Wait. You haven't heard?

Trump used the hurricanes as cover to give himself emergency power. First order was that every adult was legally required to finish NieR: Automata.

You probably should finish it before the secret police find this post. The penalties are... harsh for the non-complaint.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

chiasaur11 posted:

Wait. You haven't heard?

Trump used the hurricanes as cover to give himself emergency power. First order was that every adult was legally required to finish NieR: Automata.

You probably should finish it before the secret police find this post. The penalties are... harsh for the non-complaint.

How do you know they're an adult? :colbert:

KamikazePotato
Jun 28, 2010
Drakengard 1's soundtrack is fantastic, and that it's not the best soundtrack in the series is a testament to how stupidly good the music of Yoko Taro games tend to be.

apocalypticCritic
Mar 19, 2014

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Wait, have you still not played this game? This is more than enough of an appetizer to get the idea of whether you'll enjoy it or not. If you're still reading the LP but haven't played the game, you own it to yourself to play it.

I haven't finished it yet. Mainly because my graphics card is in a slow motion state of exploding, so I can't really play anything on my computer. It is also making it quite difficult to do my game programming homework.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



I am a little surprised Emil isn't a float in the parade of fun. Wait, has he shown up on this route yet?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Jet Jaguar posted:

I am a little surprised Emil isn't a float in the parade of fun. Wait, has he shown up on this route yet?

We have yet to go into the forest kingdom so no.

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Sep 12, 2017

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012
College Slice
Everyone should have a listen of the highlight video. Those parade robots just. Will. Not. Shut. Up.

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011

KamikazePotato posted:

Drakengard 1's soundtrack is fantastic, and that it's not the best soundtrack in the series is a testament to how stupidly good the music of Yoko Taro games tend to be.

A whole lot of games have "good" music in the sense that it is nice to listen to and makes for epic-seeming battles, but it seems to me that only very few have yet really used music in a more meaningful way. In that regard, a good comparison to Drakengard is probably Yume Nikki, also a game that was literally a decade ahead of its time.

That said, I'm continually amazed by the shift in sentiments regarding just about every aspect of Drakengard 1 (except the insanity) that can be witnessed in TDI's LP threads since then. By now it's pretty easy to forget that at the time, the game was universally considered absolutely horrible, especially the music. I wonder how much of this shift was caused by the fact that the game TDI played immediately after Drakengard 1 was Limbo of the Lost, which makes pretty much anything look like a masterpiece in comparison :v:

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
Well, at least the nihilistic bot seems to have a sense of self-preservation rather than being suicidal. That's good right?

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Yeah, that parade is a right fucker of a quest. I actually tried it three separate times during Route A, because I somehow became convinced that there must be some trick or gimmick to it that'd down-level the enemies or something. After all, it was offered to me so early, clearly they wouldn't expect me to just somehow brute-force fight my way through it, right? :downs:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

I can't help but imagine some lingering ghost of Cavia snuck in to make this quest available in Route A. If it also removed the reward, then this would've been the perfect trolledbycavia.jpeg.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!

HellCopter posted:

Everyone should have a listen of the highlight video. Those parade robots just. Will. Not. Shut. Up.

It's true, and incredibly grating. I put my headphones on for that part so I wouldn't bother anyone, but I ended up throwing them off halfway through the quest.

Exercu
Dec 7, 2009

EAT WELL, SLEEP WELL, SHIT WELL! THERE'S YOUR ANSWER!!

Carpator Diei posted:

A whole lot of games have "good" music in the sense that it is nice to listen to and makes for epic-seeming battles, but it seems to me that only very few have yet really used music in a more meaningful way. In that regard, a good comparison to Drakengard is probably Yume Nikki, also a game that was literally a decade ahead of its time.

That said, I'm continually amazed by the shift in sentiments regarding just about every aspect of Drakengard 1 (except the insanity) that can be witnessed in TDI's LP threads since then. By now it's pretty easy to forget that at the time, the game was universally considered absolutely horrible, especially the music. I wonder how much of this shift was caused by the fact that the game TDI played immediately after Drakengard 1 was Limbo of the Lost, which makes pretty much anything look like a masterpiece in comparison :v:

I think most of the turnaround on it came around the time of the sockpuppet interview with Yoko Taro where it's made very clear that Caim and the others are a take on what kind of person would mercilessly kill hundreds and thousands of enemies, and not just part of a "RPG protagonist, but darker and edgier" trend. Drakengard is still completely rancid to play, but all the story elements where you're like "what the gently caress is this guy even doing and why?" and "why is the game kicking me in the dick for playing even more???" (because now you're killing extra enemies and expecting a reward).

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Add my name to the pile of people who bought this game because of this thread.

Looking back at the first few parts it amuses me that Darkid's first death was the same as my death. (Allthough in my instance I was stupidly trying to conserve healing items)

DeafNote fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 12, 2017

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
I died on the twin excavator fight in the prologue and had to start all over. Thanks Yoko Taro

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Checks out.

https://twitter.com/XEECEEVEVO/status/907671628640698368

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.




:golfclap:

Supposedly they also plan to sell the X at about $1.000 because they want to follow the Games Workshop sales model of "sell item at a hilariously inflated price to a very niche target audience that has more money than sense, then wonder why we're slowly suffocating due to a lack of new customers"

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





I was going to mock the Apple bandwagon, then I realized as a man with thousands of points of Necrons on my dresser I need to shut my mouth. Ouch.

Only tried the parade once (on route A), died, then decided to never do it again.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.


Once again their brand gets derailed by Android.

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Zomborgon posted:

Once again their brand gets derailed by Android.

:golfclap:

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