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I'll be perfectly honest that I think that it's kind of weak sauce that there are these pet type items for armies that have Headstrong or Elite baked into their units, and they seem incredibly good on paper, but with Kingdoms of Men I'm doomed to +3" on Inspiring and no pets. It's a demihuman conspiracy, I tells ya! 
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I'd like to be able to buy +3" inspiring.
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Apr 11, 2016 20:42
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You know what's inspiring? A house cat treating that unit of Abyssal Berserkers like so many D&D commoners. To shreds, you say...
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Apr 11, 2016 20:46
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My local guy figures about $30CDN for an MDF set and $45CDN for an Acrylic set of those tokens. Not too bad consider the amount of laser time for all the raster engraving.
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Apr 11, 2016 20:52
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Warpath stuff has been lookin' good, and this khaki/red paint scheme is so much better than the awful brown-green babyshit scheme they used for the Forge Fathers during the Kickstarter.  vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv It's, uh... not mine. But yeah it's purdy nonetheless. Drone fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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Apr 12, 2016 17:26
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'ats a nice lookin' tank there Drone
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Apr 12, 2016 17:39
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Just to check, but Mantic's sci fi range is A: Currently all restic, B: Not for sale, and C: Will be coming back for sale in plastic in a few months?
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Apr 12, 2016 19:10
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spectralent posted:Just to check, but Mantic's sci fi range is A: Currently all restic, B: Not for sale, and C: Will be coming back for sale in plastic in a few months? True, with the exception of Enforcers, Enforcer Peacekeepers, and Forge Guard, which are already in hard plastic, and a few rare resin pieces. Also, some existing things will remain in restic, such as walkers and gun tracks, metal, such as a few heroes and some conversion kits, and a number of new low run types of vehicles, characters, and monsters will be produced in the same material as Warth of Kings minis, such as the Veermyn nightmares, and Plague Aberrations.
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Apr 12, 2016 19:22
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NTRabbit posted:True, with the exception of Enforcers, Enforcer Peacekeepers, and Forge Guard, which are already in hard plastic, and a few rare resin pieces. Also, some existing things will remain in restic, such as walkers and gun tracks, metal, such as a few heroes and some conversion kits, and a number of new low run types of vehicles, characters, and monsters will be produced in the same material as Warth of Kings minis, such as the Veermyn nightmares, and Plague Aberrations. Which enforcers are already plastic, and what's the Wrath of Kings material? (It's not bonesium is it?  )
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Apr 12, 2016 19:26
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It's not as bad as Bonesium but it's still somewhat soft. It's good for bigger models since they can be thicker but human sized it tends to lose detail and warp a bit. Has anyone gotten their replacement pieces from Dungeon Saga? I finally got a response from about a month ago that I will be notified when it ships but nothing since.
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Apr 12, 2016 19:29
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I'd be less concerned about softness and more concerned about bonesium's aggressive dislike of paint.
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Apr 12, 2016 19:32
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spectralent posted:Which enforcers are already plastic, and what's the Wrath of Kings material? (It's not bonesium is it? This is Wrath of Kings plastic   All Enforcer Peacekeepers are hard plastic, bar a single Enforcer Captain who is in metal, and a similar one in restic. This set of six Enforcers are the ones in hard plastic, you can tell because they come with the riot shield option (the riot shields and the medic are restic), the older restic pack is just 5 guys with a heavy weapon, and the specialists pack is restic as well. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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Apr 12, 2016 19:35
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Threw together a new 2000 point elf list. Thoughts?code:
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Apr 13, 2016 03:29
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I got babby's first 1500 point Forces of Nature list here. Looking to just be full of flavor and not be stupid in avoidable ways.code:
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I can't really speak to the quality of the list, but there's rarely a reason to have leftover points. Grab a lovely 10 point magic item for one of the units. Maybe it will prove useful.
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Apr 13, 2016 06:23
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It's not as bad as Bonesium but it's still somewhat soft. It's good for bigger models since they can be thicker but human sized it tends to lose detail and warp a bit. Mantic sent an email out on 15th January with a link to a webform you could fill out if you had any missing bits from Dungeon Saga. I filled out the form, got an automated response on 16th January and received my missing pieces (some cards and dungeon critters) in the post about two weeks later. I'm in Australia, too. If you haven't received your replacement pieces you should email dave@manticgames.com to follow up on it.
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Apr 13, 2016 07:08
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Reliable store down here in Australia has the 2 player starters, and the starter and mega army sets, all for 30% off right now, in case anyone is interested http://www.thegamingguy.com.au/online-shop/#!/Kings-of-War/c/11364334/offset=0&sort=normal
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Apr 13, 2016 08:03
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NTRabbit posted:Reliable store down here in Australia has the 2 player starters, and the starter and mega army sets, all for 30% off right now, in case anyone is interested Thanks for posting this mate
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Apr 13, 2016 08:17
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No worries, looks like they only have limited stock of the army sets, but it's a 2 day sale, so was always going to be a get in quick thing
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Atlas Hugged posted:Threw together a new 2000 point elf list. Thoughts? Swap the helm of confidence out for a Talisman of Inspiration on the Mage. The Mages Inspiring can then cover multiple units instead of just one. Bane chant AND lightning bolt is probably overkill on the Mage since you'll only be able to use one/turn. The Boomstick probably isn't the best thing to stick on the King - he should either be moving At The Double to get into melee ASAP so can't shoot, or will actually be in melee so can't shoot. I'd either give him a mount for the points to give him the speed boost, or use the points saved from one of the spells on the mage to give the Dragon +1 defence or Regeneration (though your opponents may hate you for that  ).Xlorp posted:I got babby's first 1500 point Forces of Nature list here. Looking to just be full of flavor and not be stupid in avoidable ways. Is that speed on the Beast of Nature the +1 speed artefact? If so I'd think about swapping it onto the Hunters of the Wild. With Speed 7, they can charge enemy units up to 4" behind their deployment line in the first turn. Hunters of the Wild are more than capable of disrupting and shutting down shooting hordes so either your opponent keeps all their shooting units further back (giving you an advantage for scenario objectives) or deploys them close enough for you to shut them down before they get to shoot. Just the threat of a Speed 7 Vanguard unit can play merry havoc with your opponents deployment. I'd drop the Wild Companions from the Green Lady. You can only use one ranged attack per turn and her Heal(8) is so incredibly useful that I can't imagine a situation where I'd use one of the Wild Companions instead. (quick note that the points for Wild Guard go on the Hunters of the Wild, not the Green Lady). Equally drop the Wild Companion or the bow from the Centaur Chief. You want him in combat ASAP, so like Atlas Hugged's King, he'll most likely be moving at the double most turns. He certainly doesn't need both and I'd be more inclined to go with the bow over the Wild Companion myself. For the points saved dropping the Wild Companions, I think I'd personally go with the attacks & vicious upgrade on the Beast of Nature and the Quicksilver Rapier on the Centaur Chief, so he becomes an awesome character smacker. Your Bray-Striders and Beast of Nature can double team a key enemy unit, while the Bray Strider takes out the Inspiring cover/Surge/heal/spell source.
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Daedleh posted:Swap the helm of confidence out for a Talisman of Inspiration on the Mage. The Mages Inspiring can then cover multiple units instead of just one. Bane chant AND lightning bolt is probably overkill on the Mage since you'll only be able to use one/turn. Thanks for the thoughts. My intent with the King was to just have him chill and inspire, which is why I gave him the boomstick. I could swap him for a standard bearer, but I find them to be fairly useless if combat reaches their area of the board. At least with the king he can do double duty. I never considered a regenerating dragon. That sounds fun.
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NTRabbit posted:No worries, looks like they only have limited stock of the army sets, but it's a 2 day sale, so was always going to be a get in quick thing Nah it's perfect, I've had a poo poo of a time tracking down the ogre mega set from local stores or other online stores and I'm getting it discounted when I would have been happy to pay retail
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Big Willy Style posted:Nah it's perfect, I've had a poo poo of a time tracking down the ogre mega set from local stores or other online stores and I'm getting it discounted when I would have been happy to pay retail Good choice, new Ogre bro   Atlas Hugged posted:I never considered a regenerating dragon. That sounds fun.  No it doesn't
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There's some pictures of the Deadzone reboxes up Enforcer starter (Sniper, Engineer and turrets, possibly Captain restic, everything else hard plastic except for metal missile tube)  Enforcer booster (All hard plastic)  Forge Father starter (Brokkrs restic, everything else hard plastic)  Forge Father booster (Steel Warriors hard plastic, everything else restic)    All here but in German
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Did the Deadzone Asterians specialist box ever come out retail? I'm talking about the one with the jet ski, micro done swarms, etc.
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moths posted:Did the Deadzone Asterians specialist box ever come out retail? I'm talking about the one with the jet ski, micro done swarms, etc. The drone swarm was canceled before production, but pretty sure the specialist booster was on sale
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NTRabbit posted:The drone swarm was canceled before production How come?
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Looking forward to these. Any idea when they'll hit retail for those of us who didn't pledge on KS? In my 3 year hiatus a missed a lot of cool non-GW poo poo going down and I'm pissed I missed out 
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Ugleb posted:How come? If memory serves, during the design phase they decided the unit just wasn't working for them, so it was replaced in the booster with another one of the existing Cyphers, don't recall which one richyp posted:Looking forward to these. Any idea when they'll hit retail for those of us who didn't pledge on KS? In my 3 year hiatus a missed a lot of cool non-GW poo poo going down and I'm pissed I missed out Shipping to backers this month, so I'd expect retail end of April, perhaps into May
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Wasn't there also an Asterian model (or a master, even) that was literally lost at sea and unreproducable? Or something like that?
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I feel like that happened to a Lego kit, but I'd love to hear more of that story.
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I might have missed it but is DZ still TLoS? If so that poor jet pack ork is a dead man.
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NTRabbit posted:There's some pictures of the Deadzone reboxes up Certainly looks like the restic captain from the original starter - are you sure the missile launcher guy is metal/plastic hybrid? Looks like the same design as the restic one, though that had serious 'big square bits under the feet' issues, so it'd be nice if they'd redone it.
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muskets posted:Certainly looks like the restic captain from the original starter - are you sure the missile launcher guy is metal/plastic hybrid? Looks like the same design as the restic one, though that had serious 'big square bits under the feet' issues, so it'd be nice if they'd redone it. Metal missiles conversion bits for the new Enforcer sprues were part of either the DZI or Warpath KS, so I'd expect that to be the new one; could be the metal captain, but it's not hard plastic at any rate.
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I'm sure it's the restic one, because Engineer/Missile Dude/Sniper/Sentries/Captain are all bagged together. I think they come from the same mold.
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Is there any word from Mantic on a Dwarf Steel Behemoth model? If not, what have people been using?
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Commissar Canuck posted:Is there any word from Mantic on a Dwarf Steel Behemoth model? If not, what have people been using? One from Mantic is due in May, this is the concept sketch, which is all any of us who aren't Daedleh have seen so far  Otherwise http://vb.manticforum.com/forum/kings-of-war/dwarfs/226577-steel-behemoth-model http://vb.manticforum.com/forum/kings-of-war/dwarfs/8193-steel-behemoth have some suggestions
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It was supposed to come out with the Troll Bruiser and the Wights, but all of the resin companies that they contract to said it would be too large for them to do. They've redone it, and they're getting quotes from resin casters as of Adepticon. Should be out next time there's a splash release.
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The thing I read said it was delayed for a redesign because it was too big to do in metal, but I'd say both are true
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