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hopefully out of a bunch of perl cgi pages
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:but your SME's can customize it to fit their business processes without the help of a developer. departments can leverage shared knowledge to discover new markets and increase loyalty in existing customers. best of all our cloud based SaaS platform minimizes initial capital requirements allowing you to invest in your business not your infrastructure. motherfucker! whoa
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the problem is that there is no way to outsource or subcontract trust as soon as you start taking it out of house you say "well i hope they're secure! then you hire dudes to ensure that the above dudes are secure then you hire dudes to ensure that THOSE dudes are legit then you hire dudes to ensure that everybody below them is cool
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uhh salesforce is far more secure and compliant than some local dynamics crm install janitored by shagger, MCSE
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pram posted:hopefully out of a bunch of perl cgi pages well we started with perl, but then we transitioned to php. it's Apache with MySQL and there's a few scheduled cron jobs for routine maintenance. about half of them are in Python but then there's a few in ruby (one of our contractors didn't know Python) and the rest are shell scripts. also we had to connect to a third party library that is written in Java so we have a virtual machine running tomcat on windows and a json gateway.
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The Management posted:well we started with perl, but then we transitioned to php. it's Apache with MySQL and there's a few scheduled cron jobs for routine maintenance. about half of them are in Python but then there's a few in ruby (one of our contractors didn't know Python) and the rest are shell scripts. also we had to connect to a third party library that is written in Java so we have a virtual machine running tomcat on windows and a json gateway. 2014 infrastructure.txt
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the last company i worked for used ACT! 2005 until switching to salesforce and salesforce was overall way more annoying to use
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something lile 60% of crm implementations because it is universally sold as something that can be easily customized to your specialist of special employees unique snowflake requirements then they just bill bill bill on the principle of the sunk cost fallacy (sulk cost fallacy). they then when it finally fails after you've fired a couple project managers who were saying you're doomed all along. they offer management a bit of money off the outstanding balance in order to sign everyone involved to an nda.
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:something lile 60% of crm implementations because it is universally sold as something that can be easily customized to your specialist of special employees unique snowflake requirements then they just bill bill bill on the principle of the sunk cost fallacy (sulk cost fallacy). they then when it finally fails after you've fired a couple project managers who were saying you're doomed all along. they offer management a bit of money off the outstanding balance in order to sign everyone involved to an nda. laymen that buy salesforce are not skilled enough to grok the templating and custom fields stuff so they have to hire a Dude and then you're no longer saving money and youre deeper in some weird bubble cloud ecosystem
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Jonny 290 posted:laymen that buy salesforce are not skilled enough to grok the templating and custom fields stuff so they have to hire a Dude and then you're no longer saving money and youre deeper in some weird bubble cloud ecosystem it's like sharepoint, but with clouds
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we had great attendance at this years conference! if you want to review our leads, please go here: https://na11.salesforce.com/40130322e00FIpp ive also attached an excel spreadsheet with the same information to this email and have updated sharepoint and the internal wiki with the same
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*immediately goes to wiki*
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it's poo poo.
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Zaxxon posted:it's poo poo. ive done a lot of salesforce-related work but it was always via their json api's so idgaf really, worx4me
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Jonny 290 posted:*immediately goes to wiki* there's a free template for that.
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:but your SME's can customize it to fit their business processes without the help of a developer. get on the supply side of this asap
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qirex posted:this is the future of enterprise software btw, companies will spend millions of dollars and hire tons of outside help in order to not have to hire a single new FTE programmer it's so stupid
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Jonny 290 posted:it's so stupid my old firm outsourced payroll/accounting AND hr also the business development/marketing guys were all on contract, and right when i was leaving they hired a foxy marketing lady for fulltime
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Failsforce. hahaha
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the company I worked for previously had lots of salesforce integrations and they were a salesforce partner they did an in house "what the gently caress is salesforce" for us and it's like this weird java abortion where you take a ton of premade building blocks and beat them into something barely resembling their original counterparts, then you take those ~new and interesting~ bits you made and sell them to other companies that run salesforce you apparently don't need to know how to program to write code for salesforce too, it's ~that easy~. to me it looked like a terrifying cludge, so I stayed the gently caress away and laughed at anyone unfortunate enough to have to integrate it the business model as the sf partner is silly too, you go and do an implementation for a company as a contract thing, and then you leave them hanging after you build it and train them on it. you don't have to support it and you're not supposed to because it Just Works.
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qirex posted:this is the future of enterprise software btw, companies will spend millions of dollars and hire tons of outside help in order to not have to hire a single new FTE programmer I really should, but the idea makes me want to kill myself even more than i already do.
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:sulk cost fallacy sulks gf's username looking good
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salesforce is literally the embodiment of the pipe dream salesman that promises poo poo to clients and then herds nerds back at hq to meet the demand
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Jonny 290 posted:it's so stupid that might be true but I'm currently watching an 8 figure project go to hell because the vendor sold a magical dream where analysts can build software without any developers or designers [oh btw this is not possible without customization work totaling 2x the cost of the original project plus ongoing support and maintanance contracts]
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qirex posted:analysts can build software without any developers or designers [ask] me about supporting a business rule engine ![]()
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Cold on a Cob posted:[ask] me about supporting a business rule engine
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salesforce has some of my favorite drm, in that some types of accounts can only be accessed from a specific ip address, which of course makes total sense for a cloud solution so naturally i've had to configure tons of users to have vpn accounts...to allow them to log into an external website ![]()
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univbee posted:salesforce has some of my favorite drm, in that some types of accounts can only be accessed from a specific ip address, which of course makes total sense for a cloud solution lol
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qirex posted:is it a product with a three letter name sold by a company that also has a three letter name? inrule probably worse than whatever you're referencing
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it made me so happy to get approval to rewrite the business rules in c# and remove all references to that piece of crap from our software
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univbee posted:salesforce has some of my favorite drm, in that some types of accounts can only be accessed from a specific ip address, which of course makes total sense for a cloud solution cool. good thinking
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Cold on a Cob posted:[ask] me about supporting a business rule engine as the person who has sold a business rule engine + pro serve contracts lol you suckers I'm so sorry but maybe you should come to the dark side?
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nothing like selling a pile of garbage for half a million dollars to people that cannot and will never be able to use it
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Squinty Applebottom posted:nothing like selling a pile of garbage for half a million dollars to people that cannot and will never be able to use it wait what, no one pays you to post...
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:wait what, no one pays you to post... oooh, this is awkward. i would talk to lowtax?
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Squinty Applebottom posted:oooh, this is awkward. i would talk to lowtax? i didn't realize you were his ex wife
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my old firm outsourced payroll/accounting AND hr company I am leaving outsourced accounting, hr, compliance, and computer janitation. all to difference companies. I'd log into people soft to fill out pto, go to ceridan for payroll, and call Dell (:tenbux:) a call to get help when the encryption software destroyed my machine. company before that used sap and is in the middle of a three year $500million dollar integration. now I write iPhone apps and am happy.
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Dirk Pitt posted:company I am leaving outsourced accounting, hr, compliance, and computer janitation. all to difference companies. I'd log into people soft to fill out pto, go to ceridan for payroll, and call Dell (:tenbux:) a call to get help when the encryption software destroyed my machine. You actually aren't happy at all.
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Citizen Tayne posted:You actually aren't happy at all. lol
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Citizen Tayne posted:You actually aren't happy at all. quite happy to not be an enterprise developer anymore. ![]()
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