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blinkyzero posted:meteoric rise of automobile ownership in China
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simplefish posted:Delishers irony How is it ironic? 
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danse macabre posted:Anybody have recommendations for hotels in Chongqing? The mains things that I am looking for are convenient location and a nice bar to study in. Uhm what
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Nov 2, 2014 13:26
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goldboilermark posted:Uhm what I figure it's the "bar to study in" part that's confusing you. I will be in china to study Mandarin and going to Chongqing afterwards. I would like to have a place to study outside of my room (and I know nobody in chongqing), so I figure a hotel bar would work.
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Grand Fromage posted:Hong Kong is an absurdly well planned and easy to navigate city by Asian standards. Tokyo is the only city that's made me lose my poo poo about the tenth time I went into a subway station to find out that it was a different company than the ticket I had and also this wasn't the correct station, I needed to go to the other identically named one across the street that isn't connected and Seriously, gently caress Tokyo. Great tourist attractions, but beyond that anywhere else in Japan is better, as are most cities I've visited in China. The only chinese cities i wouldn't rather be in are wuwei and hefei.
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Nov 2, 2014 16:56
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Well that I wouldn't agree with, I love Tokyo. But gently caress the privatization of the Tokyo subway.
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Goooooooon meet hk success! It's loving ceciltron week. He's a pretty awesome dude
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If you can't manage the Tokyo subway there is something wrong with you. I'm sorry we are a large city instead of some 3-line podunk. It's not perfect but it's really not hard to manage and I don't even know how GF managed to buy tickets to the wrong line?
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Nov 2, 2014 18:16
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I'm assuming he is confusing the Tokyo Subway with JR Lines and Keio Lines and Keikyu Lines and Toei Lines and any of the 100 billion other rolling stock locomotive trains that you can take around the Tokyo metro area that aren't called Tokyo Subway but appear to function as mass transit railways.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:19
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Bloodnose posted:I'm assuming he is confusing the Tokyo Subway with JR Lines and Keio Lines and Keikyu Lines and Toei Lines and any of the 100 billion other rolling stock locomotive trains that you can take around the Tokyo metro area that aren't called Tokyo Subway but appear to function as mass transit railways. Yeah, something you don't have to worry about in most other mass transit systems, even in Japan. It does remind me of one thing that pissed me off in Beijing WRT some of the older transfer stations: having multiple exits with the same letter. IIRC, Chongwenmen has multiple "c" exits. Naturally that's where my friend wanted to meet.
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caberham posted:Goooooooon meet hk success! It's loving ceciltron week.  good times had by all .
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blinkyzero posted:You're going to have to explain why you thought this. I was under the impression that American cities and towns were organised on some sort of sensible grid system, although from your reaction I'm guessing I was mistaken.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:26
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Atopian posted:I was under the impression that American cities and towns were organised on some sort of sensible grid system, although from your reaction I'm guessing I was mistaken. lol someone's never been to Boston edit: in seriousness though, some are neatly planned, but older cities are a clusterfuck. No different than the rest of the world.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:36
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Atopian posted:I was under the impression that American cities and towns were organised on some sort of sensible grid system, although from your reaction I'm guessing I was mistaken. Yeah, Manhattan and a lot of the west coast cities built mostly after cars became a thing.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:48
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Utah has the griddiest streets. California and the rest of the country are full of cul-de-sacs and tree-lined avenues but the trees cover the street signs. In my area, you can tell when cross into a posh city because the sidewalks suddenly disappear (walking is for dogs.)
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LimburgLimbo posted:If you can't manage the Tokyo subway there is something wrong with you. I'm sorry we are a large city instead of some 3-line podunk. It's not perfect but it's really not hard to manage and I don't even know how GF managed to buy tickets to the wrong line? It's pretty easy? The same machines sell tickets to different lines from different companies and don't indicate which is which, at least in English. I'm sure if you lived there you'd get used to it but it is a total clusterfuck for a tourist. This was one area Korea really shined, you get your RFID dongle thing and it works on every subway, bus, and most taxis in the entire country.
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Nov 3, 2014 01:11
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My old roommate and I somehow got stuck in the Seoul metro. Meaning we somehow changed and ran out of money and actually couldn't leave. We couldn't explain this to a worker so we just hopped the little gate thing. He yelled at us but we just walked away. How does someone design a tube where you can get stuck inside it endlessly forever? I was not going to spend my holiday in Seoul riding the tube for a week.
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Nov 3, 2014 02:50
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Maybe it was a card reading error of some sort? Take your card to the attendant and have them fix things up? The attendant could have stopped you and fined you for gate jumping
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Nov 3, 2014 02:52
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peanut posted:In my area, you can tell when cross into a posh city because the sidewalks suddenly disappear (walking is for dogs.) Ouch. Why does local government allow that sort of thing?
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Nov 3, 2014 03:52
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goldboilermark posted:I was not going to spend my holiday in Seoul riding the tube for a week. Okay, seriously, you're doing this on purpose now, right?
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Nov 3, 2014 04:02
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Atopian posted:Ouch. Why does local government allow that sort of thing? Allow?
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OK, one thing's been bothering me for two years. The first time my girlfriend and I went to Singapore, we each got a bus/subway card with the same amount of money on it and went everywhere together, boarding and exiting every bus and subway turnstile within 5 seconds of each other. But at the end of the second day I noticed her card had 10 cents more than mine. What is the mechanism that allowed that to happen? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Nov 3, 2014 04:18
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fart simpson posted:OK, one thing's been bothering me for two years. The first time my girlfriend and I went to Singapore, we each got a bus/subway card with the same amount of money on it and went everywhere together, boarding and exiting every bus and subway turnstile within 5 seconds of each other. But at the end of the second day I noticed her card had 10 cents more than mine. What is the mechanism that allowed that to happen? Thanks in advance for any advice. 
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Nov 3, 2014 04:36
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Chengdu is trying to do a really standardized/unified system. Right now the Tianfu Tong card works for subway, buses, vending machines around town and your gas bill. Word is they are going to expand it to taxis if they can and more services, but water is complicated with it's own system of IC cards here and electricity is also handled about 14 different ways so those are unlikely to get it.
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Nov 3, 2014 04:46
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Aero737 posted:Okay, seriously, you're doing this on purpose now, right? lol no but I do find the continuous fascination people here have with my daily vocabulary entertaining I find it interesting people I associate with IRL never mention a thing but this is something people here bring up time and again. I mean I know why people do it but don't care lol
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Magna Kaser posted:Chengdu is trying to do a really standardized/unified system. Right now the Tianfu Tong card works for subway, buses, vending machines around town and your gas bill. Word is they are going to expand it to taxis if they can and more services, but water is complicated with it's own system of IC cards here and electricity is also handled about 14 different ways so those are unlikely to get it. Beijing has had this in place for a while now, but the card never gets used outside of buses and subways. Taxi's have them, but every time I've asked, the driver says it is broken or something. It's also a pain to add money to your card if you don't regularly take the subway (there are very few places around Beijing to top up your card). I think Shenzhen recently implemented the same thing, but they said if a taxi driver refuses to let you scan your card, then your ride is free.
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fart simpson posted:OK, one thing's been bothering me for two years. The first time my girlfriend and I went to Singapore, we each got a bus/subway card with the same amount of money on it and went everywhere together, boarding and exiting every bus and subway turnstile within 5 seconds of each other. But at the end of the second day I noticed her card had 10 cents more than mine. What is the mechanism that allowed that to happen? Thanks in advance for any advice. green hat spotted
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Nov 3, 2014 05:29
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Aero737 posted:Beijing has had this in place for a while now, but the card never gets used outside of buses and subways. Taxi's have them, but every time I've asked, the driver says it is broken or something. It's also a pain to add money to your card if you don't regularly take the subway (there are very few places around Beijing to top up your card). In Chengdu you can add money at any subway, at several small offices around town, and at a big convenience store chain called Hong Qi which is super prolific here. I also just passed a vending machine that took them outside of the subway which made me  a bit.
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Nov 3, 2014 05:49
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goldboilermark posted:lol no but I do find the continuous fascination people here have with my daily vocabulary entertaining My British coworkers always refer to the subway here as the metro instead of the tube so it was extra jarring for me. But, if you could start incorporating some cockney rhyming slang it'd be much appreciated.
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gbm can you start referring to your wife as "me missus"
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Atopian posted:Ouch. Why does local government allow that sort of thing? Because any homeowner's association that hates poor people enough is allowed to incorporate in the US, and they'll make their rules as crazy as they like.
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LentThem posted:My British coworkers always refer to the subway here as the metro instead of the tube so it was extra jarring for me. Yeah I don't think anyone ever refers to any subway system as "the tube" except for the very specific London Underground, which is what makes it look especially like a europhilic affectation.
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Bloodnose posted:Yeah I don't think anyone ever refers to any subway system as "the tube" except for the very specific London Underground, which is what makes it look especially like a europhilic affectation. I have a Chinese coworker that refers to all subway systems as "the tube." You're wrong.
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Nov 3, 2014 10:10
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i refer to the internet as the tube
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Nov 3, 2014 10:13
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fart simpson posted:I have a Chinese coworker that refers to all subway systems as "the tube." You're wrong. He watches too much British television or is an Anglophile
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Nov 3, 2014 10:14
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Jeoh posted:i refer to the internet as the tube i refer my long cylindrical poops as the tube
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I don't even know why I typed it but I'm glad it has generated so much discussion lol I'll try to not call it that in the future!
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Aero737 posted:Beijing has had this in place for a while now, but the card never gets used outside of buses and subways. Taxi's have them, but every time I've asked, the driver says it is broken or something. It's also a pain to add money to your card if you don't regularly take the subway (there are very few places around Beijing to top up your card). Shanghai's had it for a while. Works on metro, bus, taxi, maglev and ferry without a hitch. Also apparently on toll roads, car parks and petrol stations but I've not tried it yet. You can also top it up at convenience stores. Oh and if your phone has NFC and Alipay you can tap it to your phone and see the balance, but not add money yet.
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In Shenzhen, if your phone has NFC, you can somehow use your phone instead of the 深圳通 card itself.
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Glasgow has the best Subway, its just one circle with like 14 stops. Cause we aint that smart. Senzhen MTR & HK MTR are fairly amazing and so easy to use. Not sure the Tong card can be used as widely as an octopus card in HK. Bus and metro not used it for anything else though. WIsh someone could sort out a decent bus map. I dont think I have ever seen a good one. Google doesnt let you sort individual bus routes in China yet 
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